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Offline RallyGreen

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Re: Question for folks with the k drill
« Reply #30 on: Nov 06, 2018, 07:57 AM »
And they cut over 3' repeatedly too, right? Look, the whole reason I posted an update was to clarify the scope of the thing I initially asked about (which honestly, I thought was a very straightforward question of "does it act in this manner or that manner"). So I updated to say "It removes even more shavings configured as the original kluge auger was","yes, it can be used for deep ice" and "yes, I'd say its probably worth it." Because there is a lot of discussion about comparatively thin ice but litttle about 36" and more. The kdrill is a good bit for either condition, contingent upon setting it up the way that its inventor designed it for.

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Re: Question for folks with the k drill
« Reply #31 on: Nov 06, 2018, 08:15 AM »
My apologies, I didnít see the 2 year gap between posts and that the same person that asked the original question did some custom work and answered their own question.   Herein lies the problem of posts that are year(s) old.  The update is great but at that point would be good to just lock the thread, as people will continue to debate the original question unnecessarily. 

The K drill will work fine no matter the thickness of the ice, just clear the shavings your golden.  With enough extensions you can go to China with the thing.  LOL   


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Re: Question for folks with the k drill
« Reply #32 on: Nov 06, 2018, 08:19 AM »
Thank god for you, haha. You get it! I only updated the thread so that the info would all be in one place if someone ever searches for this stuff, is all

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Re: Question for folks with the k drill
« Reply #33 on: Nov 06, 2018, 08:33 AM »
I wish more people would follow up with their updates!  Thanks




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Re: Question for folks with the k drill
« Reply #34 on: Nov 06, 2018, 02:47 PM »
Oh internet, I wear sadness as a blanket.
Thank you for this it will become one of my favorite sayings. I myself did not pay attention to the post date on the first post. After reading all the posts I am now going to find a young nephew to take ice fishing and stick with my propane auger. Thanks for saving me $500.00 on a new electric kdrill setup!
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Re: Question for folks with the k drill
« Reply #35 on: Nov 06, 2018, 05:23 PM »
 i read it all, understand rally...the rest of you made my head hurt  ;D

 i hate my k-drill, only use it when i don't want to move my permy.  any other situation and i'll take a mora or finbore all day, every day.

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Re: Question for folks with the k drill
« Reply #36 on: Nov 06, 2018, 05:49 PM »
i read it all, understand rally...the rest of you made my head hurt  ;D

 i hate my k-drill, only use it when i don't want to move my permy.  any other situation and i'll take a mora or finbore all day, every day.

What size? Wanna sell it? I kinda want to try one, but refuse to pay the prices k drill wants. With the Eskimo pistol, and the new HT auger, I look for these light weight drill augers to drop in price pretty soon.

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Re: Question for folks with the k drill
« Reply #37 on: Nov 06, 2018, 06:25 PM »
 i do but i'd want close to what i paid for it new, then there's the shipping hassle.  it is light weight and cuts old holes well but for the price i was hoping it would be my bit of choice all season.  i don't like having to put pressure on any auger let alone one i'm running with my m18 and it also really chews through the batteries compared to the mora or fb3.

 as far as clearing shavings i can't comment cause i don't use it enough.

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Re: Question for folks with the k drill
« Reply #38 on: Nov 06, 2018, 07:20 PM »
K Drill really holds there prices used maybe 25-50 bucks off a used one around here anyway.

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Re: Question for folks with the k drill
« Reply #39 on: Nov 06, 2018, 08:16 PM »
Haha, appreciate it folks. I've seen so many neat things built here that I wanted to contribute. It's not that I'm even suggesting anyone ought to build the same auger as I did; it's just a neat project that ticks some specific boxes that I figured would make my ideal auger. There are a few books and research papers on ice augers and ice drilling that I collected doing this, and I'm confident my ideal setup would have continuous double flighting. Eventually I will pick up a 3d printer and see about making my own flyte sections (and that will be a new thread).


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Re: Question for folks with the k drill
« Reply #40 on: Nov 06, 2018, 08:50 PM »
Is it just the pictures or did the kdrill flights change some since this thread started  ;)
I haven't been to the store to look but internet pics look more like a traditional screw with just a few gaps in it now?

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Re: Question for folks with the k drill
« Reply #41 on: Nov 06, 2018, 08:55 PM »
Your eyes do not decieve you - most often the 6" model is photographed, which has close to continuous flyting. They are installed 90 degrees to one another. The 8" model has the flytes oriented 180 degrees to one another, which is what made me go "hmm" because the patent image is exactly like the 6", not the 8". I guessed that the manufacturer did that to make it less effective and removing shavings to reduce mess. There is a video of a coupke guys trying a 8" kdrill on lake Winnipeg and if you pause it, you'll see that they also disassembled their drill and reoriented it to be like the 6" model, so I am surely not the first to do that.

Here is what the sections of the 8" looks like out of the box



And here is how the 6" looks (what I changed mine to)




Its just every other section rotated 90 degrees - it all lines up perfectly

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Re: Question for folks with the k drill
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Re: Question for folks with the k drill
« Reply #43 on: Nov 06, 2018, 08:58 PM »
Thanks I was looking for an 8" to :(

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Re: Question for folks with the k drill
« Reply #44 on: Nov 06, 2018, 09:01 PM »
I just added some photos I took. The top one you posted is a 8" but the bottom is a 6".

