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Re: ONEIDA LAKE DIEHARDS
« Reply #5280 on: Jan 11, 2021, 04:45 AM »

 Hey rippinlips , Iíd check with Vern and mike about getting on at big bay marina , to see if it is safe to get on there , as it is not far from the river
 
 

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Re: ONEIDA LAKE DIEHARDS
« Reply #5281 on: Jan 11, 2021, 05:50 AM »
Hey rippinlips , Iíd check with Vern and mike about getting on at big bay marina , to see if it is safe to get on there , as it is not far from the river

X2 on this. I am not sure if the section around BB Marina stayed froze after the last warm up.

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Re: ONEIDA LAKE DIEHARDS
« Reply #5282 on: Jan 11, 2021, 06:11 AM »
never fished BB dont like crowds, but talking about right of ways got lil knowledge most people land owners dont mind but people getting on the water its when trash and other people that dont respect it ruin it for others
I agree. The ones that donít respect it, ruin it for the ones with respect. Everybody has to do their part to keep things clean!😎

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Re: ONEIDA LAKE DIEHARDS
« Reply #5283 on: Jan 11, 2021, 06:23 AM »
My wife and I are coming up this upcoming weekend  we would like to get on big bay if possible. Could any of you give me a road name or something on where to park to get on BIG bay?
Yes Iíd definitely check with the bait shop again before you head up. Forecast says high of 43 on Thursday and high of 48 on Friday with chance of rain.
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Re: ONEIDA LAKE DIEHARDS
« Reply #5284 on: Jan 11, 2021, 06:26 AM »
Mid 40ís and rain on Friday isnít good. 

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Re: ONEIDA LAKE DIEHARDS
« Reply #5285 on: Jan 11, 2021, 06:45 AM »
Thanks for the help everyone.  I will definitely check in with the bait shop on Friday   This weather sucks

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Re: ONEIDA LAKE DIEHARDS
« Reply #5286 on: Jan 11, 2021, 07:17 AM »
the  big bay access issue  has nothing to  do with trash  it had to do with  the  home owners next to the access  don't like  people going  next to their home  ,it started   years ago they posted the access  they gated the access  the  town opened it up  they  removed   rocks to make the access a  4 foot drop off ....i think  tis  is a law suit in the making  ....i have  personally been attacked (verbally) by the homeowner  for   picking  my  stuff up on the road ...i threw  my  jet sled in the back of my car .....this is a  on going  battle  i hope   all the  people   going out on the  ice  take a  few minutes  to throw  some of the rocks back where they belong ......  we can have the access back tothe way it should be in no time...calling  the town may not be a  bad idea  these people  are not going to stop

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Re: ONEIDA LAKE DIEHARDS
« Reply #5287 on: Jan 11, 2021, 08:05 AM »
Access is always an issue no matter where you go, property owners think they have more rights to the lake than anyone else. The state should look at making better access on Big Bay.  Does anyone have a picture of this rock barrier?

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Re: ONEIDA LAKE DIEHARDS
« Reply #5288 on: Jan 11, 2021, 09:29 AM »
The only problem with that trapper is the guy put mortar in and around the whole wall he built, Iím sure it wouldnít be good if people started ripping it apart!

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Re: ONEIDA LAKE DIEHARDS
« Reply #5289 on: Jan 11, 2021, 09:44 AM »
The only problem with that trapper is the guy put mortar in and around the whole wall he built, Iím sure it wouldnít be good if people started ripping it apart!
you should look into if he got a permit for that work if he did the work without a permit he may be forced to put it back to its original condition before they even removed the rocks in the first place l
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Re: ONEIDA LAKE DIEHARDS
« Reply #5290 on: Jan 11, 2021, 09:51 AM »
where you acces isn't his land that belongs to the down  thats a  drain pie  for the road i'm honestly surprized the town allows his foolishness  someone will get hurt

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Re: ONEIDA LAKE DIEHARDS
« Reply #5291 on: Jan 11, 2021, 10:14 AM »
Only a matter of time before someone is hurt, donít bring a shanty if your alone because u wonít be able to pick it back up by yourself

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Re: ONEIDA LAKE DIEHARDS
« Reply #5292 on: Jan 11, 2021, 10:21 AM »
where you acces isn't his land that belongs to the down  thats a  drain pie  for the road i'm honestly surprized the town allows his foolishness  someone will get hurt
town should definitely be notified that the homeowner has removed riprap from the shoreline that is 100% against the law. And created a unsafe area to access the lake im sure the town would fix it or make them fix it if it could be proven they did it
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Re: ONEIDA LAKE DIEHARDS
« Reply #5293 on: Jan 11, 2021, 10:26 AM »
where you acces isn't his land that belongs to the down  thats a  drain pie  for the road i'm honestly surprized the town allows his foolishness  someone will get hurt

When I talked to him, he boasted that he was a member of some town board and challenged me to verify that the access was private during the summers.  This made no sense to me as again, I knew it was open to the public for ice fishing.  I'm sure what he did was illegal, it's not exactly the same, but it's kind of similar to altering/diverting flow of a water way.

I'm not sure if it's within their power, but my concern is that if enough people complain, the town will most likely just close that access completely.

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Re: ONEIDA LAKE DIEHARDS
« Reply #5294 on: Jan 11, 2021, 10:28 AM »
Trying to keep Big Bay ice fishermen from using that access is like trying to keep squirrels off a bird feeders. 

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Re: ONEIDA LAKE DIEHARDS
« Reply #5295 on: Jan 11, 2021, 10:42 AM »
Access is always an issue no matter where you go, property owners think they have more rights to the lake than anyone else. The state should look at making better access on Big Bay.  Does anyone have a picture of this rock barrier?

Matt - I will get you a pic this week unless someone posts one here first.

