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Title: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Jun 15, 2013, 09:56 PM
I picked up a 7x14 camper for $200.  It had a smashed in roof so I completely gutted it to the frame and started over.  I figured out how to make the wheels drop down on the winch system and pulled it 70 miles home and didn't have any issues with it, but it was just a bare frame. Hoping it will hold up with the shack on top of it.  Wishing I would have added more crossmembers under the floor, there are a few saggy spots but I will figure something out.  Still a lot to do but slowly making progress.  Can anyone help me with posting pictures? I tried the insert image but it just puts this (http://).  Once I figure out how to post pics I'll load a bunch of the progress I've made so far.

Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: da man cave shack on Jun 15, 2013, 10:03 PM
Sounds cool. As far as posting pictures Start a photobucket account and upload the pictures to there and then insert the image code from photobucket to here. Can't wait to see the pics.
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Jun 15, 2013, 10:12 PM
(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/Facebook/Mobile%20Uploads/856307_10100141393699542_2069399214_o.jpg?t=1371352217)
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Jun 15, 2013, 10:20 PM
(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/Facebook/Mobile%20Uploads/736975_10100141393894152_1375249963_o.jpg?t=1371352214)
(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/Facebook/Mobile%20Uploads/860316_10100141394053832_942302402_o.jpg?t=1371352211)
Demolition began
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(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/Facebook/Mobile%20Uploads/914130_10100181355565642_1604032114_o.jpg?t=1371352169)
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(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/Facebook/Mobile%20Uploads/463639_10100199269221532_1344527573_o.jpg?t=1371352129)

I was hoping to finish the walls yesterday but ran out of 2x4s so I'll finish that this week and get the roof framed up too. I was thinking about taking 2x6's and cutting an angle on them for a slope on the roof instead of trying to make trusses. Any suggestions? Or should I just go with a flat roof?
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: osiris on Jun 19, 2013, 10:25 PM
I prefer a sloped roof myself helps gaurentee to shed water and snow
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: chuckrudy on Jun 20, 2013, 08:58 AM
Looking good. :tipup: :tipup: :icefish:
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: combocamper on Jun 20, 2013, 02:39 PM
Looking nice.  Does the crank handle stick outside the box?  looks like it could be a knuckle buster cranking.
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Jun 21, 2013, 06:49 PM
It doesn't stick outside the box but I did leave 4 inches on top and the sides just so I wouldn't be busting knuckles on it.  I got the windows in today just to see how everything fit but had a bear break one Monday night so now I have to get that fixed.  Have been looking for steel siding all over but not having much luck.  Got an estimate from Menards and it was $550, just can't afford that right now so looking into alternatives.  Thought about 3/8" Plywood but know that will be extremely heavy.  Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: osiris on Jun 22, 2013, 08:34 PM
could use some 1/4" luan and paint it or hit it with polyurthane prob have to do it every year but should hold u over till u can get the tin or over up what youve done so far and save up for the rest of the materials, do u have any pics of what you had to do to complete the drop axle conversion
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Jun 22, 2013, 09:42 PM
I do, I will upload them to photobucket tomorrow after I get them off my phone.  It's not a perfect wheel system but it does raise and lower its just getting the bolt holes to line up is the problem.  I pulled it home doing 70 down the freeway from where I work after doing the conversion and it held up just fine.  Hoping that it will hold up going the 30 miles to the lake I want to put it on with all the weight of the shack on it now.  I may try to do some minor changes to that part of it after I finish the construction of it.

