This board sponsored in part by

Author Topic: SOUTHERN N.Y. THREAD (L.I., WESTCHESTER, PUTNAM, DUTCHESS, SULLIVAN, ORANGE COUN  (Read 707145 times)

Offline Gamalot

  • Team IceShanty Maniac
  • **
  • Posts: 2,344
Well Steve, Walleyes are certainly here in our local lakes. White lake, SB, Toronto, Mongaup Falls, Cliff lake and the Rio that I am positive of. Most that do get caught are not necessarily the species the fisherman was after. I have friends who fish Lake Erie and the Finger lake exclusively for the eyes and know very well how to target them in those lakes. They have come here to fish with me and did not catch a single one with the same technique they use up north. I heard a bunch of stories when the SB dam was being repaired and the lake was a small puddle and lots of guys hammered the eyes which probably put a serious damper on the population and future breeding success. I can't say if there are that many to make this area a good fishery for them just yet. I do know the DEC is stocking far more eyes than trout these days in our waters simply because the water temps are not now as suitable as they once were for good trout fishing and stocking. Places where I used to catch some very nice large trout now seem to hold more bass and pickerel and other smaller warm water fish like crappie and perch. Our waters here, if you believe the DEC bioligists are way more suitable for the walleys to take hold but so far I have not had any success except in the Delaware and a couple smaller lakes with eyes they were not legal size. Every time I rig and fish for walleyes I end up doing great on SM bass.
If I agreed with you we would both be wrong!

Offline Loudmouth879

  • Team IceShanty Maniac
  • **
  • Posts: 2,877
  • When you find your passion pursue it like crazy
Caught a mixed bag this morning fished from 6:30am-11am....I caught 5 fish we caught 12 total. LMB, SMB, 1 gill and 1 rock bass... took a little bit to get on them but got it figured out. Unfortunately I forgot my depth finder but judging from other places I've fished figure it probably averages 8ft-10ft deep. Had 5 bass spit the hook on me also. It's a little different fishing such a clear and weed free lake not use to that lol.

IceShanty Tournament 1st Place Muskie 2012
ISNY Tournament 2nd Place Crappie 2013, 2n

Offline mr.clean

  • Team IceShantyholic
  • ***
  • Posts: 5,751
  • new windsor,ny.
Loudmouth879 thank you for the report of your trip to lake Louise Marie. Glad you and your friend located and caught fish.
Gamalot you can add Lake Huntington to the list of lakes with walleye don't know if the DEC stocks Huntington. But I've see photos of walleye caught from Lake Huntington  no idea how big or if there is a breeding population in the lake. Always a chance the walleye were transferred from the Delaware by the so called "Bucket Biologists" . Unfortunately for us fisherman the fish do not always follow the general location and feeding plans we know of for each species and make it a challenge for us to find and catch them on our trips.

 Steve

Offline Gamalot

  • Team IceShanty Maniac
  • **
  • Posts: 2,344
Lots of the smaller and some of the private lakes in Sullivan have walleyes. In years back it was a pretty standard practice for guys to do bucket stocking from one lake to another and trout and walleye were the usual suspects. Loch Sheldrake lake has good eyes and I think Wanasink also but whether or not they are breeding on their own in each body is the question. Back in the early 60s a few guys caught trout and transplanted them in Masten lake. I never caught one but while snorkeling I did find a dead brown about 4 pounds someone had let go in the lake. Back then we never caught a bowfin in the bashakill but they sure are there now. A few guys each year when I was a kid went seriously after very large channel or Blue catfish that swam up from the Delaware in early spring to spawn. I don't know if they still spawn there or not but some monster cats did get landed with big deep sea tackle. There is no telling what we might find in any of these lakes because of bucket biologists and by natural wanderers that can get up from the main rivers. I know guys who have caught nice striped bass in the Delaware above Barryville. Trout need cold water to survive and thrive and most of these shallow water lakes get too warm this time of year. Walleyes can handle warmer water and actually are the better choice for stocking by the DEC.

Gam
If I agreed with you we would both be wrong!

Offline hardwater diehard

  • Iceshanty Militia
  • Team IceShantyholic
  • *
  • Posts: 8,434
Caught two walleyes back in the late 90s ..one in SWB and one in Toronto Res....but since the dam repairs and water release at SWB it is believed that some went south into Mongaup Falls Res and eventually into the Rio Res..my buddies have caught some undersize walleye at Mongaup Falls several yrs ago .

