Jiffy3HP Auger Problem

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I don't want to highjack this thread but Mine runs fine.... It just won't cut for SH$%%T!!! I've had it sharpened and it will cut okay for a cupple of days then nothing?? I am now trying the new ripper blades and i'll see what happens. Has anyone else experience this?

[Marsh]

wish i would have see this thread 3 years ago when i bought my jiffy.  Ha much to all of your surprise mine does the same exact thing.  Heard so many good things about the older jiffys that i thought that was my best bet.  Well that goes with the old saying they dont make um like they used to.  Im am not happy with it all it weighs a ton it dosent run well, stalls from hole to hole ect.  wish i had bought a strike master or an eskimo.  if i can sell mine im getting a strike master!!  Though i will try to salvage this thing with some of the ideas from here!

thanks for all the info guys!

[Marsh]

I don't want to highjack this thread but Mine runs fine.... It just won't cut for SH$%%T!!! I've had it sharpened and it will cut okay for a cupple of days then nothing?? I am now trying the new ripper blades and i'll see what happens. Has anyone else experience this?

when i can get it too run IT RIPS thru the ICE!!  see how that new blade does!!

[Togueman8]

I don't want to highjack this thread but Mine runs fine.... It just won't cut for SH$%%T!!! I've had it sharpened and it will cut okay for a cupple of days then nothing?? I am now trying the new ripper blades and i'll see what happens. Has anyone else experience this?

ya mine is doing this now. it seems sharp to the touch but its like i have to jam it up and down to get it to cut. then when it does cut if i change my body position any it will stop ripping through the ice.

[Togueman8]

let me know how those ripper blades work for ya

[cdc]

I don't want to highjack this thread but Mine runs fine.... It just won't cut for SH$%%T!!! I've had it sharpened and it will cut okay for a cupple of days then nothing?? I am now trying the new ripper blades and i'll see what happens. Has anyone else experience this?

I am with you Flag. I filed down the edge on the point and bought new blades. That was last yr. Was ok for awhile this yr but yesterday when I used it it cut hard. I may bring my blade up to Windham and have it sharpend. Alittle cheeper then buying new ones.
 Also what I think is going on is that its so cold and the point is freezing up. Or building up with ice and not letting it cut.

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let me know how those ripper blades work for ya

Will do they are going on tonight and hopefully i can try it on Wednesday

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I am with you Flag. I filed down the edge on the point and bought new blades. That was last yr. Was ok for awhile this yr but yesterday when I used it it cut hard. I may bring my blade up to Windham and have it sharpend. Alittle cheeper then buying new ones.
 Also what I think is going on is that its so cold and the point is freezing up. Or building up with ice and not letting it cut.

I thought the samething but I made sure mine didn't have any ice build up??

[Swampbucks1]

ya mine is doing this now. it seems sharp to the touch but its like i have to jam it up and down to get it to cut. then when it does cut if i change my body position any it will stop ripping through the ice.

I've know people to use a slight (shim)?spelling? under the blade part.  If you are a machinist or know of one, I'm sure they could help out.

BTW: Some auger blades are flat, some have slight angle to them.  My pops pounded out the angle on his and shimmed that blade, now she cuts like butter.  

I happed to be the one to bend the bottom all up, how you ask?  By banging the the damn auger up and down in the holes as it started to cut less and less, and kind of gyrating it in the hole as it cut.

I didn't know that would happen and I know he can fix anything....so I break a lot of stuff.

last note, I've heard, Elliot small engine repair? if that's thier name in Elliot, does a superb job on the 'new' jiffy's.

If you buy one from KTP the suggest your head over and let them fine tune it, for a nominal fee.

Just reporting what I've heard.

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I've know people to use a slight (shim)?spelling? under the blade part.  If you are a machinist or know of one, I'm sure they could help out.

How much of a shim?

[Togueman8]

Do you shim it to have a bigger angle? im not quite sure i get it yet-thanks

[Marsh]

thanks for the info swampy!!

[Togueman8]

i guess what i mean is do you shim the blade to have more bite and how much bite?

[buddah]

If your in southern maine Downeast Sharpening is the man to see for sharpening.I could not believe the difference when i got my jiffy back from him.RT. 85 in windham.

[Togueman8]

i used my buddies auger just after he had jacksmelt sharpen it. i gotta give steve credit, that was just like buttah

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If your in southern maine Downeast Sharpening is the man to see for sharpening.I could not believe the difference when i got my jiffy back from him.RT. 85 in windham.

Do you have a number???

[Swampbucks1]

How much of a shim?

Not sure, it was suggested by the guy that owns stone's bait shop.

My wife's uncle bought a new jiffy three season ago from him and first weekend, he hit the ice, started her up and it would not cut, AT ALL.

He went right back to them and that's the solution they came up with.  After that, that thing spewed ice all over the place.

Metal shim stock .030 if you need more .050..Maybe start w/a couple washers?  Object is trying to angle the blade down a bit? Just suggestions, don't hold me anything.  