 I still need to crawl underneath and sure up the floor in a few places that sag when I step on it unless I put mending plates over the seams and just run carpet over the top of it.  I got the wiring done today minus the lights but I did three 12 volt outlets and three 110v outlets and ran the wire for each.  I might add a few more tomorrow around where the bunks are going to go.  Doesn't hurt to add them and not ever use them, all my electrical materials are leftovers from remodeling houses. I know its not a perfect shack but it is a good learning experience for me and now I'll know what to do next time.
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: mricefish on Jun 27, 2013, 10:34 PM
Looks like a nice build there, I am looking forward to seeing some pics of the drop axle too. 
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Jun 28, 2013, 05:00 PM
Got the insulation in and all the wiring done.  Can't do any interior work until I get the siding on and still haven't made a decision about that yet.  Here are a few pictures of what my wheel system is.
Before
(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20130318_191726_zps75d12ffb.jpg)

After
(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20130405_171456_zps2202501e.jpg)
(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20130405_171507_zps0e0ae6c0.jpg)
(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20130405_171513_zps6ccbc29a.jpg)
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: osiris on Jun 30, 2013, 12:41 AM
Looks good for the most part but I would be concerned about the forces on the leaf spring and U bolts, I would stick the leaf spring in some square tubing and weld on the spindle that should hold everyting good and square and minimize the flex your getting now and be alot more road safe
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: da man cave shack on Jul 11, 2013, 10:46 PM
Any progress?
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: Rwolff on Jul 12, 2013, 06:21 AM
Looks good! As far as siding for it, if you have any company's in your area that build poll sheds try giving them a call. A lot of times they will keep stock of some or have some left over from jobs. Also I've seen people on Craig's list either selling some real cheap or giving it away. Just a thought.
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Jul 12, 2013, 07:59 AM
Not much progress as of late. I ordered the siding from Menards and I just got it yesterday and will start putting it on today I hope.  Can't do any interior work until the outside is done so it doesn't get wet and get ruined.  I'll get pictures posted once I get some siding on.  I went with black siding and galvanized trim and roof.
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: da man cave shack on Jul 12, 2013, 04:18 PM
A tip with the metal siding is if you can get a person to help you it makes it's whole lot less frustrating.
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Jul 14, 2013, 08:19 AM
Made some progress with the siding yesterday, but I did mess up a few times, might need to order an extra sheet to make up for it.  Oh well, its a learning experience.  I've never done steel siding before so I figured I'd mess up at some point.  Going to try to get the siding and roof on this week, still waiting for some glass for one of the camper windows that a bear broke so I can't side finish siding until I get that back.  After siding and the roof gets on I'll start on the interior, going to use 1/4" luan for the walls and ceilings.

(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/Facebook/Mobile%20Uploads/919340_10100216278230342_1338949250_o.jpg?t=1373807676)
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: Rwolff on Jul 14, 2013, 08:42 AM
Looking good! Can't wait to see how it turns out
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Jul 21, 2013, 10:20 PM
Well I basically finished the siding and roof today.  Just need to finish screwing it all down but ran out of screws.  I think it turned out pretty good for my first attempt and it and doing it myself.  Once I make sure it's water tight I'll start on the inside which shouldn't be too bad. I plan on doing the paneling first then finish wiring lights etc. then start building the bunks and carpet.  Any advice on carpet? I was just going to use marine carpet that I used on my boat.  Other things I should be aware of before starting anything? Tips or tricks?
(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/Facebook/Mobile%20Uploads/1073156_10100221490978952_1237480922_o.jpg?t=1374463090)
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: mr.clean on Jul 22, 2013, 01:48 AM
Looks good are you going to put any kind of coating in the wheel well/crank area I think snow will build up when traveling down the road. Also does not the wiring go in first with insulation covered with paneling maybe I'm misunderstanding your post.
Steve
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: da man cave shack on Jul 22, 2013, 07:38 AM
When up panel it keep the paneling about an inch off of the floor to help keep it from wanting to absorb water. And it looks great. The black should help solar heat it. Keep up the good work. ;D
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Jul 22, 2013, 08:06 AM
Yeah I'm going to put bedliner on the wheel area and wrap some of it with aluminum flashing to keep moisture outof there. The plan is to angle some flashing from directly behind the wheel to below the winch to allow for drainage, just haven't gotten there yet.  All the wiring and insulating are already done. I was planning on holding the luan up an inch and running some of that stick on rubber base molding around the whole thing to finish it off, unless you have some other suggestions on how to finish it.  Hope to be working on the inside by next week.
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: Lavman on Jul 22, 2013, 09:30 AM
Coming along really nicely. I like the color scheme :tipup:
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: Rebelss on Jul 22, 2013, 10:07 AM
Looks good for the most part but I would be concerned about the forces on the leaf spring and U bolts, I would stick the leaf spring in some square tubing and weld on the spindle that should hold everyting good and square and minimize the flex your getting now and be alot more road safe