Loudmouth879 I would have thought that the lake would be deeper ..was it void of any visible stumps/structure ? How were the lily pads and other vegetation?
Give a man a fish he eats for a day .Teach a man to ice fish he has an obsession for a lifetime

Offline Gamalot

  • Team IceShanty Maniac
  • **
  • Posts: 2,344
Loudmouth left his electronics at home so I am sure his depths are just a guess. If anyone can get me on with my kayak I will go and do some depth checks. I will bet there is a spot with close to 30 feet deep.
Mongaup Falls has eyes and I have seen some good ones from there over 5 pounds. Same with the Rio but the numbers just are not there yet. SB took a major hit during the dam repair and I suspect any eggs laid during breeding season were destroyed when the water went out. All three of the Mongaup river reservoirs still have some trout in them but not like they did back in the 60s and 70s. I caught and released a 7 pound brown this spring in SB and was pretty surprised to even catch one there. Rio still gives up a few nice trout early in the year too but none are as good as decades ago. If the trout can and do lay eggs in the rivers flowing into these reservoirs there will always be some trout that make it. SM Bass and pickerel don't let many smaller fish live long enough to grow big though. Some calm days on the RIO I have seen huge schools of sawbellies boiling the surface and the same on Toronto. Lots of large bait balls show on my screen in all three big reservoirs and a few in Mongaup falls. These days if I want to trout fish I head to the Roundout and although the browns are getting fewer and farther between the Lake trout are thriving.
If I agreed with you we would both be wrong!

Offline Loudmouth879

  • Team IceShanty Maniac
  • **
  • Posts: 2,877
  • When you find your passion pursue it like crazy
Loudmouth879 I would have thought that the lake would be deeper ..was it void of any visible stumps/structure ? How were the lily pads and other vegetation?

Iím sure it is we pretty much stayed about 20-30 yards from shore. Not sure how deep the middle is. As for vegetation in spots thereís underwater grass and very few Lilly pads however where there were Lilly pads there were lmb. It appeared to me the main structure in the lake are docks as just about every house has one. No visible stumps..... my next spot to fish is treasure lake right next to llm.... again private but heard some good things about it and itís about 1/4 the size of LLm so less places for the fish to hide

IceShanty Tournament 1st Place Muskie 2012
ISNY Tournament 2nd Place Crappie 2013, 2n

Offline mr.clean

  • Team IceShantyholic
  • ***
  • Posts: 5,751
  • new windsor,ny.
Gamalot the more we exchange posts my knowledge of Sullivan County lakes and the fish species they contain increases . Also interesting to know Roundout Reservoir  holds Lake Trout thought there was only a small population of Lake trout in White Lake.

Loudmouth879 enjoy your visit to Treasure Lake.

Steve

Offline hardwater diehard

  • Iceshanty Militia
  • Team IceShantyholic
  • *
  • Posts: 8,434
Give a man a fish he eats for a day .Teach a man to ice fish he has an obsession for a lifetime

Offline Gamalot

  • Team IceShanty Maniac
  • **
  • Posts: 2,344
I wish they would show the results of these surveys. We all have different fishing habits and different tastes. I personally don't fish for perch but I do catch enough of them. Most get tossed back unless they are exceptionally large like 12+ inches or if they are hooked badly and will not survive. Eagles have to eat too so on SB, Toronto and a few other local lakes I fish I have fed them fish that I was sure would not live. I have no issues with those here who enjoy fishing for perch by the buckets, I just hate cleaning a big bunch of them after a long day on the ice.
If I agreed with you we would both be wrong!

Offline mr.clean

  • Team IceShantyholic
  • ***
  • Posts: 5,751
  • new windsor,ny.
 Hardwater diehard thank you for the link to the DEC perch survey.  Gamalot I agree would be nice to see the survey results before we hear about any change in the fishing regulations with regards to perch. May both of you gentlemen and your families be healthy.  I hope each of you is having a good open water fishing season.
 Steve

 



Follow Iceshanty at Twitter Iceshanty Facebook Page Iceshanty Youtube Channel
Iceshanty | MyFishFinder | MyHuntingForum
Contact | Disclaimer | Privacypolicy | Sponsor
© 1996- Iceshanty.com
All Rights Reserved.