Author Topic: Off Topic Video..it's about Herring Draggers..please watch if you fish the salt (Read 2740 times)

Bluefinforme · « **on:** Dec 12, 2006, 12:05 PM »

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/scp_v3/viewer/index.php?pid=16598&rn=49750&cl=1307161&ch=340958&src=news

then read this!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://ga0.org/clf/alert-description.tcl?alert_id=4317049

MikeMunn · « **Reply #1 on:** Dec 12, 2006, 12:33 PM »

Pretty sad when the one guy is more worried about the price of fuel than he is the fishery. Hope they do set up the 'buffer zone".

Bluefinforme · « **Reply #2 on:** Dec 12, 2006, 12:38 PM »

Quote from: MikeMunn on Dec 12, 2006, 12:33 PM

Pretty sad when the one guy is more worried about the price of fuel than he is the fishery. Hope they do set up the 'buffer zone".

me too! I only saw whales pounding on krill/herring TWICE this year.....usually I see them EVERY single trip out in May

Slacktide · « **Reply #3 on:** Dec 12, 2006, 02:19 PM »

Thats a great clip!! Thanks for posting it! Anyone who thinks that herring stocks are in good shape is either blind or is a complete MORON!! When I worked on draggers years ago we would mark schools of herring 100 to 200 feet thick. You would be lucky to find even a small ball of them now. What can we do? I wish those trawlers would make a set on some dogfish!

pegasus · « **Reply #4 on:** Dec 12, 2006, 02:36 PM »

It's the same story over and over. There use to be weirs all around the coast to catch herring and now I don't think you can find one in Maine. The mid-water trawlers are catching up all the spawning herriing also. You can't just stop the U.S. boats. I remember when the Russians cleaned up the poggies. We use to have a great scallop aera up here, but when the big offshore boats showed up with thier 22' chain sweeps towing on both sides, it wasn't long before they clean that up also. The last time I went scalloping I got $18.00 a gallon now it's up to $90.00. Back to herring, it's bad when you have to use hide soaked in fish oil because there isn't any bait. I think the U.S. is going to cut the catch by 30% this year. That means lobster bait will be around $35.00 a bushel. When I first started I paid $1.25 a bushel.

Bluefinforme · « **Reply #5 on:** Dec 12, 2006, 02:41 PM »

Quote from: Slacktide on Dec 12, 2006, 02:19 PM

I wish those trawlers would make a set on some dogfish!

lol....you are the man! did you see the new regs on the dogs coming for this new year?? catch and kill baby! (not like we didn't do that before anyway)

pegasus · « **Reply #6 on:** Dec 12, 2006, 02:57 PM »

Have you ever seen dogfish in the phosphorus at night. They look like ghosts in the water. I was out to the Rock one night and the water was full of dogs as far as you could see down. When I went longlineing with my father the dogfish would get so thick that there would be five heads on the leader and a live one on the hook. That made for long days slatting dogs off.

Bluefinforme · « **Reply #7 on:** Dec 12, 2006, 03:42 PM »

they were so thick last year...I was catching them in 5 FOW while striper fishing

I told the tourists they were "Cape Cod Sharks" and fought them on light tackle a couple of times

the kids loved it....and beleive it or not....they put up a good fight on light action stuff

really!

Dogman- · « **Reply #8 on:** Dec 12, 2006, 04:27 PM »

Each time the commercial fisheries managers try to get a fishery on under utilized species is isn't too long after that they become over harvested species.
I remember walking the Dogbar breakwater in Gloucester as a kid and seeing monkfish by the dozen cruising along the harbor side searching for prey.No longer.
The herring were thick and there were cod to be caught right off the rocks,monster pollock were considered a nusiuance.The only thing we seem to have more of these days is Stripers,thankfully.
I hope they wise up and leave the herring stocks alone enough to let them rebuild.More herring=more herring eating fish.

buddah · « **Reply #9 on:** Dec 12, 2006, 05:06 PM »

Hey ben,

I heard a rumor they just passed ammendment 1.Do some research and see if you can confirm it.

Bluefinforme · « **Reply #10 on:** Dec 12, 2006, 05:47 PM »

Quote from: buddah on Dec 12, 2006, 05:06 PM

Hey ben,

I heard a rumor they just passed ammendment 1.Do some research and see if you can confirm it.

