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Title: Edicut for the page
Post by: BeenPerchin315 on Feb 09, 2019, 03:37 PM
I see that this year people are being very condescending and being real bitter towards others why I have no idea because most of us are here for the same reason. Meet new people like we are and share a little info. Now I won't give you my exact spot but will put you in the neighborhood for the fish. I will never direct anyone to a piece of ice I myself will not fish and early in the season when giving reports i tell people i will fish down to 3.5 inches. Let try to clean the site and our fishing areas up the rest of the year. Tight lines stay safe all.
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: Woodyvtwin on Feb 10, 2019, 09:38 AM
I see that this year people are being very condescending and being real bitter towards others why I have no idea because most of us are here for the same reason. Meet new people like we are and share a little info. Now I won't give you my exact spot but will put you in the neighborhood for the fish. I will never direct anyone to a piece of ice I myself will not fish and early in the season when giving reports i tell people i will fish down to 3.5 inches. Let try to clean the site and our fishing areas up the rest of the year. Tight lines stay safe all.
I Dubiously Agree!
Thanks BeenPerchin315, this is a very eloquent and profound statement that obviously comes from the heart.
By the pure definition of "Edicut" or etiquette (however you want to spell it), which is: The rules indicating the proper and polite way to behave!
Let's do the right thing, be helpful, and nice to one another.
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: Evil Tom on Feb 10, 2019, 09:58 AM
Well said but unfortunately most people can't or won't comprehend your post.This was supposed to be a site to get and give info but lately seems like a place to get someone else's opinion rammed down your throat.
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: Woodyvtwin on Feb 10, 2019, 10:30 AM
Well said but unfortunately most people can't or won't comprehend your post.This was supposed to be a site to get and give info but lately seems like a place to get someone else's opinion rammed down your throat.
That's why I said "Dubiously"
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: Frogger on Feb 10, 2019, 01:21 PM
Well said but unfortunately most people can't or won't comprehend your post.This was supposed to be a site to get and give info but lately seems like a place to get someone else's opinion rammed down your throat.

Agreed - not sure why some folks can't intelligently discuss a topic w/o attacking people that have a differing opinion than them.  Not every one will agree - give your opinion and let it go.  I've even had a very "brave" person send me a private message doing the same thing.  Real internet tough guy  LOL
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: RyanW on Feb 10, 2019, 01:45 PM
Well said but unfortunately most people can't or won't comprehend your post.This was supposed to be a site to get and give info but lately seems like a place to get someone else's opinion rammed down your throat.

I donít know, the information I give is based off of my own experiences which form corresponding opinions. Itís kind of hard not to share an opinion when someone asks for one. I donít see how anyone expects anything less than someoneís opinion. I mean, this is a forum after all. Itís sole purpose is to get others opinions so we can improve our own experiences. This is fishing, everything is an opinion and it can proven with one question: Howís the ice?......

This is also the Internet. What sounds good in your head when typing doesnít always convey the same context when reading it. Especially in a place where nobody really knows anyone else or how they will interpret that text. For what itís worth, arenít you also trying to ram your opinion down our throats right now? It goes both ways. Having said that, I do try to mind my Pís and Qís on IceShanty because it is a great community and I donít come here for drama. Thatís why Iím married.

Take it with a grain of salt and move on. Weíre talking about fish here.
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: BeenPerchin315 on Feb 10, 2019, 02:51 PM
I'm glad all of you have at least read and thought about my post. It was MY OPINION and thought others might feel the same way. As well as by shining a little lite on this people my take a second b4 just going off if something does offend them.

By the pure definition of "Edicut" or etiquette (however you want to spell it)
Thanks for the spell check.  315er here cant spell. Lol tight lines stay safe.

