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Title: Old technology.
Post by: A man called horse on Feb 07, 2019, 02:12 PM
Came across this yesterday. It cuts a core instead of shaving its way thru the ice. Seems it would take a lot less energy than augers. Wonder why nobody refined/updated the concept.

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Title: Re: Old technology.
Post by: 3300 on Feb 07, 2019, 02:23 PM
the concept is still used for anchor points, but has open ends.

this auger looks easy to get clogged.
Title: Re: Old technology.
Post by: SHUBA on Feb 07, 2019, 02:34 PM
Wonder how you would clear out the ice core
Im sure its not like a hole saw where you use
the drill bit to push out the wood core
Title: Re: Old technology.
Post by: lefty2053 on Feb 07, 2019, 02:45 PM
Would need a big can of Pam spray with you.
Title: Re: Old technology.
Post by: stinkyfingers on Feb 07, 2019, 02:59 PM
Came across this yesterday. It cuts a core instead of shaving its way thru the ice. Seems it would take a lot less energy than augers. Wonder why nobody refined/updated the concept.

(https://i.postimg.cc/tsYxLtyg/837-C4-D81-2-C39-40-CA-B830-5921-FC5-D715-C.png) (https://postimg.cc/tsYxLtyg)

Well, apart from being heavy just to lug around, you have the problem of extracting the "core". It either comes up with the auger or it stays in the hole. Either way it's something else to mess with. Frankly, the modern hand augers really don't require a lot of effort to spin. I'm holding out for the Daffy Duck Martian blaster ice auger.
Title: Re: Old technology.
Post by: BlueSnow on Feb 07, 2019, 06:07 PM
Also what would you do if the ice is thicker than the drum is deep?
Title: Re: Old technology.
Post by: icejohn on Feb 07, 2019, 06:54 PM
Give her a shot and let us know...  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Old technology.
Post by: Ice Scratcher on Feb 07, 2019, 07:05 PM
They had power auger versions of that too...

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Title: Re: Old technology.
Post by: river_scum on Feb 08, 2019, 08:56 AM
I have wondered about that for years! 
Title: Re: Old technology.
Post by: dogfish on Feb 08, 2019, 03:50 PM
They had power auger versions of that too...

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Now that is something to put in the man cave!!!!  Where do I get one?
Title: Re: Old technology.
Post by: perch chacer on Feb 09, 2019, 07:17 PM
Came across this yesterday. It cuts a core instead of shaving its way thru the ice. Seems it would take a lot less energy than augers. Wonder why nobody refined/updated the concept.
(https://i.postimg.cc/tsYxLtyg/837-C4-D81-2-C39-40-CA-B830-5921-FC5-D715-C.png) (https://postimg.cc/tsYxLtyg)
How did it work, the hand and gas version?
Title: Re: Old technology.
Post by: A man called horse on Feb 10, 2019, 08:52 AM
Basically like a woodworkers hole saw. Cuts a ring and core is captured in the sheet metal.
From my use of hole saws, they developed a lot of friction and get very hot. That would be a non issue or maybe even a plus for ice coring. Now that I think of it that’s how they sample glacial ice. They used fluids like kerosene with core drills to drill into Lake Vostok, over 13,000 ft. of ice. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Vostok. Talk about safe ice!
Title: Re: Old technology.
Post by: perch chacer on Feb 10, 2019, 08:36 PM
Basically like a woodworkers hole saw. Cuts a ring and core is captured in the sheet metal.
From my use of hole saws, they developed a lot of friction and get very hot. That would be a non issue or maybe even a plus for ice coring. Now that I think of it that’s how they sample glacial ice. They used fluids like kerosene with core drills to drill into Lake Vostok, over 13,000 ft. of ice. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Vostok. Talk about safe ice!
I assumed you have these core drill units.  I meant how did the core drills, gas and hand work for you on the ice?
Title: Re: Old technology.
Post by: A man called horse on Feb 10, 2019, 11:43 PM
Nope, do not have one, never saw one till it appeared on eBay.
Title: Re: Old technology.
Post by: Thearcher1340 on Feb 11, 2019, 05:53 AM
Basically like a woodworkers hole saw. Cuts a ring and core is captured in the sheet metal.
From my use of hole saws, they developed a lot of friction and get very hot. That would be a non issue or maybe even a plus for ice coring. Now that I think of it that’s how they sample glacial ice. They used fluids like kerosene with core drills to drill into Lake Vostok, over 13,000 ft. of ice. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Vostok. Talk about safe ice!

 Now u know ya gotta be the first to fish that virgin lake
Title: Re: Old technology.
Post by: Philip on Feb 11, 2019, 10:35 AM

 Now u know ya gotta be the first to fish that virgin lake

Gonna need a long transducer cable for that  ::)