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IceShanty Main => General Ice Fishing Chit Chat => Topic started by: pike44 on Jan 30, 2011, 09:58 PM
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anyone run into this? I was sitting in my shack, had a flag go up in the middle of lunch. Some guy runs about 60 yards over to my tip up and starts yelling flag, flag. So I step out with coffee in hand, waive and yell, "I know, it's mine". Being a trophy pike fisherman for 35 years, I take my time heading to a flag(it's not like I'm trout fishng). So I step back in the shack to finish the last half of my lunch, when I look out the window, I see this clown lift up my tip up and start pulling line. Well the rest of lunch was put on hold, it did'nt take me long to cover some ice and yank my herritage laker out of his hands, and I was at "NO" loss of words. Fortuately he did'nt have any words for me. I did finish pulling the fish in, 33"northern.
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lol thats hilarious! and no i have never seen or heard of someone grabbing someone elses flag ... im dieing to know what you said to this guy
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So now we have to stand guard over our tip ups? This world never seems to amaze me.
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haha that's funny... have never heard of it happening before. I agree... I would like to hear what you had to say to him.
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Ive never had that happen either crazy world though now. I think its just about as bad. When your sitting there in your little single man tent or under the tarp (catching them or not) and someone starts drilling a hole like right beside you. Massive lake and you got to come fish right next me...Different if you know the person maybe, but really...
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You gotta be kidding me? You just don't touch another guys flag!! Unreal.
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I hope you told this guy that no one touches anyones stuff unless he is told to. He is an armature. Some people just don't understand. Jerry
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If any of you guys touch my flag, I`LL KILL YA...
(Stripes)
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I`m so glad that I have most of the spots I fish all to myself! I tend to fish on weekdays and stay away from the circus on weekends, and that goes for softwater too. J.Q.Public is a Moron. I feel for those of you that are forced to deal with him.
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i take my time as well
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wow...can't say that i'm surprised though. although it's never happened to me i've heard of it happening to others. and i myself would never ever run up to someone else's flag. maybe if it was a buddy i would but i would most certainly never start to pull line....i would just stand there and stare...kinda like what i do with my own. you know ice fishin ain't really what it used to be...buddies don't even tell ya that you have flags anymore...people start to pull up your fish...good to know it's not just my group of ice buddies that are real jerks! i'd really like to know your choice words to that guy too! Happy trails!
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The guy probably figured it was fine to pull it in since you decided to go and finish eating. In Wisconsin, if that guy would have happened to be a DNR warden and you went back inside to eat, you would have gotten a ticket for an unattended line. You are supposed to tend to that fish on the line ASAP, no exceptions for a half eaten lunch either that you feel you had to finish first...lol.
That same guy you yelled at is probably on some other forum asking if anybody ever seen somebody ignore their flag and finish eating lunch. Then when he thought he was being nice and helping out, the guy had a b***h fit about it.
Now personally you asked if I seen anything like that before. NOPE, I never seen anybody ignore their tipup when there was a fish on and finish eating first. Most people will slowly walk over by the tipup and wait there till it starts spinning again. I have fished for northern pike over 30 years and never seen the need to give the fish more time before retrieving it, walleye pike YES, but not northern.
Matt
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The guy probably figured it was fine to pull it in since you decided to go and finish eating. In Wisconsin, if that guy would have happened to be a DNR warden and you went back inside to eat, you would have gotten a ticket for an unattended line. You are supposed to tend to that fish on the line ASAP, no exceptions for a half eaten lunch either that you feel you had to finish first...lol.
That same guy you yelled at is probably on some other forum asking if anybody ever seen somebody ignore their flag and finish eating lunch. Then when he thought he was being nice and helping out, the guy had a b***h fit about it.
Now personally you asked if I seen anything like that before. NOPE, I never seen anybody ignore their tipup when there was a fish on and finish eating first. Most people will slowly walk over by the tipup and wait there till it starts spinning again. I have fished for northern pike over 30 years and never seen the need to give the fish more time before retrieving it, walleye pike YES, but not northern.
exactly...Maybe next time he can just let the fish digest the bait before going over to take care of it..... That waiting thing is joke... Waiting alittle while standing over the tip up is fine, finishing your lunch when the fish is on the line is just plain stupid.
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Almost along the same line, last year one of my friends had some guy who was fishing near by, the guy pulls his tip up's to go home, and pulled one of my friends tip up's and went home with it. **censored** he even had his name on it. I don't know if the guy lost count of how many he pulled or what. He never did get it back.
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ill let guys know if they have a flag but never would i run over to it and catch the fish. i would be pretty po'ed if someone caught a fish on my tip up
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I dunno. Maybe the guy was just a little too excited for you and thought he was doing you a favor, no real need to get bent out of shape about it.
A lot of novice and some veteran fishermen see a fish pulling line or drag and think "he's getting away!!!". I have a buddy that's a veteran fisherman and he always starts hollering the fish is "GETTING AWAY" when he hooks one that pulls line and drag ;D. I always laugh and holler REEL REEL!!! GET HIM IN HERE BEFORE HE GETS AWAY!!!
As far as leaving the fish on the line, if you're keeping them or using a circle hook... I don't see any problem, but if you're practicing C&R and using a treble or "J" hook you should answer your flag in a timely manner.
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Never had it happen to me...but I believe it may of happened to fishnmachine...he might have a reply! ;D
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finishing your lunch when the fish is on the line is just plain stupid.
Easy there fella! Down Boy!! Don't get shook! It was Pike44's trap and if he wants to eat first, let him eat! Some people just don't get all shook up about things. Especially after they've been doing it for 30+ years... Calling him stupid just puts it right back in your face. :cookoo:
He is an armature.
Oh, one of those guys aye?!?! ;D Spell check suggesting the wrong words again? ;)
When I'm with friends we all go to each others flags, mostly to see if the spool is turning so we can tell the owner. About the only thing we do besides that is chip the ice in the hole for them if needed so they won't have to once they get to their trap. Other times someone will say 'go ahead and take it'. Esp. if we are just perch (WP) fishing.
I went fishing recently with a few friends and one of the guys brought along someone in his 30's who obviously hadn't ice fished much if at all before. He was given some traps to use but after we all got set up, he seemed to think all the traps were to be tended by anyone in the party. I still don't think to this day he could tell one type of trap from another. At least after awhile he learned to ask 'is this one mine'?