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Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: hot tuna on Feb 10, 2019, 04:16 PM
Not enough scarlet begonias.
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: mistertwister on Feb 10, 2019, 05:34 PM
Take it with a grain of salt.....topics get heated for whatever reason but itís no different than anything else in social media. Fact of the matter is people barely talk face to face anymore. What the hell happened?
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: BeenPerchin315 on Feb 10, 2019, 05:36 PM
Take it with a grain of salt.....topics get heated for whatever reason but itís no different than anything else in social media. Fact of the matter is people barely talk face to face anymore. What the hell happened?
X2
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: CAPTJJ on Feb 10, 2019, 05:39 PM
Really??? Doesn't seem any worse than it ever was, actually seems pretty mild compared to the old days. So many NY threads used to get sent to Grumpy Old Men.
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: fullThrottle on Feb 10, 2019, 05:52 PM
Yeah , this year they are deleting posted before they get out of hand. Iíve seen some guys post some stupid stuff and go to comment on it and itís already gone. Iím not sure why some guys even post if itís only negative. 
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: Evil Tom on Feb 10, 2019, 06:53 PM
Yes Frogger I had a couple of those internet thugs pm me  too.Very amusing sometimes.
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Feb 10, 2019, 07:27 PM
Go fishing ppl there's ice lol yes I agree it's mellow on here this yr usually a quite a few good threads get locked at least once a season ;D
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: fullThrottle on Feb 10, 2019, 07:30 PM
How many people have got a pm from hot tuna or lowaccord  ;D
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: hot tuna on Feb 10, 2019, 07:34 PM
How many people have got a pm from hot tuna or lowaccord  ;D


Now your just starting crap and deserved to be flushed

The better question is , how many threads have been removed that were not so epic FT
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: fullThrottle on Feb 10, 2019, 08:05 PM

Now your just starting crap and deserved to be flushed

The better question is , how many threads have been removed that were not so epic FT

Literally only the ones you get shut down lol
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: bdyet76 on Feb 10, 2019, 08:17 PM
The answer to everyone's question is men are we come to thing of the past there is no such thing as a man anymore
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: bdyet76 on Feb 10, 2019, 08:18 PM
You might offend someone we can have that anymore
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: fishpalal on Feb 10, 2019, 10:32 PM
OK we certainly know the world is without manners any longer and , etc..... Instead of wasting our time , so hows the fishing ? Got picks? love to see more interaction. I can go anywheres to get the other stuff. met a guy on Limekiln lake this year , only trip there so far, wow really informative and very knowledgeable about how to fish the lake , hats off to those who share info, he left with a 16" to 18" and one over 20" splake, nice fish. People have forgotten our God given values, we share and as we do we prosper, imagine that kindness is rewarded by the One who made it all.
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: sbuffaloice on Feb 11, 2019, 05:25 AM
Meh. Half of the problem is everyone wants to be spoonfed info without doing their due diligence. Guys want to know conditions, water depth you're fishing, bait used, time of day, etc without leaving their couch.
I understand when you're not local and asking about conditions, I get it. But when the info has been posted several times(often in the same thread) and the weather hasn't changed at all, it's an old and tired routine.
It's often the same offenders. And they rarely post reports of their own.
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: beachwoods 16 on Feb 11, 2019, 06:21 AM
Not enough scarlet begonias.
They get confused and don't listen to the music play!
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: Yotecatcher on Feb 11, 2019, 06:32 AM
What did these youngsters do before the internet? Me I went and checked myself and if I met someone we'd swap info and tactics and fished on.
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: fordman on Feb 11, 2019, 07:43 AM
 :tipup: to
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: fullThrottle on Feb 11, 2019, 08:02 AM
Isnít that what this forum is for , asking questions and taking about fishing ? It literally has a conditions page. Not sure why people would be mad about someone asking for information or ice conditions .  If you donít want to respond donít. No ones forcing you to post on here. For some reason people get upset if you give too much information, like you gave you have up a secret. Just remember guys itís just fish, not gold bars lol
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: Stickhick86 on Feb 11, 2019, 08:13 AM
I get that people need to put in their own footwork. I try to put in my share and I will always report my findings but sometimes there is extenuating circumstances to prevent someone from getting out. Me for instance, my wife is working nights and we have an 8 month old youngster at home so I can't just take off with him. I have to find a sitter and then try and get out if I'm lucky so I always turn to the help of this forum to find out if it is worth finding that sitter. Just my point of view on this.
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: gonephishin on Feb 11, 2019, 08:18 AM
While I agree, it's the internet.

If you're expecting to log onto any forum/social media and expect everyone to be as kind as your grandmother, you're gonna be very sadly mistaken.

