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Title: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TooLucky406 on Dec 13, 2011, 02:46 PM
Just wanted to share some stuff that I was able to use that has really help me out.  I was able to get data from MT FWP Maps and GIS Resource website  and convert it to be compatible with Google Earth (GE).  For Ice Shanty(IS), I figure this particular KML file would be helpful.  The file contain bathymetric or lake contours for many of Montana's lakes.

Please see INSTALLATION PROCESS below for your mobile device and PC/laptop


***UPDATE 2/19/2017***
Bathymetries are now all mobile device freely. In doing so Region 4 bathymetries were smooth/generalize to reduce overall file size.


*** UPDATE 12/28/2015 ***
There are a few new lakes, mainly high mountain lakes added. Again no bathymetric for Region 6.

Bathymetric kml are separated by Montana FWP administrative regions . Please see below picture for reference.

(https://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1088.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi334%2FTooLucky406%2FfwpWildlifeRegions.jpg&hash=50640686836e2799ddbc6ea8543a59ed)
 



DOWNLOAD HERE (Zipfile called MontanaBathymetry2015)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/o1ci676ls4g93p4/MontanaBathymetry2015.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/o1ci676ls4g93p4/MontanaBathymetry2015.zip?dl=0)

*Due to this being a free file hosting service, it has a limit on how many downloads the files can have . If you are not able to download it, likely it has reach the maximum download and you will have to wait until next month* In some instances, try to remove all cache files on your internet browser and allow all cookies and popups to show up in your internet settings.




Please NOTE, that the best way to use these KML files is to look for contour "breaks," "points," "sunken islands," etc. per your fish species you are targeting to get the maximum use, rather then for depth navigation only. Some bathymetries are better then other. For the original dataset, head over to Montana FWP Maps and GIS Resource website.

You will need Google Earth software/app install. In some cases, additional app such as "KMLZ to Earth Explorer" will be needed for your mobile device. All apps and software are FREE.


INSTALLATION PROCESS is for PC/Laptop but similar to mobile device. Only difference is you will select the kml file first then request the kml to open in Google Earth for mobile device.

1)SCAN the zip file before opening it, to make sure no virus is attach to the zip.  I have already scan it with three different anti-virus software, but you can never be too safe.

2)Once unzipped/extracted, save it (somewhere you will remember)

3)Open Google Earth. Once GE is running, Go to File => Open=> Go to the location of the .kml files => SELECT ONE kml files at a time. Selecting all KML files will delay the opening of the the files and even crash Google Earth. => Either double click the KML or select the KML and then click OPEN.

 4)There will be a delay while the .kml file open. Most of the time it will auto-zoom to the boundary of the FWP region in which the bathymetric lies.

5)Zoom in to your favorite lake to see if there is a bathymetric for that lake.  Again, this data came from MT FWP so whatever lake is on there, is the only data that they currently have.

** Add new feature to the kml, where you can click on the bathymetric line and it will pop-up the lake's name(some lakes might not have names) and depth(in feet).


Maps (These are some maps that I have already done, so you can have an idea of how to use the .kml file)

Ashely Lake
(https://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1088.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi334%2FTooLucky406%2FASHLEY.jpg&hash=93ece7c0f19b52ba9da707ffa0307f64)


Lake Mary Ronan
(https://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1088.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi334%2FTooLucky406%2FLMR.jpg&hash=370e37256822a20829d549ecc75c7496)


Georgetown Lake
(https://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1088.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi334%2FTooLucky406%2FGTOWN.jpg&hash=320479029edfae7d3c2c34d275ebb4cf)

Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: fishinwithbrittanies on Dec 13, 2011, 03:19 PM
thats wicked!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: Krakkon on Dec 13, 2011, 04:00 PM
that is neater than ****! Do they have the western half of peck? I have the  navionics contour map for my Hummingbird on the boat but as far as I know they still dont have the contour lines for anything past Hellcreek...
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: Mt.Bucket on Dec 13, 2011, 04:11 PM
Nice work.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: Jim F on Dec 13, 2011, 05:24 PM
Excellent excellent excellent!
Any for Lake 5?
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: clintonkee on Dec 13, 2011, 05:33 PM
Thats cool!  How does one find more lakes in MT?
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: copperjohn on Dec 13, 2011, 05:59 PM
Dude, You Freaken Rock!!!  Thank you very much. 
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: missoulafish on Dec 13, 2011, 06:14 PM
TL406... Nice!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: Robbi on Dec 13, 2011, 06:23 PM
That is awesome........been looking for something exactly like this.....!!!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: PerchAssault on Dec 13, 2011, 07:12 PM
Now THATS a productive post!!!

