Author Topic: How many motors have you replaced in your flasher?  (Read 2268 times)

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How many motors have you replaced in your flasher?
« on: Feb 10, 2017, 04:19 PM »
I've had to send my flasher in 3 out of the last 4 years for motor replacement.  I think i use it about 60-80 hrs per year and like to think I take pretty good care of it.  Is motor replacement normal?  Company's service is great, but I always loose some time on the ice(because now I'm too spoiled to fish without it).  Should I switch brands, switch to digital, or get a backup unit?

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Re: How many motors have you replaced in your flasher?
« Reply #1 on: Feb 10, 2017, 04:22 PM »
I have run a fl12 for 15+ years and have never replaced the motor or anything except battery for that matter on my unit. i would say you have issues somewhere else in the unit or battery that is causing the problem of burning up the motor

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Re: How many motors have you replaced in your flasher?
« Reply #2 on: Feb 10, 2017, 05:10 PM »

  Should I switch brands, switch to digital, or get a backup unit?


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Some brands allow inspection/reading of the operators manual online and maybe even an online demo for download to adjust/play with.    ;)2
      

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Re: How many motors have you replaced in your flasher?
« Reply #3 on: Feb 10, 2017, 06:06 PM »
What is the brand that you are having issues with?

I went to a graph readout and I love it.    Hell  just having the flasher vertical is great .  The circle flasher just seems funny to me now.

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Re: How many motors have you replaced in your flasher?
« Reply #4 on: Feb 10, 2017, 07:37 PM »
Both my Vexilars have never needed a motor replaced.
I use mine as much as you do if not more and have for over 10 years without a motor needing replaced.
I did have a transducer go bad but I think the operator (13 year old)was a bit hard on it when moving it out of the hole with it a fish.
Other than that just had to replace batteries a time or two.
You've definitely got a problem somewhere.
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Re: How many motors have you replaced in your flasher?
« Reply #5 on: Feb 11, 2017, 06:36 PM »
ive replaced the motors in my Marcum vx1pro and lx3tc neither one was a year old.bro in law had his replaced once also in a year.ive heard guys have to have Marcum motors changed every year.my vexilars keep on going.i sold every Marcum unit I had with new motors and warranty card.

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Re: How many motors have you replaced in your flasher?
« Reply #6 on: Feb 11, 2017, 09:51 PM »
my hb ice-55 needed a new motor. i took a look at before i sent it in. they look like toy motors and nothing like you would expect it to be, that's for sure. 180$ plus shipping for a new one.

just go digital and no more motors!

that's in part why i bought a marcum lx-9! too many other great features to not go digital. in the past we didn't have a choice. glad those days have come and gone.

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Re: How many motors have you replaced in your flasher?
« Reply #7 on: Feb 12, 2017, 08:41 AM »
Had to put 3 in an FL8. The original did last for a number of years and then they started to crap out yearly.  Went with an FLX28 and it just never worked the way I felt it should.  Went digital after that and haven't looked back. 

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Re: How many motors have you replaced in your flasher?
« Reply #8 on: Feb 12, 2017, 08:44 AM »
I've had my vexilar fl- for 12 years. The only thing I had to replace is the battery.
 
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Re: How many motors have you replaced in your flasher?
« Reply #9 on: Feb 12, 2017, 01:57 PM »
I've had to send my flasher in 3 out of the last 4 years for motor replacement.  I think i use it about 60-80 hrs per year and like to think I take pretty good care of it.  Is motor replacement normal?  Company's service is great, but I always loose some time on the ice(because now I'm too spoiled to fish without it).  Should I switch brands, switch to digital, or get a backup unit?
Do you carry it around when it is running? 

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Re: How many motors have you replaced in your flasher?
« Reply #10 on: Feb 12, 2017, 06:09 PM »
Yes I do.  Hole hopping.

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Re: How many motors have you replaced in your flasher?
« Reply #11 on: Feb 13, 2017, 08:51 AM »
Never replaced any motors in my FL8. I did buy a brush replacement kit that I've still never needed.
If I had even one needing a motor replacement I'd switch brands and never look back.

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Re: How many motors have you replaced in your flasher?
« Reply #12 on: Feb 13, 2017, 07:37 PM »
Yes I do.  Hole hopping.
I used to do that too with my 55, until the motor burned out the second year I had it.  The repair facility told me to not carry it around with it running, as that is what probably caused the problem.  I compromised and now carefully carry the unit from hole to hole in an upright position, trying not to jiggle it.  I have not had a problem in the 5-6 years I used it after the repair.

I have since went to using my portable Lowrance HTS-5 graph, really prefer running it over the flasher units.

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Re: How many motors have you replaced in your flasher?
« Reply #13 on: Feb 27, 2017, 06:57 PM »
Are there any Vexilars made that do not have motors which could burn out? 

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Re: How many motors have you replaced in your flasher?
« Reply #14 on: Feb 28, 2017, 08:46 AM »
from all of the vexilar fans responses, that would be a BIG no.

too bad vex chooses to live in the past with mechanical technology like that.

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Re: How many motors have you replaced in your flasher?
« Reply #15 on: Feb 28, 2017, 08:49 AM »
from all of the vexilar fans responses, that would be a BIG no.

too bad vex chooses to live in the past with mechanical technology like that.

And yet have none of the issues MarCum users are constantly on here and on icejunkies complaining about. 

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Re: How many motors have you replaced in your flasher?
« Reply #16 on: Feb 28, 2017, 09:07 AM »
What about the brushes?  On the Vexilar website they show the repair guy talking that they wear out over several years depending on its use.

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Re: How many motors have you replaced in your flasher?
« Reply #17 on: Feb 28, 2017, 09:28 AM »
you are right! brushes are like pencils, the more you use them the more they wear down. even car starters loose their brushes and that's why you have to replace them.

they are just graphite block contacts with springs pushing them into the commutator ring. the spring gets weaker as the brush gets shorter.

the other aspect of this is the splits in that commutator fills with the graphite and graphite is a conductor. meaning it carry's electricity. these split are supposed to be left open for the commutator to function correctly. so by replacing brushes that have deposited into those splits/voids they now carry electricity too and leave an impact on the motors performance.

i rebuilt plenty of dc motors and you have to under cut these splits so this isn't occurring any longer when you replace brushes. your also supposed to check the armature while it is broken down with an armature checker. and then you have the bearings to deal with too.

the brushes also leave their imprints onto the commutator that can not be relieved in any way, thus wearing it down as the brushes rub against it. sooner or later you will have a motor malfunction.

it's a real shame with the followers they have to not move forward into the digital age most of us live in.

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Re: How many motors have you replaced in your flasher?
« Reply #18 on: Feb 28, 2017, 09:35 AM »
And yet have none of the issues MarCum users are constantly on here and on icejunkies complaining about.
they can't have the same issues. they are not the same technology. each have their own issues.

icejunkies only has 193 posts ever. and their are no complaints about marcum there.
http://www.icejunkiesoutdoors.com/forumfor-sale-or-traderecipes.html

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Re: How many motors have you replaced in your flasher?
« Reply #19 on: Feb 28, 2017, 09:46 AM »
they can't have the same issues. they are not the same technology. each have their own issues.

icejunkies only has 193 posts ever.
http://www.icejunkiesoutdoors.com/forumfor-sale-or-traderecipes.html

Im talking about the icejunkies group on facebook, mostly midwestern guys, and they all seem to have issues with MarCum too.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/195143467342989/permalink/646757935514871/?comment_id=647047012152630&notif_t=group_comment_reply&notif_id=1488220776310679

 


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