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Re: Marcum Lithium Shuttle released
« Reply #20 on: Sep 11, 2017, 09:28 AM »


Best one I found. If regular SLA charger is used battery cannot reach full potential.

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Re: Marcum Lithium Shuttle released
« Reply #21 on: Sep 11, 2017, 10:02 AM »
looking forward to using my new shuttle. a milk create seems a little bulky to hole hop for me. thanks tho.
i do use and enjoy garmin products and their newest sonar line up looks promising for other sonar manufactures to incorporate. i do watch them as the progress with time.

specs on hays charger
https://www.amazon.com/Tenergy-14-6V-LiFePO4-Battery-Charger/dp/B008RPGU5E

 Intelligent charger designed for 4 cell LiFePO4 battery packs.
CPU control and pulse width modulation (PWM) technology, charging current and output voltage is controlled accurately to ensure fully-charged and avoid over-charging.
Built-in cooling fan to ensure charger long service life.
Safety protection: Over Voltage Protection, Short Circuit Protection, Output Reverse Protection
Built-in IC to cut-off power automatically when battery is fully charged.

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Re: Marcum Lithium Shuttle released
« Reply #22 on: Sep 11, 2017, 02:45 PM »
As a fellow hole hopper I understand your concern. But the main mission is to locate and catch fish. Covering a 200' diameter of any given area with just one hole. Helps to eliminate the reason to move continually. Not only that the panoptix tells which direction to move and how far. The Lake Vu Ultra map chip with hotspots also is a big help.

Just applying what I used in open water fishing onto the hard stuff. It is bulky but really light. Thanks to the Lifepo4 batteries. If it works the way it does on open water. The need to move to keep on the fish will be much faster and easier. Most guys carry something to mount their fish finder on anyways. To prevent bending on knees to see the display like the " experts" in the videos do. Just too darn old to do that anymore.

To me the increase of info is worth the bulk. To others it may not.

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Re: Marcum Lithium Shuttle released
« Reply #23 on: Sep 12, 2017, 08:24 AM »
the shuttle idea is cool, but I like to keep my electronics protected in a case, the LX7/9 soft case is fine with a little modding of the strap.  How long before we see the first post of a opened Marcum bucket with a LX6/7/9 in pieces after a long run on the lake?

I would have really liked to see them build this shuttle that replaces the one in the existing soft pack..

for those who buy a new brushless M series or a new LX combo, the added shuttle price is only $150

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Re: Marcum Lithium Shuttle released
« Reply #24 on: Sep 12, 2017, 09:16 AM »
Agree with you.  I would rather have a carryable soft case than a bucket.  Don't understand why they did not provide both.

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Re: Marcum Lithium Shuttle released
« Reply #25 on: Sep 12, 2017, 10:22 AM »
Agree with you.  I would rather have a carryable soft case than a bucket.  Don't understand why they did not provide both.
because it looks like they tried to balance the shuttle better by removing the front platter to rest your transducer on when not in use. now it lays upside down in the rear of the unit next to two rod holders. kind of hard to do this with a casing around it all.
it is water tight enough for ice fishing. i wouldn't go scuba diving with it.

it also now has an adjustable angle carry handle and adjustable height. the soft side carry case would hinder this too.

i know i won't be using the bucket that came with it. there isn't much you can hurt on the unit with leads not being in the open/exposed energy and the rain/snow shield on the display. there is a warranty on it all if any thing goes wrong anyway. if some thing does go wrong, we always have the original shuttle to use while the new one gets repaired.

i think marcum was listening to the complaints of those who use buckets (must have had many of them) and couldn't get their lx6 to fit one, so they changed the shuttle they used to use (the lx6 used to use the lx7 shuttle) and switched to the lx5 shuttle. they gave the lx6 a different name after that so you would know which shuttle you were buying.
this new shuttle should become popular for more than just marcum brand because it does fit a bucket. at least that had been the complaint prior to the shuttle change on the lx6 and now this shuttle comes in a bucket so people know it fits one.

i know there is not many photos for people to check it out, so here are some of mine i took for you.







here you can see the slots built in for water draing for those who might still use a float system. under the handle is a tray for that with a drain slot that dumps into the rod holder that then drains out of the back. you can also see the handle slots that allow you to extend the handle up or down. the right pocket is the transducer stand and there are three hooks to weave the transducer cable around on the bottom and next to the stand.






one could use the battery charge port as a power tap in this lower picture.







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Re: Marcum Lithium Shuttle released
« Reply #26 on: Sep 12, 2017, 12:40 PM »
i'll wait to see real world run times and how it holds up after a season, I like the idea, just wish it offered more protection for my $1,300 LX9

For those looking to use a LX-9 with it, you could easily buy some spare female snap connectors and attach them to the carry handle for the camera bag..

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Re: Marcum Lithium Shuttle released
« Reply #27 on: Sep 30, 2017, 12:21 PM »
quick review video...
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Re: Marcum Lithium Shuttle released
« Reply #28 on: Oct 01, 2017, 11:21 AM »
wish they would make one similar for the showdown
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Re: Marcum Lithium Shuttle released
« Reply #29 on: Oct 01, 2017, 07:21 PM »
you should be able to mount your showdown onto the gimbal mount platform area. it is hollow underneath where the 4 pre-drilled holes are. you can see it is hollow looking at the third photo you can see the white plastic of the buckets lid thru the holes that are pre-drilled. seems like the showdown i had for a very short time (shipped with a damaged gimbal) had a tiny square foot print/mount that should fit easily.

