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CK,Are you sure they're not there? We've got a lake in my neighborhood that sounds very similar. During the summer I can catch a limit with a rusty #6 hook and a gob of half dead worms on 12# test. During winter you need 1# test, a #16 marmooska in solid black (nothing else), a spring bobber, and infinite patience to catch a half dozen. They're big, so I do what I have to. It's taken me years to figure out their pattern. Maybe you've just got one of those frustrating lakes.kc17