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Re: Great Sacandaga Lake (BS)
« Reply #690 on: Mar 05, 2018, 08:17 AM »
Did you go to the weigh in? Any big fish caught....h2l
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Re: Great Sacandaga Lake (BS)
« Reply #691 on: Mar 05, 2018, 07:35 PM »
Did you go to the weigh in? Any big fish caught....h2l

I was #2 on the board all of Sat. with a tiny pike (only 29 & 1/4") until the boys came in for the roast pig dinner. Then the board loaded up with 44+" pike. I couldn't hear too good during the awards, I don't thing there were any in the 50's", smallest was 10" bigger than mine. Largest trout was 14.5". Other than that, I just couldn't hear. Since it was my first keeper pike on this lake & my first ever entered in the contest, I got a gift certificate. Lou is a great guy. Attendance was way down this year due to the poor ice.

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Re: Great Sacandaga Lake (BS)
« Reply #692 on: Mar 06, 2018, 05:14 AM »
Pike:
46 3/4
41 3/4
41 1/2
41 1/4
40 3/4
39

Walleye:
25 3/4
24 1/2
23 1/4
21 1/2
20 7/8
20 3/4

Next year 36" and under pike are to be let go and not entered.

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Re: Great Sacandaga Lake (BS)
« Reply #693 on: Mar 06, 2018, 05:20 AM »
Our day was interesting to say the least.  At 5:30am on Saturday we were up to our knees in water 5 ft off shore on the broadalbin side.  Decided to turn around load up and went off wally's beach.  I found blazing my own trail down the beach a ways proved successful as many machines went in the drink.  We pulled a brand new Honda Pioneer 1000 out with two of our four wheelers and then a sled over by grandview.  To the people that set up in my lone blazed trail i'm sorry you got wet everytime i drove by, but i didn't make the trail for you and I wasn't slowing down.

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Re: Great Sacandaga Lake (BS)
« Reply #694 on: Mar 06, 2018, 06:22 AM »
I have asked for a same thing for the walleyes. Nothing under 20 inches to be brought in. In years past when there is good ice and big turn out, I couldn't believe the small walleyes that people were bringing in. Some years this contest can do more harm to the lake than the WC. I am glad he changed the rules on the pike for next year; it is a start....h2l
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Re: Great Sacandaga Lake (BS)
« Reply #695 on: Mar 06, 2018, 06:31 AM »
Pike:
46 3/4
41 3/4
41 1/2
41 1/4
40 3/4
39

Walleye:
25 3/4
24 1/2
23 1/4
21 1/2
20 7/8
20 3/4

Next year 36" and under pike are to be let go and not entered.


Some girl came out of Wally's and told me that that was in effect already, but Lou took it form me, measured it, put it on the board and gave me the gift certificate.

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Re: Great Sacandaga Lake (BS)
« Reply #696 on: Mar 06, 2018, 05:59 PM »
I think they implemented it once a few decent ones were entered.

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Re: Great Sacandaga Lake (BS)
« Reply #697 on: Mar 08, 2018, 04:37 AM »
I know part of the excitement is running over to enter your fish but personally I like it when the tournament has a phone line you can check the smallest size on the board and throw back anything short....

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Re: Great Sacandaga Lake (BS)
« Reply #698 on: Mar 08, 2018, 06:25 AM »
Honestly with the results every year for what it takes to be top 3 for pike in the Sacandaga tournament, it would be nice to see that all fish 40” and under can not be entered/ released. SacandAga is far from a “trophy” lake, with the exception of the big pike population... start taking away that big pike population, and then what is sacandaga good for besides a boat load of short walleye?

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Re: Great Sacandaga Lake (BS)
« Reply #699 on: Mar 08, 2018, 09:49 AM »
With the popularity of ice fishing some of the smaller ponds and lakes are taking a big hit to the fishery. Mayfield, Mountian, West all show the results of over fishing. Establishing "minimum lengths" on fish in a tournament is a huge start and I like the live fish weigh in option too. For lakes that are not very fertile like the GSL catch and release tournaments like the Walleye Challenge help the fish out a lot. However,  BASS has proved that not all fish released make it, but its better than harvesting all fish regardless of size. Then again, walleye are one of the best to eat so hopefully all legal fish caught made it to the dinner table. Managing fisheries is tough but by setting standards for minimum fish size in derbies can help.

