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Landlocked Atlantic or BT??
« on: Jan 03, 2018, 05:02 PM »
Adirondacks Fish. Had a slightly forked tail and no spots on the adipose. Thinking itís just a really colored up salmon.

Let me know what you guys think.








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Re: Landlocked Atlantic or BT??
« Reply #1 on: Jan 03, 2018, 07:01 PM »
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Re: Landlocked Atlantic or BT??
« Reply #2 on: Jan 03, 2018, 08:52 PM »
Looks like a female Brown trout to me. Could be wrong.😜
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Re: Landlocked Atlantic or BT??
« Reply #3 on: Jan 03, 2018, 09:01 PM »
It's a big male brown trout. The jaw bone extends well behind the eye. The shape of tail and adipose fin, and it has a kyped jaw. Everything about it to me says big brown.

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Re: Landlocked Atlantic or BT??
« Reply #4 on: Jan 04, 2018, 08:48 AM »
It's a brown trout.

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Re: Landlocked Atlantic or BT??
« Reply #5 on: Jan 04, 2018, 08:51 AM »
Male Brown
   
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Re: Landlocked Atlantic or BT??
« Reply #6 on: Jan 04, 2018, 09:12 AM »
Landlocked Atlantic Salmon usually have a more slender tail and lacks any spots on the adipose fin.  The sure way to tell is look in the mouth: the salmon's vomerine teeth (on the roof of the mouth) are in a single row; browns have a zig-zag row.

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Re: Landlocked Atlantic or BT??
« Reply #7 on: Jan 05, 2018, 01:21 AM »
Healthy looking Brown Trout.....Nice job !!  :thumbsup:
         

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Re: Landlocked Atlantic or BT??
« Reply #8 on: Jan 05, 2018, 09:10 AM »
Thats a brown trout. Brant Lake or Schroon ?
Adirondacks Fish. Had a slightly forked tail and no spots on the adipose. Thinking itís just a really colored up salmon.

Let me know what you guys think.







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Re: Landlocked Atlantic or BT??
« Reply #9 on: Jan 05, 2018, 12:46 PM »
Looks like a beauty brown.
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Re: Landlocked Atlantic or BT??
« Reply #10 on: Jan 07, 2018, 07:41 PM »
Thatís a salmon

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Re: Landlocked Atlantic or BT??
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Re: Landlocked Atlantic or BT??
« Reply #12 on: Jan 07, 2018, 08:03 PM »
Thats a Brown. Nice one to.

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Re: Landlocked Atlantic or BT??
« Reply #13 on: Jan 07, 2018, 09:35 PM »
I'm still thinking Brown.  It appears to be leaking milt.  I thought browns spawned in the Fall??  Apparently Oct/Nov is normal time for AS also, so no clue there.

No halos on the spots, but the mouth and the peduncle say Brown to me.  Also spots below the lateral line and on the head (thanks FM1).

I didn't know that AS could get that coloration so I've learned something thanks to this thread.

Must not be a rare question.  Here's a nice graphic from NH F&G:



More info: http://www.wildlife.state.nh.us/fishing/salmon-browntrout.html
   
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Re: Landlocked Atlantic or BT??
« Reply #14 on: Jan 07, 2018, 09:50 PM »
Here's a  example of a great lakes Alantic salmon.. I think you cought a brown all the Alantics that I cought have real a black tail..  like in photo and look at the gums.. there different.from like brown, rainbow, coho , king, and etc.. some are white some are black gums and coho hAve 50%of tail covered in spots other half blank were a king will have 100%spots covering the tail.. Alantic have no spots and black steel head have spoons and lots of chrome some times.. 





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Re: Landlocked Atlantic or BT??
« Reply #15 on: Jan 08, 2018, 01:10 PM »
A brown trout. Nice fish!

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Re: Landlocked Atlantic or BT??
« Reply #16 on: Jan 09, 2018, 12:45 PM »
Adirondacks Fish. Had a slightly forked tail and no spots on the adipose. Thinking itís just a really colored up salmon.

Let me know what you guys think.


