I have an 8" Ion... And at first I was pleased with it, until my buddy bought the jiffy propane! If the battery gets cold, your in for a short outting, 20 degrees and 12" of ice and it is nice! 15 below and 24" is ice, and you have to be diligent in getting holes drilled and getting battery back on the heat pack! I am really curious to hear honest reviews of the new Gator! Anybody willing to give me that? I would love for it to be true, so I can show the propane guys that electric is just as good or better!