I have an older Polar, I think it's made by Strikemaster and have had really good luck with it. I've had it for about three years now. It's great for getting tip-ups put on the perfect drop off without having to drill extra holes, or for when my Vexless fishin buddies say they need to borrow my vex to find an underwater hump or something. Kinda nice to just toss that to em rather than give up my underwater eyeballs. I hate to see what their gonna do when I show up this year with a new VS 560 camera. I don't think they will ever leave me alone. Oh well what are freinds for right? Me thinks I just figgered out why I always get invited to go fishing with them guys!!