Thank You!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: NONYA on Dec 13, 2011, 07:16 PM
All the ones I could use arnt avaliable.... :'(
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TooLucky406 on Dec 13, 2011, 07:57 PM
Sorry guys for the late reply, but all those that has PM me has either been sent the kml file or an email stating that I need an email from you in order to send you the file.  This is the only way thus far that I know how to send it to people.  As far as the data goes, I was very disappointed that the Helena change of lakes weren't include in the data, but can't complain too much when its "FREE" data/software!!!  Also, it looks as though the data is less appearant in Eastern Montana too.

*** FYI...because the zip file is 10MB, email might take awhile to get through the system too.  I will look into other alternatives, only had an hour to come up with all this!! ***
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: indrut on Dec 13, 2011, 08:00 PM
Thats cool, I didn't realize some of those lakes were that deep.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: Krakkon on Dec 13, 2011, 08:12 PM
Works great thanks Tolucky! There really aren't any for central to eastern part of the state but looks like it will be great for you guys that fish the western part....
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: J_Edwards on Dec 13, 2011, 08:32 PM
Nice! Thanks for the simple instructions, very easy to follow!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: Robbi on Dec 13, 2011, 09:34 PM
Thanks TooLucky, got it figured out  and it works awesome!!!  But, like the others said.......nothing in the Central part of the state......I'm sure they're updating that file all the time though so we'll keep our fingers crossed. 

Thanks Again and Good Fishing............
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: RobG on Dec 13, 2011, 10:12 PM
Can you please put a little yellow flag in the locations where I should drill my holes  ;D
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: iceflippin on Dec 14, 2011, 01:03 PM
Hey Guys,
For some reason I can't PM. Would somebody plz email me those zipped files? Thanks,  drakekeller@hotmail.com
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TooLucky406 on Dec 14, 2011, 01:30 PM
 Think you need like a minimum of five posts before you can PM and access the  MT Ice Fishing Conditions too, but I sent you the zipfile.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TLKN2LK on Dec 14, 2011, 02:10 PM
Thanks for the kml and thanks for making this available.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TooLucky406 on Dec 14, 2011, 02:31 PM
No problem....just glad to share something people can use!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: 3maggots on Dec 14, 2011, 02:32 PM
Very Nice Information!!!!!   PM on the way with my email.  You will always have a cold beer with your name on it if I see you on the ice!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TooLucky406 on Dec 14, 2011, 02:41 PM
Thanks!  I'm a Kettlehouse guy, so Cold Smoke would be great....hint, hint!!!!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TLKN2LK on Dec 14, 2011, 02:47 PM
Just installed it.  Easy install.  Good instructions.  Works great!  Thanks again.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: IceDipper on Dec 14, 2011, 05:51 PM
Worked great, Thanks. Very easy install
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: Fishing2471979 on Dec 14, 2011, 07:23 PM
Good Info!!!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: icefire on Dec 14, 2011, 08:48 PM
can you please send me whiskeycokes99@gmail.com
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TooLucky406 on Dec 14, 2011, 10:21 PM
All those that has PM me has been sent the kml file.  If you have not received it yet, then please PM me again and I DO need an email please!  Thanks!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: wvmountaineer on Dec 14, 2011, 11:39 PM
Nice post, thanks waiting for zip
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: joshy3006 on Dec 15, 2011, 09:54 AM
Thank you this will be very handy, especially if I can make it work on my phone !!!!!!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: zimmer2 on Dec 15, 2011, 03:05 PM
Very easy, looking in Goolge in 5 minutes or less. Thank You
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: DaileyMan on Dec 15, 2011, 04:03 PM
Thanks, it's a good deal, was hoping Dailey was on it, but all the A-B lakes will help this summer.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: fishinwithbrittanies on Dec 15, 2011, 08:55 PM
I got her going.  No need to unzip or anything on my end.  Maybe it's an apple thing.
Thank you
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: Anyfish on Dec 15, 2011, 09:19 PM
Wow.  Well thought out and great information!  Thanks for all that leg work!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: Ericsrox on Dec 15, 2011, 09:43 PM
I can't PM yet, i'm just starting out so would someone please send me the kml file.
email toobabyes@aol.com
Thanks
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TooLucky406 on Dec 16, 2011, 08:04 AM
Kml sent. Also, just friendly reminder that I "NEED" an email to send it and not just a PM asking to send it.  Thanks!


FYI...Tricks and Tips:  If you have a handheld gps, you can mark the bathymetric in Google Earth(GE) and find the coordinates. Then put the coordinates into the handheld gps.

Ex: Nevada Lake/Reservoir

1) On the "Toolbar" in GE there is a Yellow Sticky Pin ("New Placemark"). Select it and you will be able to move the Yellow Sticky Pin, thus showing you your Lat/Long.