He was definitely one of those 'armatures'! ;D
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Perhaps a tightly wound armature? (electrical humor)
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If any of you guys touch my flag, I`LL KILL YA...
(Stripes)
Settle down Francis!
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If it was me, I'd call it out to the other guy for sure, but never, ever, ever, would I touch another man's set up.
There are some things you just don't do, even on ice! ;D
hahaha.
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that's ridiculous. I would never leave a running spool on a tipup alone for more than a few seconds...but it's his flag, he can fish it how he wants (can't understand finishing lunch tho)
as for touching another man's flag...that is the stupidest thing I've ever heard! I've never seen that, nor do I think I ever will...that's a special kind of stupid.
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Easy there fella! Down Boy!! Don't get shook! It was Pike44's trap and if he wants to eat first, let him eat! Some people just don't get all shook up about things. Especially after they've been doing it for 30+ years... Calling him stupid just puts it right back in your face. :cookoo:
For real? He doesnt even know what is on the line and it is acceptable to sit down and eat lunch first? How are you supposed to release an illegal fish after it takes 2 treble hooks in the stomach or has it's gills destroyed?
Respect the fish and go get it when your tipup pops. Leaving a line unattended is illegal where I'm from, hopefully it is where you are too.
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I took a dud out fishin a couple years ago. He had never been out so I told him after things were set up that the pike had been in the habit for the last couple weeks of grabbing the bait and stopping a few short yards away and just holding onto the bait. I said "You gotta give em a few minutes". Didnt matter, every flag that went up he would go on a dead sprint stompng up to the hole and jerk the bait out of their mouths or the fish would just drop it and leave. Time and again I would yell at him to slow down. Some armatures just cant help it. I touched another mans flag ONE time. I was tending a flag on the end of my spread and this dude was down the line and had a flag up near me and he was tending to a nice fish about 50 yards from this one. The flag I grabbed had been up and I could tell it was almost out of line and I hollered at him that his line was getting real thin so he told me to please grab it for him. But NEVER EVER grab someone elses line univited
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If I had a flag up have to say I would put my lunch down too....If i saw someone else ignoring it so be it but does seem like it might mess up a fish pretty good if its swallowed....then again what do I know...I never have that much luck with tip ups...always do better jigging
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I have seen this more than once.My boys and i have a rule someone can look but NOT touch.If a stranger does this the screaming begins and warnings shouted and they may have confused it for there own,no harm.Just to grab anothers flag game on.I do tend to eat lunch between flags.Dont touch another mans flag unless he asks you to.
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He was just trying to do you a favor and save you the hassle of pulling in that fish.. ::)
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For real? He doesnt even know what is on the line and it is acceptable to sit down and eat lunch first? How are you supposed to release an illegal fish after it takes 2 treble hooks in the stomach or has it's gills destroyed?
Respect the fish and go get it when your tipup pops. Leaving a line unattended is illegal where I'm from, hopefully it is where you are too.
Well, it doesn't matter whats on the line, it's mine, hands off! And if you have to be told twice, I'm not above giving you an old fashioned lesson in manors. As for lunch, you missed the point. Lunch was not important, giving the fish a couple minutes was. through countless hours of pike fishing over many years, I have learned that grabbing the line to quick results in pulling the hook out of the bait, more often than not (little tip for the rookie professionals). I don't know what your smok'in "silva", but where did you come up with 2 treble hooks? I have never used trebles for pike, I use gamakatsu circle. I do practice catch and release, but do like to eat pike if in the mood or it's necessary. And where I'm from, if you can see your tip up, you are attending it, nothing in the rule book about dashing to a flag. Bottom line, I'll fish my way, you fish yours.
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How are you supposed to release an illegal fish after it takes 2 treble hooks in the stomach or has it's gills destroyed?
You are probably assuming he was using trebles because that is what you are used to just as I am assuming he was using singles as that is what I use. When we catch a sub-legal game fish here, it is common (and recommended by our F&G dept) just to cut the line rather than risk hurting the fish any further. We even leave the fish in the water/hole taking the snell off a swivel or cutting the line with a knife.
But as mentioned above, sometimes if you want to catch some finicky fish, you have to let them go for a second run before they take the bait in their mouth enough to set the hook.
Just because he didn't drop his food all over the ice and immediately started to run to the flag screaming and flailing his arms does not mean his traps were unattended. Maybe he only had a couple bites left to his sandwich or maybe it was falling apart and he had nowhere to set it down.. We can micro analyze this if you like but if he was within the law, no foul.
Once again as happens all too often on this site, people are complaining about someone's method which is not illegal. You fish your way, I'll fish mine, and please, let the guy fish his way too. ::)
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Somebody messing with my stuff would piss me off too. This scenario wouldn't have happened to me as I'm on a flag like flies on ****.
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never, ever, ever, would I touch another man's set up.
Neither would I, even if he did turn his head a coughed!!! :o
;D :roflmao:
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Well, it doesn't matter whats on the line, it's mine, hands off! And if you have to be told twice, I'm not above giving you an old fashioned lesson in manors. As for lunch, you missed the point. Lunch was not important, giving the fish a couple minutes was. through countless hours of pike fishing over many years, I have learned that grabbing the line to quick results in pulling the hook out of the bait, more often than not (little tip for the rookie professionals). I don't know what your smok'in "silva", but where did you come up with 2 treble hooks? I have never used trebles for pike, I use gamakatsu circle. I do practice catch and release, but do like to eat pike if in the mood or it's necessary. And where I'm from, if you can see your tip up, you are attending it, nothing in the rule book about dashing to a flag. Bottom line, I'll fish my way, you fish yours.
For the record, I think you were both in the wrong. He shouldn't touch your flag and you should respect the fish. Grabbing the line too quick and sitting down for lunch are 2 different things. any hook in the stomach or gills will damage the fish, trebles are what I personally use, and have had great success with, thanks much.
If I saw you leaving a fish to ingest your hook for several minutes while you ate lunch i wouldnt mind giving you a lesson in manners yourself, sir. There is the law, and there is common sense and respect for this fine sport. I think you can cross one without necessarily crossing the other. I mean, it wasn't "illegal" for him to grab your tip up, still a pretty douche thing to do, right?
If it was a few seconds you were letting the fish take a quick run and I misunderstood the post, I apologise. If you honestly have let the fish run for several minutes before you can hook, maybe you should switch to treble hooks too, tough guy.
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Dont touch my flag!!!!!
