I remember the winter Surf is talking about, didn't get out on the ice till mid january that year. This year has been pretty poor for ice, but I made it out for the first time a month ago today. Its getting cold now, hasn't been above 33 degrees yet this month, had 9 nights below 0 sunday's high was 0. No temps above the freezing mark in the extended forecast, over a foot of snow on the ground