2)Zoom-in close to the bathymetric line and drag the sticky onto the line.  In the "New Placemarker Dialog Box" you will find the Lat/Long and other options; name, color, size, etc.

 (https://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1088.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi334%2FTooLucky406%2FTmV2MS5qcGc.jpg&hash=a46e18541b21ff6855629faf9dc63a2f)
 

3) Write down the Lat/Long and give it a name...in this case it's 55ft.

 (https://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1088.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi334%2FTooLucky406%2FTmV2NTUuanBn.jpg&hash=69a1140a42bd1dc7525b166723a81d0d)


4) Continue marking the bathymetric until satisfy along with writing down the Lat/Long coordinates
 (https://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1088.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi334%2FTooLucky406%2FTmV2ZnRzLmpwZw.jpg&hash=f84f88362b57acbf9b613a791c19254a)

Now you have GPS coordinates of the depths along with a hard copy map you can reference too.  *** I also like to put a grid of the  Lat/Long to go along with the map if appliable (You can find this in "VIEW => GRID")

*** If you made a mistake, via, name spell wrong, misplace marker, Resizing Text, JUST RIGHT-CLICK THE STICKY AND SELECT PROPERTIES, this will give you editing power again. ***


*I'm so hoping this all make sense and is helpful!!! LOL!!!"
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: 3maggots on Dec 16, 2011, 11:17 AM
Works Great!  I will remember the cold smoke!    ;)
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: Riverb8 on Dec 16, 2011, 11:48 AM
Ok - This is awesome.  Thanks TooLucky406.

Now you can convert the .kml file in google earth to a .gdb file.  This will allow you to open it up in Garmin BaseCamp and view the contour lines of the lake directly on your GPS. 

Here is how I did it.  I downloaded GPSBabel off the internet.  It's an easy to use program.  It asks for an input format (Google Maps XML) and an output (Garmin Mapsource - gbd).  Put it in the folder (file name) you want and click apply.

Now open BaseCamp and import that file.

Or......maybe -

Since I am on my computer at work and don't have one at home I can email the gbd file to TooLucky406 and he can send out both the kml and gbd files to people who want them.

I will email it to him, but since I am basically giving someone else more work to do without asking (sorry toolucky406) it will be at his discretion if he wants to do it.  Otherwise follow the above instruction. 
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TooLucky406 on Dec 16, 2011, 12:16 PM
MT Members,

I am looking at a secondary host site for all the data right now. So as of right now please follow Riverb8 instructions for converting the kml to the .gdb file.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: Riverb8 on Dec 16, 2011, 12:39 PM
TooLucky406,

I was reading my post and think I stepped over my bounds by throwing your name out there without asking.

Sorry.

Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: Riverb8 on Dec 16, 2011, 12:50 PM
Maybe I spoke to fast on how well the kml to gpd file conversion works.  On my BaseCamp I am only able to see the contours when I am using the MT_PLAT4GPS as my base map.  This is the one that shows land ownership.  Otherwise I can't get it to show up.  Maybe someone who is not a novice at this stuff can make it work better.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: Lamnidae on Dec 17, 2011, 06:47 PM
Love the ability to use the maps on Google Earth to add points in my gps.  On the other hand, I'm really sad there aren't maps for the Helena reservoirs.  I can't find a Hauser map for the life of me.  The whole unpack/upload process was a cinch. 
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: Quantoson on Dec 19, 2011, 08:24 AM
Makes me feel diabolical.  Thank You so much. >:D >:D
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: iceflippin on Jan 22, 2012, 12:18 PM
Has anybody else mastered converting the .klm file to .gdb and then uploading it to their GPS?
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TooLucky406 on Jan 23, 2012, 02:38 PM
@ iceflippin

Haven't had time to do the conversion from kml to gdb. But here's a link that might get you closer.  It's a lot of work (as you will see in the link), but very doable if you have the time.

http://home.roadrunner.com/~creek/garmin.htm

Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: rtrvler on Jan 25, 2012, 08:56 AM
Thank you,TooLucky406, I can not believe how many smaller lakes that are contoured and then some that you think should be are not. What a cool deal and easy to do even for an old man like me. Thanks again.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: DasRottweiler on Jan 25, 2012, 09:06 AM
I own an older (couple years) Garmin Legend GPS Handheld Unit. I have the additional Mapsource software on my pc, US Inland Lakes V3, Topo US 2008, and US Topo 24k National Parks , East V2. The Mapsource software is compatible with Google Earth -an add-on basically. Allows me to switch between 3 maps while looking at a waterbody, and a simple right click and Google Earth Map comes up , with my waypoints, routes etc. on it. I then use Snag it , a video/image capture program to copy the image so I can print it out on my printer. I can also add waypoints to the google earth maps and then transfer them to my Garmin Handheld. Great for finding and marking submergent weedlines etc. In addition the Garmin US Inland Lakes map also has cribs marked as waypoints on the unit when the map is loaded. Use the "GOTO" screen and unit will point ya to the crib or weedline etc.