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I've been with DNR CO's before both fishing and watching for my law enforcement degree. I can honestly tell you, both officers I followed would have written you a ticket, or a written warning for unattended line. Once you acknowledge that you know a fish has taken your bait, you are to respond to it. You can walk over to it and wait there, but you can not return to your shanty.
That would be the same thing as setting your rod up 20-30 yards down the bank with a bobber, seeing the bobber go down, and ignoring it to let the fish take the bait. You can do that but only if you are reasonably close to the line and make a reasonable effort to catch the fish in a reasonable amount of time.
If I was watching I would have written you a ticket for unattended line, and asked if you wanted to press charges for mistermeaner theft in the case of him picking up your tip-up.
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ive seen it happen when people are too close together thats why all my flags have my name on them sharpies are wonderful things
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ok how about this situation. I would not grab anyone else's flag, even a partner, unless given permission. But, I did last week. here's the scenario. we were walleye fishing and it came to the end of the day, I already had my flags picked up, so I offered to pick up a couple for my buddy. He went one way, I went the other. When I came up on one flag, I could see the "T" on his polar was turned, and then it started to twitch. The "t" was caught on the flag and would not allow the flag to go up. I walked up to it, released the flag, pulled out the tip up and brought the fish it. the fish was in the slot limit, so we were not able to keep it anyway. would you have done the same, or tell your buddy who is 100 yards away that there is a fish on the line to allow him to come over and take it. If i were my buddy, i would not care in the least bit if my fishing partner pulled in a fish for me while he was helping me pick up my flags. If i am on a hot perch bite, I will often tell other people to go grab a flag for me if I have them set out for pike at the same time.
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For the record, I think you were both in the wrong. He shouldn't touch your flag and you should respect the fish. Grabbing the line too quick and sitting down for lunch are 2 different things. any hook in the stomach or gills will damage the fish, trebles are what I personally use, and have had great success with, thanks much.
If I saw you leaving a fish to ingest your hook for several minutes while you ate lunch i wouldnt mind giving you a lesson in manners yourself, sir. There is the law, and there is common sense and respect for this fine sport. I think you can cross one without necessarily crossing the other. I mean, it wasn't "illegal" for him to grab your tip up, still a pretty douche thing to do, right?
If it was a few seconds you were letting the fish take a quick run and I misunderstood the post, I apologise. If you honestly have let the fish run for several minutes before you can hook, maybe you should switch to treble hooks too, tough guy.
Ok mister make up any scenario so you have something to whine about. Lets try to address some of your delusions, first off, I never sat down to finish my lunch. My lunch happened to be venison sandwich, half gone, your small mind seems to think lunch was a five course meal that I sat down and finished for an hour. I think two bites of a sandwich, the last swig of my coffee and throw my jacket on would take a whole minute. Well I didn't get that far, I opened the door, said I know it's mine, closed the door and looked out the window to see my tip up in his hand. Don't sit at your computer and make up crap about a situation you know very little about. And I don't use double or single trebles because I think it would kill a lot of fish(not that I care what you use), I have used a single hook for many years with great success, and very few unintended casualties. " foolish man should ask more questions before shooting off mouth, grasshopper"
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Ok mister make up any scenario so you have something to whine about. Lets try to address some of your delusions, first off, I never sat down to finish my lunch. My lunch happened to be venison sandwich, half gone, your small mind seems to think lunch was a five course meal that I sat down and finished for an hour. I think two bites of a sandwich, the last swig of my coffee and throw my jacket on would take a whole minute. Well I didn't get that far, I opened the door, said I know it's mine, closed the door and looked out the window to see my tip up in his hand. Don't sit at your computer and make up crap about a situation you know very little about. And I don't use double or single trebles because I think it would kill a lot of fish(not that I care what you use), I have used a single hook for many years with great success, and very few unintended casualties. " foolish man should ask more questions before shooting off mouth, grasshopper"
Personal attacks, good to see you are keeping it above the belt. An internet tough guy indeed. You must be very proud of yourself pal.
Listen, I said originally, in the post you quoted but didn't bother to read - I apologise if I was understanding the scenerio incorrectly. The way it happened and the way it comes across in text are often 2 different things.
I'm glad you have success in your fishing, I'm even more glad to hear you don't abuse fish as your first post seemed to ellude to. Since my comment wasn't the first that was critical of your technique, I think the problem was in the way the post was written rather than how I read it.
I take conserving our fish and waters very seriously and abuse of fish is a hot topic with me. It doesnt take much to draw criticism and if I think you are doing something wrong on the ice or water, you are going to hear about it. Had you been doing what it sounded like you were admitting to, I had every right to be critical of your technique and would hope that other fellow anglers would stand up and say something too. I don't apologise for saying anything I have posted in this thread, only for understanding you improperly.
I have caught and seen tons of catches on a double treble quick strike and never seen a fish that was hooked or played properly die on the ice. It's nice that your technique works for you.
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Ya, whatever. life really is to short for you to sit on your computer endlessly reading posts and trying to find any nit picky detail that you can try to justify complaining about. Get a life, put the mouse down and go drill some holes. Good luck and tight lines.
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lmao
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I cant even imagine some idiot doing this to my flag. In Wisconsin we are allowed to tend 3 lines and I have watched wardens watch people for hours to see who has too many lines. This would have constituted too many lines for the guy which would have resulted in a fine. Now that would have been funny to see happen. :tipup:
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Ya, whatever. life really is to short for you to sit on your computer endlessly reading posts and trying to find any nit picky detail that you can try to justify complaining about.
Seems to me both of you are nit picking, so who is calling the kettle black?
Get a life, put the mouse down and go drill some holes.
I agree, get a life, put the lunch down, and catch those fish on the tip ups before your neighboring anglers decide to pull them up for you.. Either that or find a lake that nobody else is on, takes care of all your problems, well at least where tipups with fish on and finishing your lunch are concerned. Good luck and tight lines.
Have a great day,
Matt
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I cant even imagine some idiot doing this to my flag. In Wisconsin we are allowed to tend 3 lines and I have watched wardens watch people for hours to see who has too many lines. This would have constituted too many lines for the guy which would have resulted in a fine. Now that would have been funny to see happen. :tipup:
Not really, that wasn't his flag... nor his trap.
Sounds like your DNR has plenty of time and resources, if I see a CO more than once every 3 or 4 years I feel like I'm being spied upon.
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Not really, that wasn't his flag... nor his trap.
Sounds like your DNR has plenty of time and resources, if I see a CO more than once every 3 or 4 years I feel like I'm being spied upon.
