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Well I decided to buy a pair of these in size x-large the fit is great and they are very warm, I use my gloves when dragging my shelter around on the ice and when my hands get cold and didn't have a heater with me. The other day I forgot the ice scoop and used the gloves to scoop out the ice chips. They are 100% water proof and still kept my hands warm, outside temp was 10 Deg. and with the wind chill -1 they didn't freeze to fast on the outside still flexible. Only draw backs I could see if your hands are slightly wet the inside lining will bunch up a little and the dampness takes longer for your fingers to warm up if the gloves are left on the floor of your tent both are my fault I would rate them 1-10 I would give them a solid 9 Just my two cents Tubby
retail at $45
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