Absolutely. Don't mean to pick, but...basically what is supporting your axle are 2 leaf spring bolts. Combined with the flex in the leaves, up and down movement, and cold steel, I wouldn't trust that set-up for a minute. It's an accident waiting to happen. Get yourself a regular axle spindle and tubing and weld it across the frame.  Use grade #8 stainless bolts at the leaf posts. You'll also have a stronger frame and less torsional flex, too.
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Jul 22, 2013, 06:24 PM
I've been looking into the wheel system trying to figure out how to make it work with my frame and already having the shack built on top.  I only have 33" from the base of the winch to the front of the wheel well so it might take a little engineering.  If I got some 2x4x1/4" tubing and put a 1" bolt as the pivot point in front how could I make it lock down by the winch? I have seen the ones with the leaf springs inside the tube but I think that would be too long for my area.  I found these spindles at Northern Tool and was wondering if I could just weld these into that tubing?  http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200365118_200365118 (http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200365118_200365118)

Tips or suggestions without having to redo everything?
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: Rebelss on Jul 22, 2013, 06:32 PM
Depends on your tubing and what you want to use...I'd take pics with a digital camera and measurements, then take them to a welding shop. You can run through the pics and measurements, and get some suggestions from the shop. My buddy owns a welding shop, and he does this stuff all the time, makes lots of custom trailers and apps for people out of aluminum, steel, whatever you want to use. Best to know what your gross loaded weight will be for a minimum guideline. Let us know how it goes and good luck, you've got time yet before ice!  ;D
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Jul 27, 2013, 09:02 PM
Went and picked up most of the interior stuff today and started working on that tonight.  Got the ceiling put up and three wall pieces.  Will probably finish that tomorrow or Monday and then put down the marine carpet I got. Then onto trim and building all the bunks and finishing stuff.  I'm still deciding if I want to get a wall mount heater or just use my big buddy and be able to move it around.  Here are a couple pictures of the interior from today.

(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20130727_203045_zps1faf0752.jpg?t=1374976724)
(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20130727_203026_zps48db263b.jpg?t=1374976771)
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Jul 28, 2013, 06:40 PM
Got all the paneling up and the carpet installed today.  The dinette cushions are going to get reupholstered with black fabric.