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Re: Question for folks with the k drill
« Reply #45 on: Nov 06, 2018, 09:10 PM »
This is more work than drilling holes trying to figure out the best bit for my new rigid and 9ah drill ;D
Any suggestions  ???

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Re: Question for folks with the k drill
« Reply #46 on: Nov 06, 2018, 09:30 PM »
Personally, I would get whichever size makes sense for the fish you target and get an extra battery if runtime becomes an issue

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Re: Question for folks with the k drill
« Reply #47 on: Nov 07, 2018, 06:47 AM »
I bought an 8 inch k-drill with a Milwaukee power drill, 9ah battery last season.  I love it.  I can drill 20+ holes in 18" plus ice with no problems.  They tell you pull the drill up a few times to clean out the ice shavings or else the blades might bind but that's no problem.  Used it a lot last season and as the the end of season the blades seemed to be still sharp.

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Re: Question for folks with the k drill
« Reply #48 on: Nov 07, 2018, 07:14 AM »
This is more work than drilling holes trying to figure out the best bit for my new rigid and 9ah drill ;D
Any suggestions  ???
I use both a Nils 8" and a Finebore 6".  I really like the Finbore products, they are good quality.  Nils is really nice but a bit of a pain to ship the head away for sharpening.
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Re: Question for folks with the k drill
« Reply #49 on: Nov 07, 2018, 02:39 PM »
Rallygreen, any idea what you have tied up in this , moneywise? wire

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Re: Question for folks with the k drill
« Reply #50 on: Nov 07, 2018, 06:02 PM »
I had to think on that a bit, because I did a total restoration of the echo drill to make it pretty. I'd say no more than 500 all in. What really helped was starting out with a rough looking drill that had good compression and gearbox for 40 bucks. One of those situations that gets me thinking "why not...?"
 
From what I rembering seeing on an archived KECO website, the kluge drill (basically same setup but with the factory one arm bandit grip) was 1100

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Re: Question for folks with the k drill
« Reply #51 on: Nov 07, 2018, 06:12 PM »
One of those situations that gets me thinking "why not...?"

 that's how our great country was founded!

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Re: Question for folks with the k drill
« Reply #52 on: Nov 07, 2018, 06:35 PM »
i do but i'd want close to what i paid for it new, then there's the shipping hassle.  it is light weight and cuts old holes well but for the price i was hoping it would be my bit of choice all season.  i don't like having to put pressure on any auger let alone one i'm running with my m18 and it also really chews through the batteries compared to the mora or fb3.

 as far as clearing shavings i can't comment cause i don't use it enough.

I get ya. I've been happy with my nils 8in. However, I got it for $125 shipped from cabelas a few years ago. just was wanting to play with the K Drill if I'd come across a cheap used one.

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Re: Question for folks with the k drill
« Reply #53 on: Nov 08, 2018, 01:01 PM »
This is more work than drilling holes trying to figure out the best bit for my new rigid and 9ah drill ;D
Any suggestions  ???

Do what I did, get both the 6" and 8"!
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Re: Question for folks with the k drill
« Reply #54 on: Nov 09, 2018, 05:49 AM »
that's how our great country was founded!
ran7ger, i thought that was OUR line. so from now on, i,m gonna say, "eh"? lol wire

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Re: Question for folks with the k drill
« Reply #55 on: Nov 09, 2018, 07:39 PM »
i do but i'd want close to what i paid for it new, then there's the shipping hassle.  it is light weight and cuts old holes well but for the price i was hoping it would be my bit of choice all season.  i don't like having to put pressure on any auger let alone one i'm running with my m18 and it also really chews through the batteries compared to the mora or fb3
 as far as clearing shavings i can't comment cause i don't use it enough.

Ran7ger...Why do you have to put pressure on your k-drill? Never had to do that with mine...it chews and pulls itself through the ice on it's own with no pressure applied at all.
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Re: Question for folks with the k drill
« Reply #56 on: Nov 09, 2018, 08:56 PM »
His blades are dull.   Sharpen them and he will not have to use pressure

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Re: Question for folks with the k drill
« Reply #57 on: Nov 09, 2018, 09:08 PM »
I have tried a second pair of blades and even shimmed them with some leftover 0.0030" shims and then tried some beer can tabs to see if the steeper cutting angle would help. It didn't, really. It was maybe 1 less second through 30" vs stock. I think it comes down to if you are comparing them to dual shaver blades which generate a bunch of torque or other chippers. It's a very slight amount of pressure that mine needs to really move.

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Re: Question for folks with the k drill
« Reply #58 on: Nov 11, 2018, 11:00 AM »
His blades are dull.   Sharpen them and he will not have to use pressure

 is that right?  when were you checking my auger out?  ::) blades are brand new, had a spare set also new - same results.  all i know is my mora and fb3 pull the auger into the ice, k-drill needs some down pressure or i'd be drilling all day to get through 3 feet of ice.

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Re: Question for folks with the k drill
« Reply #59 on: Nov 12, 2018, 08:07 AM »
Yep, agree, as with my Jiffy, the chipper blade augers need a little down pressure. No big deal. My blades are razor sharp too.
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