With that said, the trolling is always from the same handful of people, and it's not just this season either.
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: alfed on Feb 11, 2019, 08:36 AM
While I agree, it's the internet.

If you're expecting to log onto any forum/social media and  have expect everyone to be as kind as your grandmother, you're gonna be very sadly mistaken. Having said that it gets down to one word respect. Think about this. Did you gain your fishing knowledge by your self? Most of us were taught by the oldtimers or fellow fisherman. Why not pay it back. Frequently I see guys chew up newbies for asking questions. That normally gets me to send the newbie a pm I share everything I know if I have anything to offer. That's how I learn and continue to learn. Nothing you can do about the guys not wanting to share a particular body of water with anyone but themselves. I look back a couple of years wanting to fish Delta lake. After reading all the past posts it didn't teach me much. I follow the most common fisherman on that thread and simply asked. He gave me all the info I needed to know to be successful.  Is that what this site is all about. Step above the the negative and help a fellow fisherman.

With that said, the trolling is always from the same handful of people, and it's not just this season either.
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: reeleyz on Feb 11, 2019, 09:27 AM
Really??? Doesn't seem any worse than it ever was, actually seems pretty mild compared to the old days. So many NY threads used to get sent to Grumpy Old Men.

I was thinking the same thing. The Oneida thread hasn't even been locked yet.  ;D
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: T-Rok on Feb 11, 2019, 11:46 AM
Just dont send me pms when I post conditions saying you dont want me posting conditions for your favorite body of water because you're afraid people will come and fish it.. and I will be happy. Post whatever you want. Comment on anything I say but please dont whine when I give factual ice conditions. Everyone should have the right to fish public fisheries. The best part of this site is the conditions page. That is why people come here. So we can all be safe and save some driving time by reading a post rather than everyone having to go to a lake and check the ice themselves.
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: Yotecatcher on Feb 11, 2019, 12:04 PM
Exactly T-Rok that's why I worded my comment the way I did. I enjoy this site. But even when you go to the conditions board and ask for conditions and don't get a reply until the next day or night and then make the trip and find conditions are good or bad it's like why did I waste my time asking..
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: Yotecatcher on Feb 11, 2019, 12:11 PM
Exactly T-Rok that's why I worded my comment the way I did. I enjoy this site. But even when you go to the conditions board and ask for conditions and don't get a reply until the next day or night and then make the trip and find conditions are good or bad it's like why did I waste my time asking but I can say there have been a few who have gave a good report and they know who they are.
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: fellinonce on Feb 11, 2019, 12:53 PM
What would be great is if you click on ďReports and conditions ď, you got reports and conditions!!
Donít ask, read, and if what you want isnít there, wait longer.
No howís the ice, where do I get bait, and park and planning a trip in 3 weeks come say hi.
That is what the b.s. pages and general ice fishing pages are for
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: CAPTJJ on Feb 11, 2019, 04:11 PM
R&C would work much better if people followed the rules hat are posted as a sticky:

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The Reports and Conditions Board was developed to provide "current" information on ice conditions and fishing success. The original idea behind this section was to give our members a place to post only fishing reports and Ice conditions. It was intended to be a place to keep free of the general chit chat so ALL members could find up to date information quickly without wading through all the banter. We moderators understand that ALL members hate to have there posts deleted but this is a last ditch effort to maintain some order in this section. Please remember the Iceshanty.com Website/Forum Policies and follow these 3 simple rules.

1) Any posts that do not pertain to fishing reports or ice conditions may be removed.
   
2) Do not add posts to a thread "requesting" information for ice conditions, techniques, specific areas, to plan trips or, to just say "HI". Please use "Private Messaging" or start a topic in the NY General forum.

3) Moderators will start new topics. This will insure a consistent format.
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: CAPTJJ on Feb 11, 2019, 04:32 PM
I was thinking the same thing. The Oneida thread hasn't even been locked yet.  ;D
RG used to keep busy with that one.
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: perch chacer on Feb 11, 2019, 05:05 PM
Last year I met a 1st time ice fishermen on this site.  He was new to the area and had been out a couple of times but no success.  He explained what he was doing and I knew he was using the wrong jigs, baits and techniques and in the wrong area.  I took this guy under my wing and explained what he should change, jig type and size, bait, rod and strike indicator.  I also put him on my parking and fishing area.  After a few posts to him on a BS page over a few weeks he posted a photo of his 1st good perch catch (a doz fish or so) and a photo of his 4 year old son enjoying a fish dinner.   But I received 2 PM's one each from two different guys saying I should not give that type of info. and their PM's were not friendly.  If I can help someone new I will, but now I do it by PM's.
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: adkRoy on Feb 11, 2019, 05:28 PM
Really??? Doesn't seem any worse than it ever was, actually seems pretty mild compared to the old days. So many NY threads used to get sent to Grumpy Old Men.

