You guys must pound the crap out of yer gear. I've used the Quiet bubbles for over 15 years on my products, and never had an issue, and neither have my friends that use them. Mine get used continually Winter, Spring, Summer and Fall, on the water and on the ice. I've never had an issue yet, and I still use my old originals on my Minnow Magics. One I just plain wore out after years. Frabills are junk IMO. I've used them. Personally I can't speak for the Engels, becaue if I haven't used an item, I make it a rule not to make a comment as to how good/bad it is, but I've heard they're worse than the Frabill's. Try a Quiet Bubbles and see.