Thank you,TooLucky406, I can not believe how many smaller lakes that are contoured and then some that you think should be are not. What a cool deal and easy to do even for an old man like me. Thanks again.
Seems to be the case with most mapping software, why this one and not my fav? If the waterbody I am researching has no contour lines provided thru US Inland Lakes V3, I switch to one of the 2 topo maps and can get an idea of how fast shorelines drop by looking at the adjacent topography. Better than nuttin. ;D
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: Riverb8 on Jan 25, 2012, 06:00 PM
I used GPSBabel (www.gpsbabel.org/) to convert from KML to gpd.  Its a program and you have to download it and run the .exe file.

Alternatively you can use GPS Visualizer (http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/gpsbabel/) which you don't have to download. 

With either program you select you input format as "google earth (keyhole) markup language" and you output file as "garmin mapsource - gdb"

If this is the only file you ever want to convert, I would use the gpsvisualizer.

Then I import it into base camp.  - The elevations don't match exactly like the kml file but it should work.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: ToadWhisperer on Apr 08, 2012, 10:36 AM
Got it, thanks TooLucky! Installed easy and works great.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: fortybelow on Apr 14, 2012, 10:01 AM
I opened my .kmz's yesterday and it was so simple. Thanks so much!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: larbhills on Dec 04, 2012, 02:00 PM
I guess I don't have enough posts to PM.  Can Toolucky406 PM me and I will reply with my email address?

Thanks!

Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TooLucky406 on Dec 04, 2012, 11:14 PM
PM Sent!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: SeisMec on Dec 05, 2012, 12:39 AM
This is one rocking post! Thanks TooLucky for sharing your knowledge!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: Zoo Angler on Dec 05, 2012, 06:59 AM
Sweet!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TooLucky406 on Dec 05, 2012, 09:08 AM
Fyi...if you would like the kml file for the bathymetric/contour, you will find the link in the first post along with direction how to download and install. I will no longer send it via email. If you have any questions, just PM me. Remember to scan the zip file for any viruses before opening it.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: Jason watts on Dec 05, 2012, 02:19 PM
Thanks for the info on the layering of ge maps.  I am from livingston and dont seem to find any lakes around my area with contours.  seems like most of them are in the western part of the state.  pretty cool though.  am surprised that some of the lakes that navionics has mapped are not mapped on this app. 
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: NONYA on Dec 05, 2012, 07:39 PM
Neat addition to GE too bad theres NOTHING for my lakes!SOME DAY!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: ci2019 on Jan 09, 2013, 06:26 PM
fyi.  For those with smartphones, the kml file open nicely in the Google Earth App as well.  At least on my android.  Don't have an iphone to test it.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: JayHelfrich on Jan 09, 2013, 09:50 PM
Nice!

Jay
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: bowhtr on Jan 10, 2013, 10:30 AM
fish and game have updated the file and have included more lakes like Canyon Ferry.  I just dont know how to convert the file. 

http://fwp.mt.gov/gisData/metadata/lakesBathymetry.htm
http://fwp.mt.gov/gisData/shapefiles/lakesBathymetry.zip
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TooLucky406 on Jan 10, 2013, 10:45 AM
HELLO fellow Ice Shanty....do i have something GOOD to share for you guys!! ;D FWP just updated thier bathymetric line for MT lakes...and from the quick glance of the data, it has the Helena chain of lakes, except Holter, and it looks really good! Also notice they have Big Horn lake too, but sorry no Fort Peck. Need some input from you guys. I've been trying to upload the kml on to my phone but so far not  working (HTC Thunderbolt). Thinking it's a size limitation, because I can get other kml to run. So if "ci2019" can share how he is doing it, would greatly appreciated. By the way, running the kml off free app called KMLZ to earth app. Any way, back to the,"needed" input by you IS folks, would it work for you guys if I broke up the bathymetric kml by FWP regions, thus making it smaller and compatible to smart phone, or west, central, east, etc. So let me know. I'll be working on this today and hopefully have it done before this coming weekend......also I DON'T take $$$$ donation, just secret spot waypoints and really good micro beer!!! And thanks bowhtr for the heads up!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: adam_mcd on Jan 10, 2013, 10:49 AM
Dude you won't have to bring beer out on the ice for quite awhile.  If you end up in the Bozeman area I'll have some cold ones waiting for you on top of my spots.  I'm not a smart phone guy so I have no preference there.  Just putting it into GE is enough for me.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: Bmarler on Jan 10, 2013, 11:47 AM
Yes i think breaking them up by area would be a hood idea.

