I got two of em from reeds the combos and I used em deadsticking minnows for crappies they were awesome. the tip was light that it would quiver with the minnow action but the rod stays stiff enough to ensure a solid hook set on what ever happens to hit and at I think I paid 40 bucks each for the combo with the frabil bro reels I cant complain like them alot and hopefully if we get ice here in ny anytime soon I will be able to put them to use again.