You are correct it is a colored up male landlocked salmon. This one does show the confusion with a brown, the caudal peduncle is a little meatier which would lean toward a brown, but no spots on the adipose fin = landlocked salmon.

I've caught my share of fall browns and landlocked salmon and the spotting alone lends itself to more of a salmon pattern. I've pick up beautifully "butter" colored salmon before. Even the true ocean run Atlantics can take on lots of red and orange along their sides during the fall. Then again the salmon that come out of Lake Champlain have more of a drab "black" salmon coloration than some of the inland lakes.

The older the salmon get the more square the tail gets like your fish. Yearling salmon have more of a fork.

Unless of course it is a hybrid between the two. The spawning times do overlap and they have been know to hybridize in Europe.






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Re: Landlocked Atlantic or BT??
« Reply #17 on: Jan 09, 2018, 01:35 PM »
Brown - quite a treat on a tip up, I've had them almost spool me thinking it was a big laker.
Congrats, nice fish. 

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Re: Landlocked Atlantic or BT??
« Reply #18 on: Jan 11, 2018, 09:02 PM »
I love these LLS vs BT threads. This one got me excited enough to get off my butt and do my first post of the season.

This is definitely a salmon. Fish Farmer is spot on with everything he said. Adirondack salmon that are sexually mature really don't look anything like a salmon you would catch out of Lake Champlain or another large lake. Although even Champlain salmon will get "browned up" like this when they have been in a trib for a long time. I've caught many Adirondack salmon that look just like this one - especially in the fall. Bottom line, it is a beautiful Adirondack salmon. Great catch!

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Re: Landlocked Atlantic or BT??
« Reply #19 on: Jan 13, 2018, 07:15 PM »
Quite a few wrong answers, LOL. That's a surplus brood salmon from the NYS hatchery in Lake Clear, they stock them every year in a couple small lakes. My guess is Lake Eaton.

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Re: Landlocked Atlantic or BT??
« Reply #20 on: Jan 13, 2018, 07:26 PM »
According to everything used to key out BT vs LLS, this is a Brown Trout.

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Re: Landlocked Atlantic or BT??
« Reply #21 on: Jan 15, 2018, 08:54 PM »
Quite a few wrong answers, LOL. That's a surplus brood salmon from the NYS hatchery in Lake Clear, they stock them every year in a couple small lakes. My guess is Lake Eaton.

I noticed the eroded dorsal and beat up nose, led me to believe it was an old brood fish.

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Re: Landlocked Atlantic or BT??
« Reply #22 on: Jan 15, 2018, 10:16 PM »
Itís a German brown
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Re: Landlocked Atlantic or BT??
« Reply #23 on: Jan 16, 2018, 05:31 AM »
Itís a German brown

Nope New York brown.  ;D
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Re: Landlocked Atlantic or BT??
« Reply #24 on: Jan 17, 2018, 09:21 AM »
Fwiw.... The brood stock from Lake Clear that I have seen have a clipped Adipose fin..The Salmon and Trout often beat their noses against the ice in pursuit of Smelt. My 2 cents

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Re: Landlocked Atlantic or BT??
« Reply #25 on: Jan 17, 2018, 03:53 PM »
trout ! :whistle:

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Re: Landlocked Atlantic or BT??
« Reply #26 on: Feb 15, 2018, 02:33 PM »
Looks like an LLS to me.

Only way to tell for sure is the teeth as mentioned above.

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Re: Landlocked Atlantic or BT??
« Reply #27 on: Feb 20, 2018, 08:47 AM »
LL Salmon all the way , The dead giveaway for me is its love juice still flowing ! ive caught many LLS through the ice and there is always a few males still looking to get lucky durring the winter lol
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Re: Landlocked Atlantic or BT??
« Reply #28 on: Feb 21, 2018, 11:01 PM »
Its a trout👍

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Re: Landlocked Atlantic or BT??
« Reply #29 on: Feb 28, 2018, 02:36 PM »
Brooder salmon.  Backround in picture looks like a lake near me.

 



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