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Re: Great Sacandaga Lake (BS)
« Reply #700 on: Mar 08, 2018, 09:59 AM »
They really need to change ny state regulations . Other states have much stricter regulation and much better fishing. They need cut down the lines allowed to 2-3 lines max

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Re: Great Sacandaga Lake (BS)
« Reply #701 on: Mar 08, 2018, 10:37 AM »
start taking away that big pike population, and then what is sacandaga good for besides a boat load of short walleye?

maybe those walleye will become trophy size with less pike ..... seems to work that way on the st Lawrence river ... just a thought ....
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Re: Great Sacandaga Lake (BS)
« Reply #702 on: Mar 08, 2018, 11:27 AM »
I keep a boat on the Gsl in the summer I can’t mmonster eyes off the dock every weekend when the sun goes down right at my boat slip.( also a lot of smaller 12 14 inch fish. ). I’ve ice fished the lake a bunch of times and only came up with pile and a couple dinky eyes. Not sure what’s up with that.

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Re: Great Sacandaga Lake (BS)
« Reply #703 on: Mar 08, 2018, 01:47 PM »
maybe those walleye will become trophy size with less pike ..... seems to work that way on the st Lawrence river ... just a thought ....


ehhh I doubt it.

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Re: Great Sacandaga Lake (BS)
« Reply #704 on: Mar 12, 2018, 07:00 PM »
There's no reason to not have a live weigh in option for pike there.  It's shameful to kill so many fish there for the chance to win a minimal amount of money.  They are long lived fish, it has a negative effect on an otherwise relatively low pressure fishery.  Pretty much every other pike derby in New York is mandatory live weigh in and release.
Also, it appears that at $25 a person and nearly 1,000 participants, they collect roughly $25,000 for this tournament.  The pay outs for the tournament are less than $4000 total.  The boat was donated by a local shop. Do the profits of the Food N Fuel tournament go to charity? 

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Re: Great Sacandaga Lake (BS)
« Reply #705 on: Mar 12, 2018, 08:27 PM »
You honestly think Lou only pays back $4000? What about all of the door prizes he gives away? What about the “free” pig roast he usually does? At the end of the day I would be willing to bet he hopes to break even...... JMO

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Re: Great Sacandaga Lake (BS)
« Reply #706 on: Mar 13, 2018, 03:16 AM »
I agree with 02, I don't think Lou is making a lot of profit with this ONE weekend event. Some of those guys that are catching large pike are doing it most of the season and releasing them. Keeping a few on one weekend is not hurting the lakes pike fishing. It's has more to do with people thinking that a 30" pike is a money fish...Just my .02...h2l
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Re: Great Sacandaga Lake (BS)
« Reply #707 on: Mar 13, 2018, 08:32 AM »
I dont think he would put that much effort into getting everything together if he wasn’t making a buck on it. At the end of the day he’s running a business.

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Re: Great Sacandaga Lake (BS)
« Reply #708 on: Mar 13, 2018, 08:46 AM »
correct, he is running a business, what's that have to do with the tournament? still willing to bet at the end of the day he is barely breaking even. if anyone should have concerns maybe call Lou and express them to him instead of on the internet.......

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Re: Great Sacandaga Lake (BS)
« Reply #709 on: Mar 13, 2018, 09:00 AM »
Running the tournaments is part of his business. He’s probably making more money then you think. Also probably using donations as business right offs. Plus all be business brought into the store the day of the tournament.  I didn’t say anything is wrong with it nor did I say I had any issues with it. I don’t think he would keep doing it year after year if he wasn’t making money off it

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Re: Great Sacandaga Lake (BS)
« Reply #710 on: Mar 13, 2018, 09:10 AM »
What's wrong with a guy making a profit on his tournament/business.  Lou has some great prizes, good food and plenty of happy fishermen at the end of the day.  Entry fee is reasonable with a fun day for those willing to enjoy the fishing.