(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20130728_173122_zpsd204b201.jpg?t=1375051120)
(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20130728_153722_zpsda28aa10.jpg?t=1375051070)
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: Chris338378 on Jul 28, 2013, 06:50 PM
It looks good and you're making lots of progress fast.
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: da man cave shack on Jul 28, 2013, 10:55 PM
Man that looks good. ;D How did you srcure the paneling?
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: mr.clean on Jul 29, 2013, 03:06 AM
Very nice work like the dinette area . The two holes that are close together will one be used for a flasher ? You will have one great shanty when you get finished with all of your work.
Steve
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: chuckrudy on Jul 29, 2013, 07:56 AM
Looking good.  Keep the pictures coming. :tipup: :icefish:
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Jul 29, 2013, 09:06 PM
The two holes close together can either be for a flasher or two people fishing in shallow water.  I'm making a bench that folds down into a bed on that back wall.  Just didn't really know where to  put the 4th hole so it was usable and not sit in a weird spot so that's where it ended up. I fastened the paneling up with 1 1/4" drywall screws at the corners and along the top and bottom then came back with a narrow crown stapler and went down the rest of the studs just to hold it tight against the wall.  I'm going to trim out the whole thing tomorrow hopefully with black 1/2"x 1 1/2" strips painted black on all the seams and along the top and bottom just to finish it off. Will take some more pictures tomorrow hopefully when I get that done.
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: da man cave shack on Jul 29, 2013, 10:06 PM
Good idea on using srews were you can hide them with trim. That was the biggest delema I couldn't figure out how to get around, is how to hold the paneling up but not make $400 in paneling full of screws. Thanks
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Jul 30, 2013, 08:23 AM
Yeah, when I was putting the screws in I was careful to get them as close to the edges as possible so I wouldn't have screws showing.  I had originally planned on doing something a little more fancy for the walls but after comparing prices I went with just luan.  $11 a sheet vs $20+ for the other stuff, couldn't justify it for an ice shack.
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Jul 31, 2013, 09:57 PM
Got a lot of the interior trim done today and the back bench/bunk made. Going to figure out the suspension the next couple days so I can road test it afterwards.
(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20130731_150956_zpsad81df89.jpg?t=1375323298)
(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20130730_152035_zpsbe75b814.jpg?t=1375240582)
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: osiris on Aug 01, 2013, 01:38 AM
I scored a empire dv 35 on ebay for $300 a while ago its worth searching for a cheap used one for the shack i like it alot better then the other wall mount non vented in my other shack plus no condensation issues anymore
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: mr.clean on Aug 01, 2013, 03:34 AM
I like the trim ,also seeing the bench/bed installed now understand the hole placement.
Steve
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: chuckrudy on Aug 01, 2013, 08:02 AM
Looking good. :tipup: :icefish:
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: SoDakdick on Aug 01, 2013, 02:06 PM
It looks great!
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Aug 02, 2013, 03:55 PM
Basically got all the trim done today and the dinette area wrapped up. Still need to make some 12v outlet covers and figure out shelves etc in the front.  Going to get a few cabinets to hang above the stove area for cooking stuff and a few for other places in the shack to throw random stuff.

(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20130802_154618_zpsfbdd3961.jpg?t=1375476653)
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: GOOSE_EGG on Aug 08, 2013, 01:28 PM
i like it!
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: Chris338378 on Aug 08, 2013, 07:37 PM
I like the contrast between the natural colored paneling and the black trim pieces.
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: Relheok on Aug 10, 2013, 03:19 AM
Looks great.... That weight on the springs does look like you may get some warping and bending possibly
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Sep 30, 2013, 11:42 AM
Got the heater installed this weekend along with the stove plumbed and start reupholstering. 

Here is one of the camper cushions redone.
(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20130928_142313_zpse5e9e946.jpg) (http://s1323.photobucket.com/user/Dan_Buchmann/media/20130928_142313_zpse5e9e946.jpg.html)

Here is the furnace hooked up.
(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20130928_091804_zps4060d29f.jpg) (http://s1323.photobucket.com/user/Dan_Buchmann/media/20130928_091804_zps4060d29f.jpg.html)

Had a leak in one of the windows that I finally got fixed and started building cabinets for above the stove.  I'm going to get the wiring done once I put the boat away (using my 3 batteries from that).  Will post more pictures once I get all the upholstering and cabinets in.
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: da man cave shack on Sep 30, 2013, 01:22 PM
Nice! Is that a pro-com ice house heater ?
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Sep 30, 2013, 09:06 PM
Da Man Cave, yes it is. Got it at Menards for $119, same price everywhere I looked. I let it run on medium for 10 minutes and cooked myself out of the shack.  Obviously it was warm outside but it puts out a ton of heat.
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: da man cave shack on Sep 30, 2013, 09:50 PM
Cool I have been planing on getting the same one for in my shack and was just wondering does it turn it self on and of like a furnace would or does it just run non stop.
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Oct 01, 2013, 02:56 PM
That I'm not sure of. I did read some stuff online about it and people say it has a built in thermostat and shuts down when the temp is reached. I will run it tonight and see what happens.
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: Rebelss on Oct 01, 2013, 04:00 PM
Fleet Farm has the Buddy vent-free, 10,000 BTU heater on sale this week for $98.88, looking at the ad now, might want to check that out, too. Not as big as the Pro-Com, but might work for ya.
AND...they have the 30,000 BTU Pro-Com with T/stat on sale for $159.99.  ;D