I got your PM........I am looking as we speak!

Bluefinforme · « **Reply #11 on:** Dec 14, 2006, 03:58 PM »

Buddah........still haven't found any solid/reliable conformation.....just heresay

akdg · « **Reply #12 on:** Dec 14, 2006, 04:55 PM »

Those dogfish might save some of your guy's bacon in the near future

To bad the big money makes the rules not the biologists. Someone is going to have to pay one way or the the other, who are you going to let it be?

Bluefinforme · « **Reply #13 on:** Dec 15, 2006, 08:46 PM »

Quote from: akdg on Dec 14, 2006, 04:55 PM

Those dogfish might save some of your guy's bacon in the near future

if it comes to that.....I'll retire!

Sir Catchalot · « **Reply #14 on:** Dec 15, 2006, 08:53 PM »

Quote from: Bluefinforme on Dec 12, 2006, 02:41 PM

did you see the new regs on the dogs coming for this new year?? catch and kill baby! (not like we didn't do that before anyway)

thump, slit, and chuck...

Bluefinforme · « **Reply #15 on:** Dec 15, 2006, 08:56 PM »

Quote from: Sir Catchalot on Dec 15, 2006, 08:53 PM

thump, slit, and chuck...

that just brings more of the little bastids around!

Sir Catchalot · « **Reply #16 on:** Dec 15, 2006, 09:02 PM »

Quote from: Bluefinforme on Dec 15, 2006, 08:56 PM

that just brings more of the little bastids around!

so what do you recommend?

ahhhh...thats why you have all those magnums around, every time you catch a dog just slide it in and tie it off...

Bluefinforme · « **Reply #17 on:** Dec 15, 2006, 09:10 PM »

Quote from: Sir Catchalot on Dec 15, 2006, 09:02 PM

so what do you recommend?

ahhhh...thats why you have all those magnums around, every time you catch a dog just slide it in and tie it off...

lol.........I dunno man........they just past some new REGS upping the quota on them so hopefully the draggers will put a dent in the stock.....but we'll see

buddah · « **Reply #18 on:** Dec 18, 2006, 10:42 AM »

This is from sunday's paper,it came from an article about the new herring factory ship.It looks like the inshore ban on mid-waters went through,let's hope.

Unlike the Atlantic Star, the American Freedom is not equipped to catch fish. Moreover, fishery managers have developed a new herring plan that goes into effect in January. For the first time, the number of fishing boats in the fishery will be limited. In addition, managers banned herring trawlers in coastal waters during the summer. The plan also lowers the quota on inshore waters.
Starting next summer, fishermen will only be able to catch herring near shore if they use a purse seine net, which encircles the fish when they come to the surface to feed.

yukoncornelius · « **Reply #19 on:** Dec 18, 2006, 10:51 AM »

blue

w/o dragging ice shanty into too many OT directions, what's your take on this?

http://www.bangordailynews.com/news/t/news.aspx?articleid=144287&zoneid=500

Bluefinforme · « **Reply #20 on:** Dec 18, 2006, 10:56 AM »

buddah......I saw that

now we need to do something about Bluefin

yukon.......I dunno much about hagfish.....However, I don't think that would affect the "other" species....herring on the other hand are absolutley vital to just about everything in the salt $:-\$

yukoncornelius · « **Reply #21 on:** Dec 18, 2006, 11:00 AM »

blue

some of the quotes in there just made me leary of the whole regulating process.....catch rates plummeted after an all time high, there's no regs, the fishery is moving farther offshore after being targetted & after high catch rates, etc, etc.....

Bluefinforme · « **Reply #22 on:** Dec 18, 2006, 11:04 AM »

Quote from: yukoncornelius on Dec 18, 2006, 11:00 AM

blue

some of the quotes in there just made me leary of the whole regulating process.....catch rates plummeted after an all time high, there's no regs, the fishery is moving farther offshore after being targetted & after high catch rates, etc, etc.....

I see that.........I just don't really know what impact they have on the whole cycle

either way though....it's a shame

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Author Topic: Off Topic Video..it's about Herring Draggers..please watch if you fish the salt (Read 2740 times)

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