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Re: Great Sacandaga Lake (BS)
« Reply #711 on: Mar 13, 2018, 12:02 PM »
There's no reason to not have a live weigh in option for pike there.  It's shameful to kill so many fish there for the chance to win a minimal amount of money.  They are long lived fish, it has a negative effect on an otherwise relatively low pressure fishery.  Pretty much every other pike derby in New York is mandatory live weigh in and release.
Also, it appears that at $25 a person and nearly 1,000 participants, they collect roughly $25,000 for this tournament.  The pay outs for the tournament are less than $4000 total.  The boat was donated by a local shop. Do the profits of the Food N Fuel tournament go to charity?

What shop donated the boat? Alpin Haus sells that boat new for around $15-16K. I don't think there is any shop that is going to donate that kind of money to a fishing tournament but please let us know who donated it so we can patronize that business. Did Alpin Haus give it to him for cost, maybe. A lot of the other door prizes are whatever ice fishing equipment he has in stock at the end of the year plus some items he buys. If he does make money from the tournament itself I bet it's not much and the reason he does it year after year is becuase he is a good business man that realizes doing these extra things in the community turns into money spent at his store, which has a full parking lot most of it's open hours.

It gets old year after year to hear people complain about this contest and the Walleye Challenge that he started and runs for the chamber of commerce. If you don't like the way they are run, simple don't enter them. There are over 1,000 people each year who have no problem putting their money up. Lou works his tail off and does a ton for the local community, not just fishing contest so don't think he is scamming unsuspecting fishermen out of their money.

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Re: Great Sacandaga Lake (BS)
« Reply #712 on: Mar 13, 2018, 12:27 PM »
What's wrong with a guy making a profit on his tournament/business.  Lou has some great prizes, good food and plenty of happy fishermen at the end of the day.  Entry fee is reasonable with a fun day for those willing to enjoy the fishing.

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Great point.  God forbid someone pay to keep the lights on. 

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Re: Great Sacandaga Lake (BS)
« Reply #713 on: Mar 13, 2018, 01:09 PM »
Pretty simple, in lieu of taking to the internet with negativity, perhaps you can have a silent protest and not partake in the event

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Re: Great Sacandaga Lake (BS)
« Reply #714 on: Mar 13, 2018, 01:39 PM »
Pretty simple, in lieu of taking to the internet with negativity, perhaps you can have a silent protest and not partake in the event
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Re: Great Sacandaga Lake (BS)
« Reply #715 on: Mar 13, 2018, 01:51 PM »
What shop donated the boat? Alpin Haus sells that boat new for around $15-16K. I don't think there is any shop that is going to donate that kind of money to a fishing tournament but please let us know who donated it so we can patronize that business. Did Alpin Haus give it to him for cost, maybe. A lot of the other door prizes are whatever ice fishing equipment he has in stock at the end of the year plus some items he buys. If he does make money from the tournament itself I bet it's not much and the reason he does it year after year is becuase he is a good business man that realizes doing these extra things in the community turns into money spent at his store, which has a full parking lot most of it's open hours.

It gets old year after year to hear people complain about this contest and the Walleye Challenge that he started and runs for the chamber of commerce. If you don't like the way they are run, simple don't enter them. There are over 1,000 people each year who have no problem putting their money up. Lou works his tail off and does a ton for the local community, not just fishing contest so don't think he is scamming unsuspecting fishermen out of their money.
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Re: Great Sacandaga Lake (BS)
« Reply #716 on: Mar 13, 2018, 03:21 PM »
What would ice shanty be, without people complaining about something ??

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Re: Great Sacandaga Lake (BS)
« Reply #717 on: Mar 13, 2018, 03:45 PM »
What would ice shanty be, without people complaining about something ??

This is also true. 

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Re: Great Sacandaga Lake (BS)
« Reply #718 on: Mar 13, 2018, 04:05 PM »
I could care less what they do with the money. Food n fuel is great. I always stop for beer, snacks, ice. I keep my boat at a marina a mile or so away. They also have really cheap propane . It’s like 8 bucks for a 20lb refill.

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Re: Great Sacandaga Lake (BS)
« Reply #719 on: Mar 13, 2018, 04:46 PM »
Yes But they Charge 3 dollars for a Dozen Fat heads Crazy Prices lol

 



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