http://www.fleetfarm.com/detail/Mr.-Heater-10-000-BTU-Buddy-Wallmount-Vent-Free-Gas-Heater/0000000006743?gclid=CImUjrPD9rkCFeIRMwodvhsAsQ

http://www.fleetfarm.com/detail/Pro-Com-30-000-BTU-Dual-Fuel-Vent-Free-Garage-Heater/0000000006740?gclid=CNOjsI7F9rkCFbFDMgodT0kALQ
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: da man cave shack on Oct 01, 2013, 05:33 PM
Fleet Farm has the Buddy vent-free, 10,000 BTU heater on sale this week for $98.88, looking at the ad now, might want to check that out, too. Not as big as the Pro-Com, but might work for ya.
AND...they have the 30,000 BTU Pro-Com with T/stat on sale for $159.99.  ;D

Thanks I will have to take a look at it.

http://www.fleetfarm.com/detail/Mr.-Heater-10-000-BTU-Buddy-Wallmount-Vent-Free-Gas-Heater/0000000006743?gclid=CImUjrPD9rkCFeIRMwodvhsAsQ

http://www.fleetfarm.com/detail/Pro-Com-30-000-BTU-Dual-Fuel-Vent-Free-Garage-Heater/0000000006740?gclid=CNOjsI7F9rkCFbFDMgodT0kALQ
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: Rebelss on Oct 01, 2013, 06:15 PM
Let us know what you decide... ;)
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: da man cave shack on Oct 03, 2013, 10:09 PM
Did you ever try the heater.
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: da man cave shack on Oct 04, 2013, 12:49 PM
Sorry reb I decided to go with the pro com ice house heater.
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: Rebelss on Oct 04, 2013, 01:05 PM
Sorry reb I decided to go with the pro com ice house heater.

Nothing to apologize for, DMCS! Just wanted to help ya out! Did ya get it on sale?
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: da man cave shack on Oct 04, 2013, 01:13 PM
Nothing to apologize for, DMCS! Just wanted to help ya out! Did ya get it on sale?

Actualy I did get it on sale at norther tool for $119.99 compared to 139.99 at menards.
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: Rebelss on Oct 04, 2013, 01:29 PM
Yow...! That's a great price!  :o
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Oct 06, 2013, 09:20 AM
Got the other bench and back bench/bed upholstered this morning.  I got the material at Walmart, it's outdoor stuff for $4.97/yd.  It wipes down really easily and is waterproof so hopefully it will hold up. One more to do side bench to do and possibly a flip up to turn that into a bed also.  Going to be finishing the cabinets this week and then hanging them soon. 

This folds into a bed...
(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20131006_090407_zps9b94c081.jpg?t=1381068720)
Back bench up
(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20131006_090246_zpsf3aae239.jpg?t=1381068788)

Back bench into a bed
(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20131006_090400_zps913014e8.jpg?t=1381068754)
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: OldSailor on Oct 06, 2013, 09:35 AM
What else do you have to do once you have the cabinets hung?? It's looking really good!!  :thumbsup: :icefish:
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: P Meyette on Oct 06, 2013, 03:05 PM
nice looking
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Oct 06, 2013, 08:32 PM
After the cabinets are up all I have left is some minor trim work, a few shelves and make some rod holders.  I do have to finish the wiring once I put the boat away and take the batteries out of it.  Other than that, I have a friend that makes custom decals so I'm going to get some fish decals made and some ice fishing ones for the inside.  Might try to find a TV to put in there.  I think once I have it out on the ice I may make a few changes or add some things but for now, it's just about done. 
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Oct 10, 2013, 07:41 PM
Got the main cabinet finished and installed today.  Hope it holds everything I need in the kitchen area.