My delete button this year still looks brand new.  ;D

I was thinking the same thing. The Oneida thread hasn't even been locked yet.  ;D

I think that's because you guys are getting older and maybe a little more mature.  ::) ;D
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: klino2280 on Feb 11, 2019, 06:38 PM
Meh. Half of the problem is everyone wants to be spoonfed info without doing their due diligence. Guys want to know conditions, water depth you're fishing, bait used, time of day, etc without leaving their couch.
I understand when you're not local and asking about conditions, I get it. But when the info has been posted several times(often in the same thread) and the weather hasn't changed at all, it's an old and tired routine.
It's often the same offenders. And they rarely post reports of their own.


Amen!!!!!!!

Also can't stand when the reports and Conditions pages are all but that.

Even worse, is when you post a condition or report, and ask that others keep the thread clean for reports and Conditions and the very next 2 posts blatantly disregard your polite requests.

Wish we could go back to the days where folks in general had a little bit more respect for others.

Where is the love?????
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: hot tuna on Feb 11, 2019, 07:00 PM
Crazy fingers
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: gonephishin on Feb 12, 2019, 05:20 AM
Lol this thread is still happening?

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As far as the spoon-fed go, y'all gotta remember that not everyone is a computer wiz. Not trying to be mean, but judging by some posts I've read, I'm surprised they pointed their browser in the right direction to find iceshanty.com to begin with.
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: reeleyz on Feb 12, 2019, 06:18 AM
My delete button this year still looks brand new.  ;D

I think that's because you guys are getting older and maybe a little more mature.  ::) ;D

Older maybe, not sure about more mature. If biting my tongue a lot makes me more mature then I guess I am.  ;D
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: Raquettedacker on Feb 12, 2019, 08:31 AM
Had to have this done.

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Becsuse of to much of this.


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 Do to 4 or 5 guys/old men this season.
And they know who they are.... ;)
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: filetandrelease on Feb 13, 2019, 03:23 AM
Had to have this done.

(https://i.postimg.cc/DSFqbpTx/20181231-084056.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DSFqbpTx)

Becsuse of to much of this.


(https://i.postimg.cc/cKzgTXpy/press-button-delete-450w-281429699.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cKzgTXpy)

 Do to 4 or 5 guys/old men this season.
And they know who they are.... ;)
🥴
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: filetandrelease on Feb 13, 2019, 03:33 AM
Older maybe, not sure about more mature. If biting my tongue a lot makes me more mature then I guess I am.  ;D
That could be for some but in my case Iím not so sure mature is the word Iíd use 😉
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: lowaccord66 on Feb 13, 2019, 05:22 AM
What's an edicut? I think a lot of guys here have great etiquette. 
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: filetandrelease on Feb 13, 2019, 06:07 AM
What's an edicut? I think a lot of guys here have great etiquette.
And the rest of us let that slide
 There always 1 lol 😆
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: hunts2long on Feb 13, 2019, 06:44 AM
I knew what "edicut" was, because I can't spell eater....h2l
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: lowaccord66 on Feb 13, 2019, 11:53 AM
And the rest of us let that slide
 There always 1 lol 😆

I couldn't help it Fred.  ;D
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: CAPTJJ on Feb 13, 2019, 11:56 AM
You mean there is no Lake Edicut? No wonder I couldn't find it on a map.
Title: Re: Edicut for the page
Post by: BeenPerchin315 on Feb 15, 2019, 02:43 PM
What's an edicut? I think a lot of guys here have great etiquette.
That's just rude and your not the first one.
I'm a 315er I don't spell to daggum good and rely on auto correct to much. They spelled it that way. Blahnik edicut