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Re: ONEIDA LAKE DIEHARDS
« Reply #5296 on: Jan 11, 2021, 10:45 AM »
i just  again talked to the DEC  ...tax maps  were  brought up  ,tat is  the property of the town of west monroe  you can google earth it ...don't take my word check for yourself so YOU KNOW '  me personally I'm old and  miserable if they bother me I'm going  to record them with my phone  and   report them  for "harassment during a legal activity.  last time they barricaded  the  access and the town came down and  removed it  ,  big thank you to officer brown for his help checking tax maps ,and i don't think it would hurt to call  the town of  west monroe and tell them  what that access looks like  what if someone falls   that is a hell of a law suit

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Re: ONEIDA LAKE DIEHARDS
« Reply #5297 on: Jan 11, 2021, 11:10 AM »
While reviewing the tax map I use, I see the right of way.  It is right between Scott Whittaker's parcel 293.20-02-33 and Donald Weber parcel 307.08-02-03.

If you want to see the right of way, a tax map can be found at https://rptsgisweb.oswegocounty.com/ParcelViewer/.  I use it to look up who owns what. ::) The map can also be useful for tax grievance purposes.

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Re: ONEIDA LAKE DIEHARDS
« Reply #5298 on: Jan 11, 2021, 01:13 PM »
I called and spoke at length about the Big Bay access with the West Monroe Town Clerk. She has referred me over to the Town Assessor. I urge everyone who has a concern with this to do the same. She is very nice and has been thoroughly briefed on the issue. That is a very small office and a couple dozen phone call about the same issue would help ensure a prompt response. Please consider giving them a call.

As far as the wall requiring a permit, the landowner would'nt need one unless the wall was 6' or more. If the wall wasn't built on the owners property, then that is obviously a violation.

The major question is whether or not that 10' easement is a public easement. It may, as I was told, be just for drainage. I can assure you that I will have an answer in the near future. I can also assure you that I will be making a formal complaint about the placement of the new structure as soon as I have all of the facts.

Again, the best way to get a quick response, even if its not the one we're hoping for, is for everyone to do their part. If you want to fish over there and help keep everyone safe, pick up the phone and call the West Monroe Town Clerk (315) 676-3521. Thanks.
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Re: ONEIDA LAKE DIEHARDS
« Reply #5299 on: Jan 11, 2021, 01:19 PM »

The major question is whether or not that 10' easement is a public easement. It may, as I was told, be just for drainage. I can assure you that I will have an answer in the near future. I can also assure you that I will be making a formal complaint about the placement of the new structure as soon as I have all of the facts.

This is spot on. An easement is permission to use property for a specific reason. It is not an ownership documents. Does anyone know of the county clerkís office has online records? Thatís be the easiest way to find out.

Full disclosure, I have never been on Big Bay. Closest Iíve come to doing so has been driving past it on 81

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Re: ONEIDA LAKE DIEHARDS
« Reply #5300 on: Jan 11, 2021, 02:23 PM »

 Speaking of checking tax maps , according to the tax map , the home owner put a wood fence right to the end on west side , of mill street , closing off the access
 

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Re: ONEIDA LAKE DIEHARDS
« Reply #5301 on: Jan 11, 2021, 02:31 PM »
Speaking of checking tax maps , according to the tax map , the home owner put a wood fence right to the end on west side , of mill street , closing off the access

Mill Street in Constantia?

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Re: ONEIDA LAKE DIEHARDS
« Reply #5302 on: Jan 11, 2021, 02:42 PM »
 
Mill Street in Constantia?
Yes only east side has access
 Just look at the tax map
 

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Re: ONEIDA LAKE DIEHARDS
« Reply #5303 on: Jan 11, 2021, 02:44 PM »
Yes behind the Circle K, the guy that bought Pierce's house on the right. There is A fence on the right side now.


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Re: ONEIDA LAKE DIEHARDS
« Reply #5304 on: Jan 11, 2021, 02:49 PM »

 Tim far as I could about 3-4 posts to far ,
 

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Re: ONEIDA LAKE DIEHARDS
« Reply #5305 on: Jan 11, 2021, 02:53 PM »
  Yes only east side has access
 Just look at the tax map

Ah, thanks.  The discussion was on Big Bay so I got confused a bit.  Is the East access still available?  The tax map has the property line extending pretty far South on that side as well.  I remember being able to access both sides of Mill St.

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Re: ONEIDA LAKE DIEHARDS
« Reply #5306 on: Jan 11, 2021, 03:23 PM »
it's  not  a  easement at all the  town of west monroe  owns it it's  part ot the road  a  culv ert that drains that entire area  runs under it...we went threw this about 10 years ago when he built a barricade....setterman thank you for a great post i will can tomorrow

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Re: ONEIDA LAKE DIEHARDS
« Reply #5307 on: Jan 11, 2021, 03:27 PM »
it's  not  a  easement at all the  town of west monroe  owns it it's  part ot the road  a  culv ert that drains that entire area  runs under it...we went threw this about 10 years ago when he built a barricade....setterman thank you for a great post i will can tomorrow

Well thatís a different story all together. If itís town property itís open to the public

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Re: ONEIDA LAKE DIEHARDS
« Reply #5308 on: Jan 11, 2021, 03:35 PM »
active  now your catching on  and the DEC agrees other then now this  guy made a 6 foot cliff you have to climb down to access the ice

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Re: ONEIDA LAKE DIEHARDS
« Reply #5309 on: Jan 11, 2021, 03:37 PM »
I was just going off the information above. Thereís no listed owner on that parcel on the huntin app I use. Can see both neighboring properties owners but that sliver up for debate has no information.

And like I said early never fished big bay or any part of the lake, just trying to add value. Someday Iíll fish Oneida. Someday...

 



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