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Re: Marcum Lithium Shuttle released
« Reply #30 on: Oct 13, 2017, 01:49 PM »
i found where to get the replacement 12 volt 12 amp hour battery for when you need a new one. you only get so many chargers before needing to replace them. they are 130$ if you want to do the work or 140$ if you want them to install it.
the charger, should it burn out some day or get lost, is 40$

here is the link for the battery:
https://shop.marcumtech.com/product/lithium-shuttle-battery-replacement/

per item costs are:
battery is 130$
charger is 40$
shuttle is 68.49$ when using the 10% discount code.
that's 170$ with out the shuttle.
buying the combo means a free shuttle. you only pay for the battery and charger.


 

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Re: Marcum Lithium Shuttle released
« Reply #31 on: Oct 14, 2017, 01:12 PM »
how hard would they be to change during a trip on the ice do you think?
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Re: Marcum Lithium Shuttle released
« Reply #32 on: Oct 14, 2017, 04:18 PM »
it is rated for up to 40 hours and you can charge it in your vehicle or a/c outlet, but if you had to change it, it has 17 screws under it holding the bottom plate on.


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Re: Marcum Lithium Shuttle released
« Reply #33 on: Oct 14, 2017, 06:12 PM »
Thanks 3300. I will be interested to see how long it lasts with an lx7 or 9 at 50% backlight. Big difference in run times on a flasher versus an 8" Lx screen.
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Re: Marcum Lithium Shuttle released
« Reply #34 on: Oct 14, 2017, 06:25 PM »
i could turn it on and just let it run to find out if you want to know. i might have to aim a security camera onto it in case i'm not watching it when it dies.

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Re: Marcum Lithium Shuttle released
« Reply #35 on: Oct 14, 2017, 06:42 PM »
i could turn it on and just let it run to find out if you want to know. i might have to aim a security camera onto it in case i'm not watching it when it dies.
I wouldn't turn down the offer. If you do, could you put the ducer in some water and run it as well. You have a 9 right? 50% back light and I use the night mode on the settings. If you get 30 hours or more, I may have to pick up a couple of shuttles. Thanks! :bow:
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Re: Marcum Lithium Shuttle released
« Reply #36 on: Oct 14, 2017, 07:39 PM »
working on charging to 100% first. yep, it's a 9. why would you want the transducer in water?
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test one:
started at 1am on 10/15/17
50% back light.
demo mode.
first charge on the battery.

update 2:
12 hours in and the battery indicator says 57% remaining.

update 3:
it shut down and had 15% battery left at 9pm.
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i know your not supposed to run this type of battery down to zero voltage, so some thing told it to quit before then. it should be a bms circuit preventing damage from over discharge.

so it had a 20 hour continuous run time with the 50% back light and in demo mode.
(end of test one)

i don't run mine that bright and only use it on 10% near sunset and it stays at 10% for the rest of the time on ice.
being marcum said up to 40 hours, it must mean with the digital screens set to a minimum and the lx6 would be a smaller screen to draw less energy. their claim maybe for their mechanical flashers and not their digital sonars. flashers go a long time on a single charge with sla batteries.

i'll probably run another test with it on 10% back light next. back lights are what kill our phones and tablets batteries the most.
the battery is on the charger again.
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test 2:
started @ 10am on10/16/17.
not in demo mode.
ice mode.
12 sensitivity.
20 degree cone angle.
0 target separation.
0 ir.
10% back light.

update on test 2:
12 hours in.
73% battery remaining.

update 2 on test 2:
24 hours in.
44% battery remaining.
so it's used 29% to run 12 hours non stop usage on this phase.

final update:
29 hours in and the unit shut off.
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so it gained another 9 hours turning the back light down to 10% from 50%. yet another test might prove that turning the back light up to 100% would loose 9 hours from the 20 hour 50% back light test.
it's not the claimed 40 hours marcum said it can get up to, so i suspect that claim to be for their older tech, that uses less energy like their mechanical flashers.

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Re: Marcum Lithium Shuttle released
« Reply #37 on: Oct 14, 2017, 08:27 PM »
 Probably doesnt need to be in water. Just as long as it is in use, because I assume a lot of your battery power is directed to it. For some reason I have always been uncomfortable running my ducer too much out of the water. Probably just a little superstitious And shows my lack of understanding of how they really work on the inside.
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Re: Marcum Lithium Shuttle released
« Reply #38 on: Oct 15, 2017, 07:11 AM »
I built a Lithium Ion battery pack for my unit last season. I used 4x LG HG2 3000mAh 18650. I was able to get all four for about 30$ on amazon. The battery pack fits into a small waterproof box. The whole thing fits perfect in a hard-side 6x8 cooler. Weighs about 2lbs, about half the weight of a lead acid battery. Have had it on for over 8hrs without it dying.





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Re: Marcum Lithium Shuttle released
« Reply #39 on: Oct 15, 2017, 07:24 AM »
Nice work! Please tell us about your light as well!
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