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Offline Joe Snag

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what waters have Mud Puppies in.
« on: Jan 05, 2009, 03:36 PM »
Here is one from the Dead Sea--Great sacandaga-
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Re: what waters have Mud Puppies in.
« Reply #1 on: Jan 05, 2009, 03:38 PM »
thats where i get all mine ....the sac.... my buddie won 100.00 last year durring a tourney there

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Re: what waters have Mud Puppies in.
« Reply #2 on: Jan 05, 2009, 03:47 PM »
Lake Champlain has them, I've caught them in South Bay.

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Re: what waters have Mud Puppies in.
« Reply #3 on: Jan 05, 2009, 03:49 PM »
i caught one on oneida a couple of years back

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Re: what waters have Mud Puppies in.
« Reply #4 on: Jan 05, 2009, 03:49 PM »
I see them in the Susquehanna River here in NY.

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Re: what waters have Mud Puppies in.
« Reply #5 on: Jan 05, 2009, 04:40 PM »
Just about every lake in Michigan it seems has them... They play heck on my shallow set Walleye minnow traps. Have caught up to three a night!!!

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Re: what waters have Mud Puppies in.
« Reply #6 on: Jan 05, 2009, 05:53 PM »
Owasco--catch them in the waters when going for the lakers. Man--they are slippery and nasty. One got about five of our tip-up lines caught up and tangled. It must have been just cruising around and did not trip one flag  ;D

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Re: what waters have Mud Puppies in.
« Reply #7 on: Jan 05, 2009, 05:54 PM »
caught in Cayuga fishing for bullhead in the spring

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Re: what waters have Mud Puppies in.
« Reply #8 on: Jan 05, 2009, 06:02 PM »
oneida has a few

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Re: what waters have Mud Puppies in.
« Reply #9 on: Jan 05, 2009, 06:03 PM »
caught 10 of em in one night off of chicken liver at oneida lake mohawk river has em down at the barge canal got em there quite a few times to

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Re: what waters have Mud Puppies in.
« Reply #10 on: Jan 05, 2009, 06:47 PM »
I've seen a few tossed on the ice from Erie at the Small Boat Harbor in Buffalo.

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Re: what waters have Mud Puppies in.
« Reply #11 on: Jan 05, 2009, 06:50 PM »
them little buggers sure do taste good ;D

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Re: what waters have Mud Puppies in.
« Reply #12 on: Jan 05, 2009, 07:18 PM »
i always get mixed talk about them are they posinous or not?

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Re: what waters have Mud Puppies in.
« Reply #13 on: Jan 05, 2009, 08:05 PM »
them little buggers sure do taste good ;D
What type of batter would you use on mudpuppies. Do you fillet them or skin 'em. I'd imagine they'd taste similar to frog legs. I'll tell the girlfriend it's a delicacy and have her try it first.
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Re: what waters have Mud Puppies in.
« Reply #14 on: Jan 05, 2009, 08:09 PM »
dead sea has plenty just keep bait close to bottom you will catch plenty have looked in holes and seen them on bottom just waiting for a meal

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Re: what waters have Mud Puppies in.
« Reply #15 on: Jan 05, 2009, 08:10 PM »
Here is one from the Dead Sea--Great sacandaga-
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So is that why the North American record for northern pike was so big out of Great Sacandaga? She ate them for snacks?  :o
I live in the midwest now but have fond memories of fishing in New England as a kid.

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Re: what waters have Mud Puppies in.
« Reply #16 on: Jan 06, 2009, 10:01 AM »
I have caught them out of Lake Ontario (just off the shore line) as well as in the St. Lawrence.

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Re: what waters have Mud Puppies in.
« Reply #17 on: Jan 06, 2009, 10:23 AM »
Mohawk River, around Lock 7.  Fugly little dudes.

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Re: what waters have Mud Puppies in.
« Reply #18 on: Jan 06, 2009, 10:57 AM »
Ive seen them in Sandy Pond.

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Re: what waters have Mud Puppies in.
« Reply #19 on: Jan 06, 2009, 10:58 AM »
i have caught them in the genesee river at night thats it for me

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Re: what waters have Mud Puppies in.
« Reply #20 on: Jan 06, 2009, 12:49 PM »
Black Lake has them.  Dog Fish too, get one of those puppies crawling up on ice in your shanty at night with low light -  :o :roflmao: :roflmao:  Makes you want to pick up and leave.  ;D
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Re: what waters have Mud Puppies in.
« Reply #21 on: Jan 06, 2009, 01:06 PM »
From DEC site:

Common Mudpuppy Distribution Map


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Re: what waters have Mud Puppies in.
« Reply #22 on: Jan 06, 2009, 02:10 PM »
SBH has them...You couldnt pay me to eat those buggers unless i was stranded and had no choice.