Our DNR is a joke.... They should be wiped out financially and start over from scratch......
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Our DNR is a joke.... They should be wiped out financially and start over from scratch......
That's not what eyesonice says...
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That avatar with the two fighten squirrels comes to mind as I read this.
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That's not what eyesonice says...
It ends up costing our dnr 300 dor the day in man hours, gas, ect so the warden can hand out a $150 fine..... Our dnr is run by a bunch of goons...And the wardens that I have seen in action seem to be lacking in the common sense dept.....
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I have had a guy do that during a fishing contest. Another reason why I don' t enter contests any more.
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Thanks for all of the sharing on this topic. This season I had an aquaintance not necessarilly a friend taking my up flagged tip ups. After a couple times I was annoyed especially find out he did not even have his full amount of allowable tip ups out for himself.
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I could care less who grabs my tip up.... We rarely tip up fish but when we get them all set up first one to see it gets it or is closest to it, ect what ever, doesnt matter....I have caught enough fish in my life so I really dont care as long as the guy is from our group. The way some of you are complaining I am starting to think that some of you dont catch many fish ???
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whats up with all the bickering on IS now - a - days?? if you dont like what someone says in their post .. GO ON TO THE NEXT ::)
and i would have laughed at any warden who would give me a ticket for eating the last two bites of a sammy and throwing my coat on before going to a flag-i would see that douche in court and explain it to them so they could laugh at him too-maybe knock down his power trip.. and then i would already be at the courthouse for my trial for punching the flag napper in the jaw lol
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Our DNR is a joke.... They should be wiped out financially and start over from scratch......
Isn't that the truth!!! Start from scratch with new employees as well, most of them anyways. The one I met on a local 20 acre lake yesterday seemed to be nice and knowledgable when I asked him a few things about other local lakes. He also had a nice attitude when I couldn't find my fishing license right away...lol. It might have been towards the end of his shift too.
Matt
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whats up with all the bickering on IS now - a - days?? if you dont like what someone says in their post .. GO ON TO THE NEXT ::)
and i would have laughed at any warden who would give me a ticket for eating the last two bites of a sammy and throwing my coat on before going to a flag-i would see that douche in court and explain it to them so they could laugh at him too-maybe knock down his power trip.. and then i would already be at the courthouse for my trial for punching the flag napper in the jaw lol
Ahaha, gotta love it, a man with a sense of reality and a good sense of humor ;D
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Isn't that the truth!!! Start from scratch with new employees as well, most of them anyways.
Go up the ladder a few more rungs all the way to DC, then purge at will!
But back on topic, The bickering here seems to stem from initial posts starting a thread but lacking sufficient detail.
Spaded, you'd be lucky to have all 3 hearings on the same day but it would be one heck of a Hat-Trick! AND worth every penny of the fine for the Shiner (http://media.bigoo.ws/content/gif/smiles/smiles_124.gif) on his eye!!
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NOREASTER- i dont like to get into the drama. i just never ,ever,saw any nasty comments or ol lady pestering posts like some of these on here and in many other threads BEFORE i became a member... and i admit i was a long time lurker of IS before i became a member and now that i am a member and getting more involved in the IS community i see so many of em that i like to stick to my main threads and reply to the regulars of that room and try to stay out of "chit chat".. but unfortunately there are alot of good reads in the general forum..
and pike44- i thought the original post was hilarious just the way it was,i dont see how some people read that and got angered by it
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Funniest thing about this thread so far is that none of you armetures have commented on the guy writing a mistermeaner ticket.. ;D
Ya..I'm from the back woods, but back here even the amateurs write misdemeanors
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NOREASTER- i dont like to get into the drama. i just never ,ever,saw any nasty comments or ol lady pestering posts like some of these on here and in many other threads BEFORE i became a member... and i admit i was a long time lurker of IS before i became a member and now that i am a member and getting more involved in the IS community i see so many of em that i like to stick to my main threads and reply to the regulars of that room and try to stay out of "chit chat".. but unfortunately there are alot of good reads in the general forum..
and pike44- i thought the original post was hilarious just the way it was,i dont see how some people read that and got angered by it
I hear ya brother,some people just always see the glass half empty. Sometimes I wonder if a few of these guys are from "peta" posing as sportsman. and then some guy admits to ripping double trebles out of pike mouths and throats, and he's going to lecture me on leaving a circle hook in the water to long, lol. ::)Originaly, just wanted to know if anyone else ran into this, had no idea I would have to defend every detail of the thread. Oh well, probably wont bother posting again. To much agravation for me.
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I hear ya brother,some people just always see the glass half empty. Sometimes I wonder if a few of these guys are from "peta" posing as sportsman. and then some guy admits to ripping double trebles out of pike mouths and throats, and he's going to lecture me on leaving a circle hook in the water to long, lol. ::)Originaly, just wanted to know if anyone else ran into this, had no idea I would have to defend every detail of the thread. Oh well, probably wont bother posting again. To much agravation for me.
Been running into the same crap all over IS, was attacked on the VT boards for posting there by VT members, looking to provoke responses, all over a lame post about someguy whining about the accesses being plowed, in this the worst of winters in awhile. Last year I was attacked in PMs as well as posts because I pointed out a minnow trap was illegal for use in NH, as well as posting the daily limit for trapped bait(2 qts liquid). The year before I pointed out on the MA boards that they were only allowed one minnow trap unless they got a "Shiner Permit " from the state allowing them to use up to 10 traps, several of the posters bragged about big minnow hauls with multiple traps, couldn`t be bothered to check the regulations apparently. (i live in MA for a short time-don`t hold it against me JK) I immediately recieved PMs telling me noone cares about the rules, so mind my own business. Apparently John Q. Public is not only a moron, but a slob meat fisherman and a poacher, and let`s not forget internet tuff-guy.
I take pride in adhering to the rules and regulations, and am growing weary of defending myself to people who could care less about the future of the sport and the rules and regulations. I agree with the aggravation factor, but hope you remain a poster pike44. Don`t let the trouble mongers bother ya, they are mild amusement at best and quite frankly several of my dogs crap larger than the lot of em!
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I hear ya brother,some people just always see the glass half empty. Sometimes I wonder if a few of these guys are from "peta" posing as sportsman. and then some guy admits to ripping double trebles out of pike mouths and throats, and he's going to lecture me on leaving a circle hook in the water to long, lol. ::)Originaly, just wanted to know if anyone else ran into this, had no idea I would have to defend every detail of the thread. Oh well, probably wont bother posting again. To much agravation for me.