(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20131010_114236_zps616cc327.jpg?t=1381432978)

Not the best picture...
(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20131010_191523_zps8f88f12b.jpg?t=1381450694)
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: IceCrafty on Oct 11, 2013, 12:25 PM
Looking Great can't wait to see the finished product.
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: OldSailor on Oct 11, 2013, 01:15 PM
Looking Great can't wait to see the finished product.
X2----Any idea on the finished weight ??? It's going to be great to fish out of!!!  :thumbsup: :icefish:
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Oct 11, 2013, 02:22 PM
Not sure of the weight. I'm guessing about 1500lbs. I'm going to take it down to our highway department and put it on the scale once I get it done.  It will be really nice to fish out of.  I am a shop teacher and started a fishing club last year and we do a lot of ice fishing.  It will be nice to get the kids out and be more comfortable especially on the cold days.  I also take a lot of kids fishing from my church so it should be more enjoyable for them too.
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: OldSailor on Oct 11, 2013, 02:45 PM
Not sure of the weight. I'm guessing about 1500lbs. I'm going to take it down to our highway department and put it on the scale once I get it done.  It will be really nice to fish out of.  I am a shop teacher and started a fishing club last year and we do a lot of ice fishing.  It will be nice to get the kids out and be more comfortable especially on the cold days.  I also take a lot of kids fishing from my church so it should be more enjoyable for them too.
Look under my Avatar!! "Take a kid fishing. Pay it forward"!! They are the future of our sport!!! Thanks!!!!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Oct 16, 2013, 08:11 PM
Got some things cleaned up, some decals made and made a new drawer/counter.

New drawer/counter I made

(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20131016_180600_zpsc30a6b2c.jpg?t=1381964966)

Decals on the walls

(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20131016_180544_zpsd5108906.jpg?t=1381964997)

(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20131016_180534_zps84e74f6d.jpg?t=1381965024)

(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20131016_180522_zps5cc3a88c.jpg?t=1381965055)
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: osiris on Oct 16, 2013, 08:57 PM
looking good did u ever figure out the axle setup ???
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Oct 16, 2013, 09:09 PM
Yeah I have everything welded up except the 1 1/2" bars into the frame, doing that this weekend hopefully. I'll post pictures when I get it done
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Oct 27, 2013, 11:05 AM
I got everything welded up yesterday but now have an issue with hole alignment.  I didn't account for how much the springs would flex under the weight of the shack so now I'm about a 1/2" off on my holes.  Any suggestions on what I can do? Thought about a new hole in front of the old one and just running a bolt across the leaf spring instead of through it but there there would be play in it.  Here is a picture of the misalignment.   I also built some cup holders/shelves for it and installed those.

(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20131027_103333_zpsc7c6c208.jpg?t=1382889552)

(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20131025_172900_zps43533a53.jpg?t=1382889592)

(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20131025_172852_zps4fbd4220.jpg?t=1382889651)

(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20131025_172816_zpse33234dc.jpg?t=1382889504)

Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: osiris on Oct 31, 2013, 02:42 AM
U could just weld the holes shut and redrill the holes or make new mounts cut off the old ones #2 is my vote
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: IceCrafty on Oct 31, 2013, 10:53 PM
U could just weld the holes shut and redrill the holes or make new mounts cut off the old ones #2 is my vote

I agree with the cut the old ones off and install new. just wait to drill the holes until you ready to put the pin in
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: ultraguy on Nov 01, 2013, 05:24 AM
Or you could just weld a new plate over the old holes and redrill new holes. Use longer Grade 8 bolts.

Poorboy
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Nov 01, 2013, 08:26 AM
Going to be drilling some new holes today if the rain lets up. Thanks for the help. Last night I got all the wiring done and hooked up to the batteries.  Going to be adding a few things here and there but for the most part it is done.
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: damdiver on Nov 01, 2013, 04:47 PM
Load it full of gear, ice auger, few buddies and lots of beer before drilling!
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Nov 13, 2013, 08:48 PM
Built some rattle reels over the weekend and installed them tonight.