Thanks for sharing
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TooLucky406 on Jan 10, 2013, 01:26 PM
All right folks, the UPDATED barometric lines for Montana is now up and running. You can find the link and LOTS of info on the ORIGINAL POST (page 1).  Due to additional lakes, it grew significantly, so I had to break it up by FWP regions(no barometric for Region 6). The zipfile contain all 6 kml. Please read the installation process, since it has now change a bit. Enjoy! ;D
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: ci2019 on Jan 10, 2013, 01:29 PM
HELLO fellow Ice Shanty....do i have something GOOD to share for you guys!! ;D FWP just updated thier bathymetric line for MT lakes...and from the quick glance of the data, it has the Helena chain of lakes, except Holter, and it looks really good! Also notice the Big Horn too, but sorry no Fort Peck. Need some input from you guys. I've been trying to upload the kml on to my phone but so far not  working (HTC Thunderbolt). Thinking it's a size limitation, because I can get other kml to run. So if "ci2019" can share how he is doing it, would greatly appreciated. By the way, running the kml off free app called KMLZ to earth app. Any way, back to the,"needed" input by you IS folks, would it work for you guys if I broke up the bathymetric kml by FWP regions, thus making it smaller and compatible to smart phone, or west, central, east, etc. So let me know. I'll be working on this today and hopefully have it done before this coming weekend......also I DON'T take $$$$ donation, just secret spot waypoints and really good micro beer!!! And thanks bowhtr for the heads up!

What I did was downloaded your zip and extracted the KML.  Then I used ES File Explorer (free app) to navigate to where I extracted the KML file to.  I just tap on the KML file and it automagically opens it in the Earth app.  Don't know if the phone or OS makes a difference for sure but I'm running a Galaxy Nexus on the Jellybean 4.2 operating system.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: ci2019 on Jan 10, 2013, 01:42 PM
All right folks, the UPDATED bathymetric lines for Montana is now up and running. You can find the link and LOTS of info on the original post.  Due to additional lakes, it grew significantly, so I had to break it up by FWP regions(no bathymetric for Region 6). The zipfile contain all 6 kml. Please read the installation process, since it has now change a bit. Enjoy! ;D

You weren't kidding when you said they were bigger!  Great job and thanks for the doing that TooLucky!!!!!  Works great on my phone too.  Albeit it takes a bit to load the layer.

Jon
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: ci2019 on Jan 10, 2013, 02:12 PM
I take that back.  R3 pukes on my phone.  Works very well on the PC app though.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: shawdawg on Jan 10, 2013, 02:14 PM
Nice work, these are great.  Of course the one I wanted (causeyway arm isn't there but nice to the others.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: Slamminsalmon22 on Jan 10, 2013, 03:38 PM
Anybody get these to open on their iPhone? If so how'd ya do it?
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TooLucky406 on Jan 10, 2013, 03:50 PM
FYI:  Just letting everyone, that I had to redo Region2, due to the label not reading correctly.  If you're not anal like me, don't worry about "re-downloading" the NEW zip.  All the data/lines are the same.....as far as iphone viewing kml, sorry man, android guy here, but search YouTube. I am using free app called KMLZ to Earth Explorer.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: Stephan_K on Jan 10, 2013, 07:50 PM
FYI:  Just letting everyone, that I had to redo Region2, due to the label not reading correctly.  If you're not anal like me, don't worry about "re-downloading" the NEW zip.  All the data/lines are the same.....as far as iphone viewing kml, sorry man, android guy here, but search YouTube. I am using free app called KMLZ to Earth Explorer.

Droid guy here too...... I found a way to get this file into google maps so it can be used on a droid with GPS while mobile with no PC tether.  If there is an easier way to use this file with a GPS I'm all ears.  Anyhow, log into google and go to maps, create a new map and import the kml file.  Only trick is that the files has to be further broken up.  Can't be larger than 3mb.  How did you break the original file up ?  I'm interested in breaking it up into individual lakes and hoping that none are over 3 mb.  If so then they have to be broke down even farther.  Then create a map for each lake and just load that one when heading out to it. 
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TooLucky406 on Jan 10, 2013, 08:17 PM
@Stephen K, the original file is in shapefile format and can be found on the    MT FWP website. I used ArcMap, a GIS base software to break it up and converted. Thing is, you're not going to get any of the more popular lakes among the shanties here less then 3MB, unless you massaged the data, in which you will lose accuracy! You can probably get the small high mountain lakes to be less then 3MB, but no one ever fish them. I'm currently in the process of getting it to be Gamin compatible, but it's more work then the kml conversion. It'll be awhile before I'll get this done, just loaded with bunch of work right now, but I'll post it up once it's ready.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: Cornbread on Jan 10, 2013, 08:38 PM
What file format do you need to put it in to get it in to Garmins? I write GIS software for a living so if you need an export selection from ArcMap as a button in ArcMap I can probably do that for you in C++ or C#. I would need to know the output format though and if they use a projection that is different then the original shape file I would need to know that too so I could do the transform on the way out. PM me if you want help with this.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TooLucky406 on Jan 10, 2013, 09:47 PM
PM Sent! Thanks!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: Stephan_K on Jan 10, 2013, 10:30 PM
Thing is, you're not going to get any of the more popular lakes among the shanties here less then 3MB