Been running into the same crap all over IS, was attacked on the VT boards for posting there by VT members, looking to provoke responses, all over a lame post about someguy whining about the accesses being plowed, in this the worst of winters in awhile. Last year I was attacked in PMs as well as posts because I pointed out a minnow trap was illegal for use in NH, as well as posting the daily limit for trapped bait(2 qts liquid). The year before I pointed out on the MA boards that they were only allowed one minnow trap unless they got a "Shiner Permit " from the state allowing them to use up to 10 traps, several of the posters bragged about big minnow hauls with multiple traps, couldn`t be bothered to check the regulations apparently. (i live in MA for a short time-don`t hold it against me JK) I immediately recieved PMs telling me noone cares about the rules, so mind my own business. Apparently John Q. Public is not only a moron, but a slob meat fisherman and a poacher, and let`s not forget internet tuff-guy.
I take pride in adhering to the rules and regulations, and am growing weary of defending myself to people who could care less about the future of the sport and the rules and regulations. I agree with the aggravation factor, but hope you remain a poster pike44. Don`t let the trouble mongers bother ya, they are mild amusement at best and quite frankly several of my dogs crap larger than the lot of em!
It's just words on the internet (and some of them are even spelled correctly) and shouldn't be taken that seriously.
The different POV's are what make message boards interesting.
I've been threatened with bodily harm on here... it made me laugh! ;D
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::) would be upset if someone picked up my flag if i didn't know them who does that
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I'm too old to chase every flag....it is always nice to see some "kid" land a fish...I just like being out there...my daughter goes with me most of the time and she gets to run after them all..."TeamLund"...you can set on the ice anytime with me...lol...hunts2long
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I was going to stay out of this but here goes. I laugh at people who run to there flags, 90% of the time the fish feel the footsteps and drop the bait, I leave it for a while and very slowly walk over to it. I can't believe all the do gooder internet ice fisherman who think it is bad to finish a sandwich before slowly walking out to your flag. Even in open water I let them have the bait for a while. If you are so worry over the fishes well being, maybe you shouldn't fish. Go join PETA.
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I've been threatened with bodily harm on here... it made me laugh!
GCD, wipe that Chit eatin' grin off your face! Don't make me come over there and hit you! :woot:
Running (away from danger, let alone to a flag) is no longer in my vocabulary. Not with my foot/ankle conditions. Just one of my orthotics cost more than my auger! If the fish are just 'dying' to be caught, they are just going to have to wait till I get there! ;)2
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Pike44,this post makes me think about the joke about the old bull and the young bull,looking down the hill at the group of young stock,and the young bull said lets run down,and the old bull said lets walk. You get my idea? Jerry
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I was going to stay out of this but here goes. I laugh at people who run to there flags, 90% of the time the fish feel the footsteps and drop the bait, I leave it for a while and very slowly walk over to it. I can't believe all the do gooder internet ice fisherman who think it is bad to finish a sandwich before slowly walking out to your flag. Even in open water I let them have the bait for a while. If you are so worry over the fishes well being, maybe you shouldn't fish. Go join PETA.
Apparently many are afraid to speak up for fear of posts like this one here. I got several PM's thanking me for my input and opinions on the topic, including some who didnt agree with my post in the thread but valued what I had to say and how I said it. Luckily I dont give two squirts what you think or say about me, I'm not going to cry myself to sleep over an internet thread.
You can care about your fisheries or not, and I think the vast majority on this site or just fishermen in general can and do. I care about mine and I will defend it vigilantly. I don't really care if that offends your sensitivities nor do I care how long you have been doing something a certain way for, that doesn't make it right.
Not once did I say you have to run to the flag, merely not to leave a tip up for "several minutes while eating your lunch". Those were my exact words in fact. Several minutes, I think we can all agree on that. If you are too ignorant or arrogant in your ways to agree that that is not a way to treat something I hold in such high regard, then there is not much I or anyone else is going to do to get through to you. Thankfully it did not happen the way he originally said it (or he changed his story to cover his butt).
If you do or say something stupid, you are going to get called out on it. I'm glad so many got mad, it means that what I have said has been thought about and taken to heart. Now, a box of kleenex for the tears this thread has caused you 3 or 4 vocal members that disagree with my stance, and the OP:
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Apparently many are afraid to speak up for fear of posts like this one here. I got several PM's thanking me for my input and opinions on the topic, including some who didnt agree with my post in the thread but valued what I had to say and how I said it. Luckily I dont give two squirts what you think or say about me, I'm not going to cry myself to sleep over an internet thread.
You can care about your fisheries or not, and I think the vast majority on this site or just fishermen in general can and do. I care about mine and I will defend it vigilantly. I don't really care if that offends your sensitivities nor do I care how long you have been doing something a certain way for, that doesn't make it right.
Not once did I say you have to run to the flag, merely not to leave a tip up for "several minutes while eating your lunch". Those were my exact words in fact. Several minutes, I think we can all agree on that. If you are too ignorant or arrogant in your ways to agree that that is not a way to treat something I hold in such high regard, then there is not much I or anyone else is going to do to get through to you. Thankfully it did not happen the way he originally said it (or he changed his story to cover his butt).
If you do or say something stupid, you are going to get called out on it. I'm glad so many got mad, it means that what I have said has been thought about and taken to heart. Now, a box of kleenex for the tears this thread has caused you 3 or 4 vocal members that disagree with my stance, and the OP:
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If you really care about your fishery, you'll lose those treble hooks and learn how to use circle hooks silvah. A lot less damaging to the fish, especially those "throwbacks".
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It seems the only thing you are upset about was that he was eating a sandwich? But it is ok if he wasn't, but just giving the fish time to take the bait? There are definitely more times than not where the fish will spit the bait if you don't give them a few minuets to take it, that is just the way it is fishing for pike.
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If you really care about your fishery, you'll lose those treble hooks and learn how to use circle hooks silvah. A lot less damaging to the fish, especially those "throwbacks".
lol, sure thing bud.
I will learn how to use hooks ASAP!
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lol, sure thing bud.
I will learn how to use hooks ASAP!
Did I mention they were Circle Hooks?... sure I did, it's in print where you quoted me.