(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20131113_192418_zps255a3931.jpg?t=1384395962)

(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20131113_192348_zps121da6d6.jpg?t=1384396022)

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Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: P Meyette on Nov 13, 2013, 09:23 PM
very nice looking on the inside you used your space well
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: Justcuz on Nov 19, 2013, 09:41 AM
What are the dimensions of you back wall bench/bed. Also what supports it, it looks like 2x2's along the side. It lookd great
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Nov 19, 2013, 09:20 PM
The rear bench is just over 6 feet long by 32 inches wide when folded down.  It is 3/4" plywood with a 2x2 frame underneath it connected in the middle with 3 hinges. The bottom cushion is attached right to the base but the upper two are removeable so when it folds up or down there isn't a space between the cushions.  It is supported with 2x2's on either side screwed into the studs.  It does sag a little in the middle if more than one person is sitting on it so I might add a little extra bracing on it eventually.
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: Justcuz on Nov 19, 2013, 11:31 PM
I am just looking to build something like that in my hut. This way I can sit ad fish, then take a nap when I need to. Can you take another pic of the bench?
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Nov 20, 2013, 10:14 AM
I'll get some pictures of it tonight.  Anything specific you want to see?
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: Justcuz on Nov 20, 2013, 10:41 AM
Mostly just what your support frame, like the sides and back.

Thanks a lot
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: Justcuz on Nov 20, 2013, 10:48 AM
I hate to ask but, what are the dimensions of you real nice looking rod holder
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Nov 20, 2013, 06:02 PM
The rod holder is 17" long.  If I was going to build it over I would have made the counterbore where the rod butt sits a little smaller so its a snug fit, but I'll do.  Its hard to get good pictures now that everything is together and in place but the bench is just 2x2s going the length with 3/4" plywood over it.  Right now I'm working on making a coat rack in the shape of a walleye outline should have that done by the weekend but it is our gun deer season starting Saturday so not sure when I'll get it installed.  Feel free to keep asking questions.
(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20131120_175350_zps559e2f38.jpg?t=1384991808)

Hard to see but three hinges joining the bench together.
(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20131120_175324_zps43b95521.jpg?t=1384991837)

Sorry that it's blurry but here is the 2x2 rail on the back side of the bench.
(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20131120_175316_zpsa830d3d6.jpg?t=1384991862)

Supports on either end of bench just screwed into studs. 
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Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: J_Jaacks on Nov 27, 2013, 09:17 PM
So I got a frame question. Is this heavier than the camper and did you beef up the frame? Also, could you have used the furnace from the camper instead of buying another one? This really looks promising.
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Nov 27, 2013, 09:46 PM
I really don't know if it is heavier than the camper was.  I would assume its not since I ripped so much out of it.  I really didn't beef up the frame, only where my pivot points for the suspension is. I guess I could have used the camper furnace that was in there but it was vented through the roof and I really didn't want anything going through the roof/walls due to it most likely leaking, the new furnace is vent free. 
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: Justcuz on Nov 27, 2013, 11:20 PM
I really like your heater. I live in ontario and cant find them. Right now I hav a kerosene heater which pumps out the heat, but takes up a lot of room.
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: J_Jaacks on Nov 28, 2013, 09:23 AM
I really don't know if it is heavier than the camper was.  I would assume its not since I ripped so much out of it.  I really didn't beef up the frame, only where my pivot points for the suspension is. I guess I could have used the camper furnace that was in there but it was vented through the roof and I really didn't want anything going through the roof/walls due to it most likely leaking, the new furnace is vent free.
Thanks for the answers. I really like your build and think that is something that I could do. Also, I see you didn't do a drop hitch, so does that mean you will have to unhook to raise and lower? Thanks for the help. You definitely got me thinking about this.
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Nov 28, 2013, 10:55 AM
I got my heater off of Northern Tool.  I originally got one from Menards but it didn't have the thermostat like this one does.  I didn't put a drop hitch on it because I just plan to leave it out on my walleye spot pretty much the entire winter, won't be moving it much. 
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: Justcuz on Nov 28, 2013, 10:18 PM
Do you have bench supports on thr back wall as wee as the sides?
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Dec 17, 2013, 08:07 PM
Added some computer fans and stocked the cabinets.  Going to get it out on the ice this weekend and hopefully be pulling in some fish over my Christmas break

