I bought a ten inch when I had heck getting a walleye just shy of 10lbs to turn his head into an 8 inch hole. I was fishing perch with a #6 aberdeen, what a blast! I left the gaff with the rest of the crew when I went exploring, won't do that again. Of course when they came over to see what the commotion was about I heard "what, no perch?". Gotta love ice humor. I have heard the trout on Canyon Ferry will sometimes turn and go back down in a 10 inch hole. Something to think about.