And that is exactly what I was afraid would be the case !  Just being optimistic I guess.  And that garmin conversion is a WHOLE LOT of work...... if it were simple everyone would be doing it ! 
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: lundin-loading on Jan 10, 2013, 11:29 PM
soo this thread is making me feel VERY computer illiterate...
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TooLucky406 on Jan 11, 2013, 08:37 AM
@lundin-loading

Not sure if it's just sarcasm, but PM and I'll try to help in any way!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: lundin-loading on Jan 11, 2013, 12:50 PM
Thanks for the offer toolucky, I think navionics is taking care of most of my needs but if I do decide I need to figure this out I will get in touch.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: The Rezerend on Jan 11, 2013, 07:32 PM
Thanks a bunch TooLucky406!!!! Just got everything downloaded on my laptop and its awesome. I'll be getting my iPhone Monday so I'll have to figure out how to get it on there. This should help a bunch when I'm fresh to a lake.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: clintonkee on Jan 14, 2013, 01:37 PM
This is great!!

Any one have an idea on how i could print these off, to bring on the ice ???
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: Smoov iced on Jan 14, 2013, 04:16 PM
Thanks for the info
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TooLucky406 on Jan 14, 2013, 05:28 PM

Any one have an idea on how i could print these off, to bring on the ice ???

This is assuming you have the kml install on Google Earth. Once GE is up and running, zoom into the area/lake you want to print. Go to FILE => SAVE => SAVE IMAGE AS. Remember where you save the JPEG/JPG. Now go open the image(double click it).  If you are satisfy with the image, go ahead and print it.  Depending which program you have for default viewing of pictures, you'll find the printing options. Hope this help, if not PM me for additional questions. Thanks!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: mtjim66 on Jan 14, 2013, 05:32 PM
Another way to print a google Earth image is to select File then Print.  Then click the radio button that says "Screen shot of the current 3D view"
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: clintonkee on Jan 14, 2013, 08:40 PM
Awesome!   @)
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: Pastor B on Jan 14, 2013, 10:26 PM
This was really helpful when I went to Pishkun this Saturday!  Caught a few perch, and had a really late start on the day!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: elktalk101 on Jan 15, 2013, 01:35 PM
I appreciate the new maps. I am going to take advantage of these.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: wirehairman on Feb 14, 2013, 04:45 PM
This thread should be pinned, IMO.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: MT-Ed on Dec 01, 2013, 10:40 PM
I just downloaded the files and when they overlay google earth, the whole map is covered with giant "X"s and the underlying map is severely faded out. I get the impression that google earth doesn't like using these files. Has anyone else had a similar problem?
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TooLucky406 on Dec 02, 2013, 10:48 AM
Looks like FWP did another update to the Bathymetric data and at the same time removed some of the lakes/data due to ownership of the data, ex: Tongue River Res is now removed. I'll try to add some of the new lakes into the current data. As far as "MT-Ed" about the "giant X", I'll try to split some of the Region's lakes up into three parts(Region 3 & 5 are huge data sizes; causing crashes/errors) to something like Region3_1, Region3_2, Region3_3, etc. I'll update when I am finish, but it might be some time, since work is busy right now and Free Time is hard to come by, especially with the ice forming this week! Any questions, just PM me. Thanks!

***All data, download info on MT Bathyemtric can be found on the very FIRST post, for folks new to this***
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: MT-Ed on Dec 02, 2013, 06:03 PM
Thanks TL.....no hurry on my part, I'm still able to use them, just not as clear as in the past. I think I'll rename the old files if the new ones have changes.

ed
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: MTangler on Dec 03, 2013, 08:45 AM
Out of curiousity does the Navionics App need cell service when out on the ice? Or how does it work?

MTA
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: rambo51 on Dec 03, 2013, 10:47 AM
I was also wondering about that. And what lakes in montana does it have on it?
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: MTangler on Dec 03, 2013, 12:19 PM
It has 90% of the lakes covered. I know you can download the map sections for countours and such but can you still use gps and plot points without cell service? I guess I should have been more specific.