If it bites to much, you've got to much shim?  Find the happy medium...


 

[Togueman8]

great info thanks swampbucks

[pegasus]

I had that problem and a lot of it was due to ice on the cutting edge and the point. I've had shims on my Mora hand drill about the thickness of flashing. If my auger builds up with ice I'll just take it inside the shack. There is a model of auger that keeps ice free. I also have the same problem with having to run with the chock half on.

[Togueman8]

oh i know, if any ice and snow freezes to them they wont cut. i have really had to fight that in the allagash when the snow was real deep and i kept dragging it through the snow making a huge snowball on the tip. im really carefull now so i dont have to fight with frozen blades

[Gold Rush]

No problems yet with my 10" 3hp Model 31 Jiffy after two years of use. Always starts easy and cuts thru the ice like warm butter. Hope all the previous posts aren't an indication of future problems.

[mainedukblaster]

No problems yet with my 10" 3hp Model 31 Jiffy after two years of use. Always starts easy and cuts thru the ice like warm butter. Hope all the previous posts aren't an indication of future problems.

you wont have problems if you take care of it, drain the gas, or use STA-BIL in the gas, and use a HIGH QUALITY 2-cycle oil, I recently switched to amsoil- sabre synthetic oil mixed at 80:1, and it runs like a top, NO smoke, NO bogging (I did adjust the carb jets a bit because factory settings suck) I am going to play with the low idle just a bit more to help with starting, sometimes I have to hold the throttle in when I pull the starter to give it just a little gas on restarts after I drill a hole, not a big deal, once it is running and I want to drill a hole, it goes balls-to-the wall.  I timed it this year, we have 10 inches of ice right now and I am through in 4-6 seconds with a nice big 10" hole!  look for the amsoil sabre here. 
http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/atp.aspx check it out for yourself!

[chief613]

you wont have problems if you take care of it, drain the gas, or use STA-BIL in the gas, and use a HIGH QUALITY 2-cycle oil, I recently switched to amsoil- sabre synthetic oil mixed at 80:1, and it runs like a top, !

80:1? is this instead of 24:1 like the label on my model 30 says? 
while on the topic of fuel ratios, why does one motor run 24:1 the next 50:1 and so on

[mainedukblaster]

80:1? is this instead of 24:1 like the label on my model 30 says? 
while on the topic of fuel ratios, why does one motor run 24:1 the next 50:1 and so on

yes I thought the same thing too when I saw that the sabre is 100:1, ( i run it 80:1)  more details about what mix is on the bottle (severe cold etc).  I was like my jiffy 30 wants 24:1.... how will this work?  the guy I bought it from, the amsoil salesperson in south portland, showed me the data sheet on the mix versus standard ratios.  he told me because it is a synthetic oil, it meets and exceeds lubrication of the standard oil, has a higher ignition temp, which contributes to keeping the plug clean and I was amazed to hear with my own ears the auger sounding like it never had before running, clean, no smoke, no oil spewing out of the exhaust, (cleaner environment)  and the biggest thing, the power and the CLEAN sparkplug.  I was concerned about the engine getting no lube etc, but the proof was in his data sheets and my own reading about it.  and now I don't  need 3 tanks 40:1 for a leaf blower, 32:1 for the chainsaw.  Now I need one tank, and use it in all things!  and it cost me 4.00 bucks for an 8 ounce bottle and it will treat like 6 gal. 

[chief613]

ill have to look into that, i never have liked the idea of that much oil in the mix. must have a big boost in power?

[Turnbuckle]

I didn't read through all the suggestions but here is what I suggest.

Run dry gas every other tank. Only the red bottles. Don't use the yellow. They create piston wash and will quickly cause low compression.

Symptons sound to me like you are running a little rich on fuel to air. I would give it some more air, and lean out the mix you are using a bit. The ratio they recommned is a little rich on oil for precautionary measures.

If you lean it out a bit, it will run good.

Hope you get this thing figured out. It took me about 2 years to get mine straight.

[jrelaxin]

somewhere I read a thread last year about ice build up and someone recommended spraying pam  on the blades...tried it last year worked great...not enuff ice yet this year for any real drillin yet...think my hand auger has had more of a workout than my gas one

[tomcatoak]

         purchased a 2 h.p "jiffy white lightning" model 76 four seasons a go runs fantastic.  I've never replaced the plug so bogs out a little when you give it gas, but only when its cool.  I love it, light weight, dependable and only 300$.

         My buddy got a 3 h.p model 31 after one season couldn't get it started or keep it running.  The kicker is he payed alot more than me.

[jacksmelt71]

i had the same problem w/ my mod. 30 i bought last fall. really disappointed me. i had 2 eskimos before and no problems. i thought i was upgrading to a better auger. tried setting the carb myself but wound up going to the jiffy repair shop in ashland. took him about 10 sec. to get it right. i still find it cuts slow though. and real heavy. i miss my eskimo!