sorry next time ill make sure but i can asure you the ones on the out side the first five are all right below 13 one if i steped on him haha would have been 13" close enough i havent seen any one catch a group like that all year and belive me i talk to alot of people around lake st.clair , hey thanks for getting my pic up , also one thing i was bumed out about was there where only 2 males in the whole batch all females full of eggs , i hate to see all thoughs eggs lost but the fish tasted good last night , kind of cool eating a filet insted of pop corn perch , thats what i call them when i have to make a meal out of 7" they fry up so fast and small there like throwing popcorn in your mouth oh well they still taste great yeah and enough arguing about the size of the fish , its not the size that matters it how you use it ! lol good luck