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Re: what waters have Mud Puppies in.
« Reply #23 on: Jan 06, 2009, 02:33 PM »
ok ok call me stupid..but are they good to eat..worth money..whats the big catch here...lok kinda cool but I am not exactly familiar with them...
I do know at the locks on the river people leave a fair amount of them on shore for dead as if they were pickerel or something?!?!
sorry for my ignorance...just info on them would be nice...thanks in advance

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Re: what waters have Mud Puppies in.
« Reply #24 on: Jan 06, 2009, 02:54 PM »
I caught one in Lake St. Clair once back in the 70's.
I live in the midwest now but have fond memories of fishing in New England as a kid.

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Re: what waters have Mud Puppies in.
« Reply #25 on: Jan 06, 2009, 03:04 PM »
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Mudpuppy
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Mudpuppy
Necturus maculosus
Necturus maculosus
Scientific classification
Kingdom:    Animalia
Phylum:    Chordata
Class:    Amphibia
Subclass:    Lissamphibia
Order:    Caudata
Family:    Proteidae
Genera

Necturus
Proteus

Mudpuppies or waterdogs are aquatic salamanders of the family Proteidae. Their name originates from the misconception that they make a dog-like barking sound.[1][2]
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    * 1 Taxonomy
    * 2 Life history
    * 3 See also
    * 4 Notes
    * 5 External links

[edit] Taxonomy

Proteidae, is divided into two genera, Necturus with five North American species, and Proteus with one European species. They represent an ancient group, dating from the Pleistocene.[3]

Family Proteidae

    * Genus Necturus
          o Alabama Waterdog (Necturus alabamensis)
          o Gulf Coast Waterdog (Necturus beyeri)
          o Neuse River Waterdog (Necturus lewisi)
          o Common Mudpuppy (Necturus maculosus)
          o Dwarf Waterdog (Necturus punctatus)
    * Genus Proteus
          o Olm (Proteus anguinus)

[edit] Life history

In contrast to many salamanders, mudpuppies never lose their gills during maturation from larvae. This aspect of their physiology is known as pedomorphosis. Despite having lungs, which appear to provide little use in respiration[4], mudpuppies spend their entire lives underwater. The adult gills resemble fish gills in many ways, but differ from fish gills in that they are external and lack any form or operculum or covering. The bright red exposed gills are often found closed against the body in cool, highly oxygenated water. In warmer, poorly oxygenated water, the gills expand to increase water circulation and provide greater surface area for oxygen in-take. Mudpuppies also absorb oxygen through their skin and by occasionally breathing air at the surface[5].

Other distinguishing features of mudpuppies, as compared with other salamanders, are the absence of eyelids and of an upper jaw. They show a degree of parental care, tending to the eggs after attaching them to submerged stones and logs. Mudpuppies range in size from 28 centimetres (11 in) to 40 centimetres (16 in) in length.[2]

Mudpuppies prefer shallow lakes and streams that have slow moving water and rocks to hide under, but have been found in up to 90 feet of water[6]. The mudpuppy diet consists of small fish and many invertebrates, including crayfish, snails, and worms. Mudpuppies mature at four to six years and can live to be more than twenty years old. Progenesis is common for mudpuppies, enabling them to reach sexual maturity in their larval stage.

Even though they eat fish eggs, negative effects on fish populations have not been documented. Fishermen have been known to catch mudpuppies, sometimes in large numbers, but most often when ice fishing[7].

To distinguish between a larval mudpuppy and other larval salamanders, note that larval mudpuppies have distinct longitudinal banding and four toes on their hind legs, the combination of which is not found in most larval salamanders within the same range[8]. The main difference between a mudpuppy and a siren is that, whereas mudpuppies have both front and hind legs, a siren will only have one pair of very small front legs.



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Re: what waters have Mud Puppies in.
« Reply #26 on: Jan 06, 2009, 03:07 PM »
I bet andrew Zimmern would eat them live..Thank you for your post...and nice map.
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Re: what waters have Mud Puppies in.
« Reply #27 on: Jan 06, 2009, 03:23 PM »
We've caught them on Canandaigua in the spring.  We call them Hell Benders.

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Re: what waters have Mud Puppies in.
« Reply #28 on: Jan 06, 2009, 03:27 PM »
The Genesee river.
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Re: what waters have Mud Puppies in.
« Reply #29 on: Jan 06, 2009, 04:39 PM »
they love dead minnows.
ive gotten one that was pushing 15 inches :o
SBH,chaut.bear,case all have em.

 



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