MTA
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: JayHelfrich on Dec 03, 2013, 03:00 PM
MTA,

Yes you can use the GPS when out of service as it uses the phones GPS receiver to pinpoint your position.

Jay
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: MTangler on Dec 03, 2013, 04:56 PM
Oh hell ya! That makes my day. Now if I could only get some work done and quit thinking about drilling a hole in the ice this weekend. It cant come soon enough  ;D

MTA
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: OneMoreCast on Dec 03, 2013, 06:05 PM
I might be missing something but it says the link is broken... :(
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TooLucky406 on Dec 03, 2013, 06:49 PM
OneMoreCast..... The link is temporary disable. I should have the new/updated bathymetric ready by tomorrow afternoon. There are several new lakes in each MT Fishing region....i.e., Salmon Lake, Placid,  Whitefish, Harpers, Beavertail, etc.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TooLucky406 on Dec 04, 2013, 10:55 AM
ALRIGHT IceShanty members!!!! The NEW bathymetric .kml files are completed. There are several new lakes that are frequently fish here that now have the bathymetric lines, so kudos to FWP for working on this! You will find all the UPDATED info on the first post. The zipfile is large(122MB) so will take some time to download. There are a total of 9 .kml files(some not compatible for smartphone). If you have any question please PM me. Thanks.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: 406woodsman on Dec 06, 2013, 01:35 AM
This is great, thanks for the post.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: wirehairman on Dec 06, 2013, 12:02 PM
I've used your maps quite a bit in the past, particularly for Tongue River Reservoir.  Am I understanding you right that I will lose TRR if I download the new Region 7 maps?

Thanks again for doing this.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TooLucky406 on Dec 06, 2013, 12:11 PM
No Tongue Res is still there. Due to copyright, by the surveyor and FWP,  it was removed from the  updated data. But being that Region 7 didn't change, I left the same .kml file in the zipfile. All the name are different so even if you unzip the NEW data there will be no overwrite/erase of the data. Confused you even more!  Lol!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: MT-Ed on Dec 08, 2013, 10:52 PM
Tried downloading the new zip file, but got an error msg. that it was an invalid zip file! Anyone else have this happen.....or was it just me?
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TooLucky406 on Dec 09, 2013, 11:23 AM
PM sent to you MT-Ed!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: fishinwithbrittanies on Dec 09, 2013, 01:38 PM
just got news on the update.  Thanks for staying on top of this!  My vote for the most helpful thread on Montana Ice Shanty!
Great info, thanks much!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: MTwalleyehunter on Dec 09, 2013, 06:26 PM
Awesome.  But there are a few things missing.  There is a sick sunken island on Canyon Ferry that is not showing on the map, and another hole which is money on Ling at times. Which is good I guess.  Just wondering what else may not be showing.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: hagfan72 on Dec 27, 2013, 09:20 PM
I tried downloading the ZIP file, but nothing happens when I click the link.  Any idea why?
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TooLucky406 on Dec 27, 2013, 11:12 PM
Due to "bandwidth" restriction, I am going to TEMPORARILY disable the link. I will post once it is back up and running. Sorry for any inconvenience!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TooLucky406 on Dec 28, 2013, 02:51 PM
Looks like you can only download the zipfile onto your phone right now. I'm having issue downloading it on to my computer(could just be mine though). You can also transfer the data from your phone to your computer as well. The original server host should be back and running at the beginning of next month. PM me if any questions. Thanks.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: hagfan72 on Dec 28, 2013, 03:33 PM
Just downloaded it onto my laptop.  Thanks again for all the hard work!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: montanafishingr on Dec 28, 2013, 05:48 PM
That was the problem I had when I sent you a pm. Would download to my computer. I had to have a friend email me the files I needed.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: Waksupi on Dec 29, 2013, 02:04 PM
Okay, I'm computer illiterate. Got a picture of Lake Blaine?
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: rivermandave on Jun 22, 2014, 02:51 PM
@ TooLucky406

My hat is tipped to you sir as this is the most imformative post/topic I have seen regarding lake contours / depth / bathymetry etc...that I have ever seen on the 'Net.

MANY states that don't have maps available on their websites ALSO have "metadata" and GIS info available.

As an open-water fisherman I have always thought that a decent map of a lake / reservoir is the best place to start.

I can add more info concerning maps & such in a few days.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TooLucky406 on Dec 03, 2014, 07:45 PM
ttt

Forgot I made this post. Just wanted to "bump" this up for those folks that have not gotten a chance to download the bathymetric .kml.