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Funniest thing about this thread so far is that none of you armetures have commented on the guy writing a mistermeaner ticket.. ;D
Ya..I'm from the back woods, but back here even the amateurs write misdemeanors
Obviously your back woods education proves you are too stupid to follow a joke. Notice how everyone has been misspelling words in their posts on PURPOSE??? You dum armatuer
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Did I mention they were Circle Hooks?... sure I did, it's in print where you quoted me.
;D how about square ones?
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There are definitely more times than not where the fish will spit the bait if you don't give them a few minuets to take it, that is just the way it is fishing for pike.
Walleye pike...YES. Northern pike rarely spit the bait out if you walk quietly. I have been fishing for 35+ years and that is just the way it was and still is for fishing northern pike. Maybe you are walking a bit too loud, the way you hook your bait, or something else that is making you lose northern pike.
BTW, you should know better anyways being a WI resident also. To agree with the fact that pike44 went into his his AND closed the door when he knew he had a fish on the line, is leaving your line unattended AND illegal in WI. If you need to give the fish a few minutes to "take your bait", then WALK SLOWER. Take one step every 15-30 seconds. By the time you get there, it will be given plenty of time to accept your bait and still be following WI DNR laws regarding tending to your lines. I have been fishing for over 35 years this way and rarely lose a fish. So my suggestion to all those who think pike44 was correct in going back into his shack... try walking at a snail's pace to your flag. You will be happy with the results.
Matt
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If you really care about your fishery, you'll lose those treble hooks and learn how to use circle hooks silvah. A lot less damaging to the fish, especially those "throwbacks".
I've never had a fish swallow a treble in the last 10 years. Use the correct gear, catch your fish in time, and there will be no problems. The only people who need circle hooks are the ones who let the fish eat the bait for 10 minutes, then rely on the hook to come out of the stomach.
Trebles have been around much longer than circle hooks, so was the fishery in danger before the invention of circle hooks?
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I've never had a fish swallow a treble in the last 10 years. Use the correct gear, catch your fish in time, and there will be no problems. The only people who need circle hooks are the ones who let the fish eat the bait for 10 minutes, then rely on the hook to come out of the stomach.
Trebles have been around much longer than circle hooks, so was the fishery in danger before the invention of circle hooks?
Maybe they don't swallow them, but those trebles have a nifty way of getting into the gills eh? ::)
... and if you'll think about it, would you rather be stuck 3-6 times or just once?
Trebles are for people that can't get the hang of circle hooks, yes... you have to learn how to use a circle hook.
Trebles have been around much longer than circle hooks, so was the fishery in danger before the invention of circle hooks?
... as a matter of fact, some places require the use of circle hooks instead of "J" or trebles... and for a darn good reason. Can you guess what that reason is?
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... as a matter of fact, some places require the use of circle hooks instead of "J" or trebles... and for a darn good reason. Can you guess what that reason is?
So your soup doesn't get cold?
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I've never had a fish swallow a treble in the last 10 years. Use the correct gear, catch your fish in time, and there will be no problems. The only people who need circle hooks are the ones who let the fish eat the bait for 10 minutes, then rely on the hook to come out of the stomach.
Trebles have been around much longer than circle hooks, so was the fishery in danger before the invention of circle hooks?
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Not everybody is allowed to use live bait, if you bury a circle hook in a frozen mackeral your not going to catch a damn thing.
I could care less how anyone fishes but being an avid hardwater pike fisherman I do find it odd someone would knowingly let a fish swallow a hook that would very likely get into the stomach, I understand things may be different where you fish and if theres no large fish present or if you keep every pike you catch then I guess theres nothing wrong with it. We grow big gators up here and for that reason I would probably be pretty angry if I seen someone not respond to a popped flag, 100% C&R on the big girls. If your in a small lake just weeding out eater pike then I dont see anything wrong with this style of fishing, a mans gotta eat and different things work for different people.
FYI a treble set at the right time should never hit the girls or stomach, once shes done running set the hook!
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First off I think the guy that stole my flag would get and ear full from me. Then second off silvah don't come to montana then cause we can leave tip ups out unattended all night long in some places.
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First off I think the guy that stole my flag would get and ear full from me. Then second off silvah don't come to montana then cause we can leave tip ups out unattended all night long in some places.
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Maybe they don't swallow them, but those trebles have a nifty way of getting into the gills eh? ::)
... and if you'll think about it, would you rather be stuck 3-6 times or just once?
Trebles are for people that can't get the hang of circle hooks, yes... you have to learn how to use a circle hook.
... as a matter of fact, some places require the use of circle hooks instead of "J" or trebles... and for a darn good reason. Can you guess what that reason is?
Had one fish get the gill in as long as I can remember. Was an eager 10" bass that hit a #12 rapala crank trolling for pike, got the front hook in the gill plate. Didn't hurt a thing. I've caught fish missing gill plates and gills, so I dont think touching a gill with a hook is going to kill them.
Circle hooks are useless except for people who think they help them catch fish, or want to look like they know what they are doing. Set the hook when the fish bites and you will get them in the lip. I've even went to trebles on slips for walleye in the open water, now I dont have to let them eat it for 5 minutes. Bobber goes down, fish comes in the boat hooked in the top lip.
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Not everybody is allowed to use live bait, if you bury a circle hook in a frozen mackeral your not going to catch a damn thing.
I could care less how anyone fishes but being an avid hardwater pike fisherman I do find it odd someone would knowingly let a fish swallow a hook that would very likely get into the stomach, I understand things may be different where you fish and if theres no large fish present or if you keep every pike you catch then I guess theres nothing wrong with it. We grow big gators up here and for that reason I would probably be pretty angry if I seen someone not respond to a popped flag, 100% C&R on the big girls. If your in a small lake just weeding out eater pike then I dont see anything wrong with this style of fishing, a mans gotta eat and different things work for different people.
FYI a treble set at the right time should never hit the girls or stomach, once shes done running set the hook!
You either love or hate circle hooks, if you can't learn how to use them you'll hate them. They work with live, dead, or cut bait. Learn how to use circles and your catch rate will actually go up.
First off I think the guy that stole my flag would get and ear full from me. Then second off silvah don't come to montana then cause we can leave tip ups out unattended all night long in some places.
In a lot of places unattended means left for longer than 24 hrs. without checking, some places the time limit is 48 hrs.
If your regs don't give a time limit it can be sketchy.
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Unattended means you are not tending the device, whether it be a tip-up or a rod. So if you see you have a fish and do not tend it, that is a violation. Not watching it is not illegal unless stated in the regulations. It is stated here that you must be in sight of your tip-ups.
