this tip-up was a waste. took a long time and some modifacations to get it working. it is now just a back up or might give it to a friend if they buy bait for the trip. HT thermal tip-ups are way better, i love mine. i wouldnt take a southbend tip-up anymore if someone gave it to me, they are just too much hassle if fishing deeper water (20+ft.) but shallow water for burbot it works good but thats about it.