Currently no new data from FWP.

Any questions feel free to pm me. Thanks.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: blitzfish on Dec 04, 2014, 05:13 AM
Thanks toolucky, i was one of those!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: icefishmissoula on Dec 04, 2014, 09:38 AM
There is a app  called fishidy  that I recently downloaded onto my phone.  it has some lake contour maps for free.  it definitely isn't the best quality but it's free and it works.  used it  on Georgetown last week.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TooLucky406 on Dec 04, 2014, 10:57 AM
icefishmissoula thanks for the heads up on the app!.... with some additional software I'm been creating geo-pdf with the bathymeteric and using the Avenza PDF Maps app(free as well).
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: BigZee44 on Dec 20, 2014, 09:53 PM
Awesome! Been looking for a TRR map. 
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: 207 in the 406 on Dec 27, 2014, 05:46 PM
Thank you, TL!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: boss j on Dec 27, 2014, 05:48 PM
cool
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: bowhtr on Jan 02, 2015, 01:12 PM
Any one have Bathymetric contour map for Hebgen Lake
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: Itsatrap on Jan 22, 2015, 09:38 PM
Thanks for the maps comrade. Will put them to work
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TooLucky406 on Dec 28, 2015, 01:59 PM
Lots of new members to Ice Shanty so figure I bump this up. Also there are couple new lakes added, mainly high mountain lakes. For those of you familiar with this, not likely need to download the file. For those new to this please go to the 1st/Original post for detail. PM me if any questions.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: mtjim66 on Dec 28, 2015, 03:30 PM
TooLucky,

First of all, thanks for putting these maps together way back when.  I have used them extensively and really appreciate your effort.  As for the updated files, I have a quick question.  Do you happen to know if the contours for the Causeway Arm have been added?  If so, I will download the new ones.  If not, what I have already will do.  Thanks again and good luck this year.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TooLucky406 on Dec 28, 2015, 06:05 PM
No Causeway or Holter......still waiting on those!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: Ice Holes on Dec 28, 2015, 07:21 PM
Thank you!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: gso12 on Dec 28, 2015, 09:16 PM
 Thanx again!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: MTsGrumpyIceMan on Dec 28, 2015, 11:11 PM
I just want to commend you on going above and beyond to help fellow fishermen with providing these links and maps.
Thank you very much:)
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: PBHoss on Dec 30, 2015, 08:54 AM
Thank you!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: FinalSwim on Dec 30, 2015, 01:50 PM
Anyone know a good place to find a map for fort peck?
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TooLucky406 on Dec 30, 2015, 02:03 PM
Try Marks Lake maps.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TooLucky406 on Feb 19, 2017, 11:42 AM
Although late in our ice season, "Bumping" this due to several recent request for the kml download. Also, I made all the kml files mobile device freely now. In do so, Region 4 bathymetries were smooth/generalize to reduce overall size. No major lake bathymetries were added by FWP in this dataset.

*Please refer to the 1st original post for detail. Enjoy and be safe on the ice!   
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: HARRYFISHBALLS on Feb 19, 2017, 01:49 PM
 I just downloaded this app,will it show your position on the lake as you move so you can figure out where you are and how far you are from your desired location?
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TooLucky406 on Feb 19, 2017, 03:05 PM
Google Earth relies on cell service, but it should show you your location if you have service. I use it solely as  pre-scouting tool versus  navigational.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: icenerd on Mar 09, 2017, 10:05 PM
on my phone I just downloaded google earth the kmlz to earth app and the maps. when I try to open it I get cannot open download or cannot open file.
Was this because I did a direct download? do I need a dropbox account?
any help would be very much appreciated since I'm not to tech savvy.
Thanks
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TooLucky406 on Mar 09, 2017, 10:40 PM
Pm sent!
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: lunkerslayer on Mar 17, 2017, 03:04 PM
I  have a old gis file that is of north dakota from 57 to 62, i would like to overlay it onto google earth. Also that the gis amp on the website will let me zoom in close while other areas become a black and white checker board image. Here is the gis file thanks for the help
https://ndgishub.nd.gov/arcgis/rest/services/Imagery/AerialImage_ND_19571962/ImageServer?f=jsapi
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: redbird4 on Feb 06, 2019, 09:18 PM
I have found this to be helpful over the years and I needed to get it on my new phone. Thought I would get it back to the top of the list.
Title: Re: Google Earth Bathymetric/Contour Maps
Post by: TooLucky406 on Feb 06, 2019, 09:32 PM
Couple new lakes added by FWP since the last files. Mostly high mountains lakes and I believe Hegben Lake been added. I can post updated version if folks want it, but with Navionics and the likes not sure if people need it. Thanks for bringing this back up! Lol!