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i brined some jumbo shiners last year in the red color. dont waste your time, just fish natural bait. not worth it
Idk why people buy shiners. I use yellow and white perch or suckers. Those 4 inch silver turds are just money wasters
Where do you still find suckers?
fish 307 has them,but not legal in Vermont,what we need to do is get rid of these stupid bait laws
Keep in mind that even dead bait needs to have a "bait slip" with it, so you would need to buy live shiners, kill them, brine them and use them before your slip expired. Sounds like a PITA. We have good luck with live shiners.
Deadbaits that are preserved commercially by methods other than freezing are allowed. Which allows walmart to sell those emeralds you see stagnating on the shelf...you don't need a receipt for dead baits of that nature. Retain the commercial packaging so that if you are checked you can show the officer. Same loophole for Mass and NY and Ive had my sea herring checked in all 3 states.
I have caught perch, rockbass and pumpkinseeds on the emeralds, but other than the fact that they don't take up much space and are nearly indestructible for use if better bait is unavailable, their usefulness is limited.
For me its much easier to use deadbait. Especially long trips from CT to VT. Dont have to keep them alive. Fishing for pike with herring slows the fishing down a bit but the results are well...Awesome!
Lots of shorts ive heard. Doesnt interest me. The location of that small lake plus the amount of traffic it gets is a turn off for me. CT's eye fishery is rather limited.
Wondering if any of the Vermonsters have tried brining dead bait for pike. Pautzke makes all kinds of different colors of brine. If anyone has tried it just would like to know how it worked out. Thanks
This is a nice fish but what you are saying you are doing is illegal so I would be real careful posting about it on here. You can't use Herring as bait unfortunately.
Well then...if thats the case than EPO's in every New England state aside from Maine have been very nice to me. You should re-read the law. Also realize im talking sea herring not river herring. I appreciate your dramatic plea to be real careful btw (like Im going to end up in jail lmao). If I thought it was illegal or even in the gray I would not post. However I did my homework. Spoke with Fish and Game in MA,VT,NH and NY and subsequently am enjoying use of my commercially presevered baits (by means other than freezing) without issue.
You are correct. As long as its dead. I've been using leftover bunker up here and called fish and game as well. After explaiming what it was to them first LOL.
That’s not quite right unless your bunker was commercially prepared and in a package (basically pickled fish). Dead bait that isn’t commercially preserved isn’t actual legal, and yes there is confusion on this within F&W. See page number 33 http://www.eregulations.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/17VTFW-LR4.pdf
I dont want or need to be correct to be perfectly candid. However, I do follow the rules and this one works to my advantage. If you look, the states are similar in their verbiage. Walmart needs to sell those emeralds!(Does anyone even ever buy those at walmart?, seems like they've had them since I was a kid). I bring up the Walmart example repeatedly because the way they wrote that law is allowing them to sell those dead baits which at the end if the day are harmless just like the sea herring.Shivering Joe...."commercially by means other than freezing"..which means if I am a baitshop, have a tax ID, thats commercial....vaccume sealing is preserving by means other than freezing (this doesn't mean they cant be frozen it just means you cant just freeze them and call them "preserved"). This isnt that difficult to understand. I have a friend who owns a shop who did them for me (before I got addicted to jigging lakers). I had packaging and if needed the EPO could call him at his shop.
I emailed F&W to get a clarification. I hope I'm interpreting the rule wrong, i tried some of those pickled shiners from Dicks when fishing for burbot and they were disgusting and didn't work (not that live bait did either). Here is the text from the rule book: "Before being imported into Vermont, dead baitfish or fish eggs must be commercially processed in a manner that allows the product to be stored without refrigeration or freezing to maintain the unopened product. Imported dead baitfish or fish eggs must be retained in the original package at all times during importation and transportation."
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