Seeing you have a bite, then going back into your shanty is not attending a device. In violation of unattended line rules.
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You either love or hate circle hooks, if you can't learn how to use them you'll hate them. They work with live, dead, or cut bait. Learn how to use circles and your catch rate will actually go up.
Whose saying I dont know how to use them? I believe they have a time and place but tipup fishing for pike where I live is not one of them, I generally only use them when fishing for food as I find they are prone to getting swallowed.
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I catch pike to eat them, there is no size limit where I fish, I don't care if the hook is coming out there @ss if they are to small to do a boneless fillet I pickle them.
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I don't care if the hook is coming out there @ss if they are to small to do a boneless fillet I pickle them.
You eat dinner after seeing the flag? I think you are letting them take it a little too long lol
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Whose saying I dont know how to use them? I believe they have a time and place but tipup fishing for pike where I live is not one of them, I generally only use them when fishing for food as I find they are prone to getting swallowed.
You should read this.
http://www.heyfish.com/tips_tricks/whycirclehooks.htm (http://www.heyfish.com/tips_tricks/whycirclehooks.htm)
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if he want,s to eat the last two bites of his sandwitch thats his busines.any law enforcement officer that would fine him for that watches way too mutch walker texas ranger.and that guy should not have touched his tip-up period!
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Here's my $0.02 worth
1. Agreed that if you had been fishing in WI, you would have a nice piece of stationary with Wisconsin DNR letterhead on it and a lighter wallet to go along with it.
2. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER do you touch someones gear before being told to do so. I've had guys fishing next to me ask if I could grab a flag for them if they were in the process of working on another tip-up or fish, no problem, but you don't just run over and start man handling other peoples gear, that will get you an ass kicking around here.
3. Giving a fish some time to get hooked up is not as bad as some are making it out to be, but I do think think a couple minutes (if we're actually talking more than 60 seconds here) seems a bit much. I don't think I've ever waited more than 30-45 seconds before going after it, and I don't lose many fish.
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I've had many, many, maybe hundreds of hit and runs over the years, and have tried everything from holding the tip-up in my hand after I've reset it, even held it in the air and had the flag go up and tried from immediately trying to set the hook, to waiting over 5 minutes (uh, oh, here it comes... :pinch: ) and sometimes the fish are finicky or just new generation 'educated fish' that have learned how to get the bait off the hook without getting caught.
We are hashing and rehashing one,, yeah ONE incident where someones hunger superseded a mad dash to a flag. Someone in a shack, coat on a nail, gloves on a heater, lunch in various stages of in hand or in mouth... and we, not having seen the situation firsthand, have the audacity to tell him he's in the wrong! Merely by his lack of detail or journalistic skill?
Give me a break!
Lively thread though, who would have imagined!! :whistle:
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I would have Nor Easter....This is the SHANTY, where everyone is right and everyone is wrong. On the same thread...
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Apparently many are afraid to speak up for fear of posts like this one here. I got several PM's thanking me for my input and opinions on the topic, including some who didnt agree with my post in the thread but valued what I had to say and how I said it. Luckily I dont give two squirts what you think or say about me, I'm not going to cry myself to sleep over an internet thread.
You can care about your fisheries or not, and I think the vast majority on this site or just fishermen in general can and do. I care about mine and I will defend it vigilantly. I don't really care if that offends your sensitivities nor do I care how long you have been doing something a certain way for, that doesn't make it right.
Not once did I say you have to run to the flag, merely not to leave a tip up for "several minutes while eating your lunch". Those were my exact words in fact. Several minutes, I think we can all agree on that. If you are too ignorant or arrogant in your ways to agree that that is not a way to treat something I hold in such high regard, then there is not much I or anyone else is going to do to get through to you. Thankfully it did not happen the way he originally said it (or he changed his story to cover his butt).
If you do or say something stupid, you are going to get called out on it. I'm glad so many got mad, it means that what I have said has been thought about and taken to heart. Now, a box of kleenex for the tears this thread has caused you 3 or 4 vocal members that disagree with my stance, and the OP:
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Hey whine a$$, I never changed my story, just gave more unnecessary detail. What is it with your personal attacks anyway? You called me tough guy several times on here. Do you have a problem with tough guys? Oh I know, you were that kid on the playground that always got the wedgies weren't you? ;) Well, I'm out of time to pick your claims apart, tip ups and venison sandwiches are loaded and I'm headed to sleep in my shanty for six nights and fish for seven days, (no computer).
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Hey whine a$$, I never changed my story, just gave more unnecessary detail. What is it with your personal attacks anyway? You called me tough guy several times on here. Do you have a problem with tough guys? Oh I know, you were that kid on the playground that always got the wedgies weren't you? ;) Well, I'm out of time to pick your claims apart, tip ups and venison sandwiches are loaded and I'm headed to sleep in my shanty for six nights and fish for seven days, (no computer).
I called you an internet tough guy (aka a little man hiding behind a computer talking like he is tough as nails). When you return I will teach you a lesson in how sarcasm works.
Enjoy your trip, and don't abuse the fish. They are one of our most valuable resources. :tipup:
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Not really, that wasn't his flag... nor his trap.
Sounds like your DNR has plenty of time and resources, if I see a CO more than once every 3 or 4 years I feel like I'm being spied upon.
I get checked at least once a month and have been checked as many as 4 times in one month. I have watched a warden sitting in a white camo teepee shaped tent watch people all day and radio info. to other wardens on snowmobiles to go tag them. It :tipup: was actually pretty comical to actuall watch it happen. Just by chance we say him in there hidden on the bank of the lake. I have perviously been told by a warden that even if my wife and I are together fishing I can not take all of the flags nor can she, I get 3 and she gets 3. I am allowed to set up and take all of them out though.
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There's only one reason I would EVER consider touching another persons tipup without their permission.
And thats to attach a crumpled beer can or some other foreign object to their hook and drop it back down when they're not paying attention. Oh, and then whap the flag with a snowball when they're not paying attention again. Hey, FLAG dude!
Sorry Gary... ;D
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it happened to us about 10 years ago .We chased the guy all the way to the hole screaming it's ours ,it's ours .He pulls out a nice bass and says sorry i thought it was mine.Boy did we give that guy a tongue lashing I think he
'll look twice at the tilt before he yanks out another one
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I get checked at least once a month and have been checked as many as 4 times in one month. I have watched a warden sitting in a white camo teepee shaped tent watch people all day and radio info. to other wardens on snowmobiles to go tag them. It :tipup: was actually pretty comical to actuall watch it happen. Just by chance we say him in there hidden on the bank of the lake. I have perviously been told by a warden that even if my wife and I are together fishing I can not take all of the flags nor can she, I get 3 and she gets 3. I am allowed to set up and take all of them out though.
It must suck to fish in your area, I haven't seen a warden in about 10 years.
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The time I got checked every weekend I was on 4 different lakes, the forth time the warden got out and just started laughing, "you guys again?" We just smiled and told him not to look under the snow pile, he just laughed. For the record, we hadn't had a flag at all that day. :tipup:
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It must suck to fish in your area, I haven't seen a warden in about 10 years.
That is not a good thing. Imagine how many poachers get away with the DNR never checking.
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So I don't mean to interrupt the internet boxing match we have here but here some things I think....
If the DNR was so concerned about a person response time to a flag wouldn't they make it mandatory to have an alarm or paging system on it?
If you personally are concerned with a fish swallowing your hook maybe you shouldn't use a tip up and use a rod and reel instead.
How do you know when your flag actually went up without an alarm type system so maybe it's already had time to take the bait?
Never touch someone else's property without permission no exceptions!
Personally when we are using tip ups we take turns landing flags but that's just within our party. Why not give everyone a chance to catch a fish but not strangers?
Thanks for the entertainment fellas! ;D
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Our DNR is a joke.... They should be wiped out financially and start over from scratch......
same here
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It must suck to fish in your area, I haven't seen a warden in about 10 years.
...take a day trip to our neck of the woods (north central wisconsin)...there's more dnr than there are county cops...okay maybe not but they seem to be everywhere! I pass at least one on my way to every lake.
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Had some clowns setup 10 feet from my tipups one of my last trips. Couldn't even see the flags because they totally blocked my view. Talked to them later and they didn't know what the tipups were. They thought they marked structure and since I was fishing near one they decided they would too!
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This came up on another forum I am on. This is our Alaska law right from the fish and wildlife troopers keyboard. Every state and province is different in regards to this,
Touching someone Else's gear is definitely a no no though.
Question:
In regards to the post about closely attended lines. When ice fishing can I use binoculars to check my traps if I can tell if the flag is up or down. I would be within binocular view and line of site at all times but the traps may be 500 yards or more away.
Answer: This is not as simple of an answer as I am sure you would like. There are several things that I must address before I can fully answer this question.
1. Depending on which type of fishing you are participating in (sport fishing, personal use fishing or subsistence fishing) and the lake you are fishing in, there are different regulations for each one.
2. Some lakes and river systems allow set lines for burbot and other species. Some areas allow gill nets and other methods and means to take fin fish.
In the interest of simplicity, the following answer is for a sport fisherman participating in sport fishing on a lake or river where two lines are allowed for ice fishing.
Sport fishing, Ice fishing Gear is defined in 5 AAC 75.021 (a) means sport fishing through the ice is permitted with the use of two closely attended lines, provided only one hook or artificial lure is used on each line, except that additional gear may be used for northern pike and burbot as specified by statewide or area regulations.
The term “closely attended” in this paragraph is defined in 5 AAC 75.995(40) and means that the line or strike indicator is within the view of and is accessible to the angler at all times. The word “accessible” means “easy to enter or reach physically”.
After reading all these defined terms, Alaska Wildlife Troopers who enforce this regulation must enforce the regulation the way it is written, but must also be reasonable with their enforcement standard. If the line is within view of the angler (the regulation does not specify distance) and is accessible to the angler (easy to reach physically) then it would be allowed.
Many times Troopers on patrol find ice fishing gear that is left out for days or no one is around. Anglers get bored and go riding snow machines. This is not allowed. If you cannot see your line and access your line you are in violation of the regulation.
In the situation where you wish to sit in your cabin and watch your line, this would be allowed as long as you can see the line from your cabin and you are able to reach it physically in a reasonable amount of time.
I hope this answers your questions.
Alaska Wildlife Troopers
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Think about it people, it's prolly an over zealous kid and a scraggly 33" Poike, have you not caught enough trophy Poike in your 30+years of trophy Poike fishing that you can't let a kid haul one in for you? Just think of the thrill you might give the kid, he may go back home and tell his buddies about the cool dude on the ice that let him pull in the largest Poike he's ever seen. Try to control yourselves on the ice, you just may make a friend or be a mentor! ;)
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I leave burbot sets out overnight when I go fishing for them. 100% legal .The lake is remote and no-one else is there though so no worries about theft. I also keep them all(no possesion limit where I live) for the fish fry.There is a limit on how many lines we can run though it is 15 for Burbot on the Kenai Peninsula Ak.
I once found some tip-ups someone left out and spotted them hidden behind the beginnings of a large snowman.
I picked them up so I did not get blamed for too many lines out. they never showed back up nor did anyone show up that day so I got 2 free tipups. Never did find out who they belonged to.
Other than a situation of lost/abandoned/illegal gear I will never touch another mans gear. I have advised them of a tip-up flag up but leave it at that.
Also we often let the kids chase the tip-ups and get more flags than we do and I don't have any problems with that.
BTW I often think lack of detail by the original poster leads to too much speculation on what really happened and people start to imagine many situations differently then they actually were. That's when we get off track.
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I leave burbot sets out overnight when I go fishing for them. 100% legal .The lake is remote and no-one else is there though so no worries about theft. I also keep them all(no possesion limit where I live) for the fish fry.There is a limit on how many lines we can run though it is 15 for Burbot on the Kenai Peninsula Ak.
I once found some tip-ups someone left out and spotted them hidden behind the beginnings of a large snowman.
I picked them up so I did not get blamed for too many lines out. they never showed back up nor did anyone show up that day so I got 2 free tipups. Never did find out who they belonged to.
Other than a situation of lost/abandoned/illegal gear I will never touch another mans gear. I have advised them of a tip-up flag up but leave it at that.
Also we often let the kids chase the tip-ups and get more flags than we do and I don't have any problems with that.
BTW I often think lack of detail by the original poster leads to too much speculation on what really happened and people start to imagine many situations differently then they actually were. That's when we get off track.
so,going off track is a bad thing?
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so,going off track is a bad thing?
Not at all. Just when it leads to name calling and bickering.
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Not at all. Just when it leads to name calling and bickering.
agreed! dont need that. but i have learned some tips &tidbits on this thread i wouldnt have even dreamt of asking.