(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/Facebook/Alaska%20Part%202/20131217_191254_zps1rfnhck5.jpg)
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Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: da man cave shack on Dec 17, 2013, 10:00 PM
Looks good now all ya need is the liquid refreshments and to post some pics of it on the ice. ;D
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: gooner on Dec 17, 2013, 10:15 PM
Looks awesome. I wish I could find a really cheap camper to do this to.
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Dec 18, 2013, 08:47 AM
Just look on Craigslist or stop and talk to people if they have them sitting in their yards.  I bought mine from a guy that just had it sitting next to the road and it wasn't for sale.  Picked it up for $200 and have put about $1800 into it.  I have thought about selling it and building another one but we'll see.  I'll get some pictures of it out on the ice this weekend, I can't wait.
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: sholbroo76 on Dec 18, 2013, 07:56 PM
How well do the computer fans work to move the air? I have a similar furnace, my shack is 7 feet tall and the top few feet hold all the heat.  I was thinking of putting a computer fan in a pipe that would suck air down and out at my feet, but maybe a fan by its self would work.
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Dec 18, 2013, 08:23 PM
They seem to move the air pretty well.  I haven't really turned the heat on after installing them but will this weekend once I get it on the lake. I will report back on how they do. 
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: sholbroo76 on Dec 21, 2013, 08:51 AM
Thanks
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Dec 23, 2013, 09:17 AM
Got the shack out on the lake yesterday with only a few minor problems but its there! Did manage to catch three walleyes last night out of it too which is always a good thing.  The fans do keep the air moving quite well.  It was 16 degrees outside and 66 inside the shack, but the floor was cooler.  Did notice once I got to the lake that my wheels had a bad camber on both.  Going to do some investigating today when I get back out on the ice. Don't know why it's doing that
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: da man cave shack on Dec 23, 2013, 09:24 AM
You may have to get some tires rated for more weight. And if you take one of those fans and connect it to a piece of flexible duct pipe that goes down to the floor it will help keep the floor warm.
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Dec 24, 2013, 09:26 AM
Here are some on ice pictures.

(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20131222_174748_zps2j2lg3bu.jpg)
(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20131222_174815_zpsorldenzb.jpg)
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Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: da man cave shack on Dec 24, 2013, 10:11 AM
Very nice!
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: racer25r on Dec 24, 2013, 04:23 PM
nice!
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: vtbuckrulrss on Dec 24, 2013, 09:17 PM
Very nice job, but I have a few questions.. Did you ever find out what it weighed?  I am curious, I have this heater..http://www.procomheaters.net/infrared-heaters/ml100hpa.html.. and guys on here were saying that it was dangerous to use in my mini camp ( which is very airtight with two windows only.  Shiplap standing up on the outside, layed down on the inside.) , because I may gas myself.  Does anyone know what the difference between the two is as far as safety?
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: Old Guy Dan on Jan 01, 2014, 06:41 PM
Nice Shanty!
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: PondPerchPounder on Jan 09, 2014, 11:50 AM
I'm sitting in total aww at the awesome job that you did!! Me and my buddy always talked about building a shack but never got to it!!
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Jan 09, 2014, 08:12 PM
Thanks! I did put a lot of time and effort into it.  Having a few condensation issues in it so the paneling is getting water spots/stains on it so I'll have to fix that soon.  I have roughly $2000 into it.
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: IceFishingNate on Jan 23, 2014, 07:33 PM
Just wondering where u got those sweet decals from?  Really interested in getting some
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: P Meyette on Jan 23, 2014, 07:46 PM
looks like you are enjoying your home away from home
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: thewyler on Jan 23, 2014, 10:22 PM
Just wondering where u got those sweet decals from?  Really interested in getting some
Here they are
http://www.identicards.com/productcart/pc/Freshwater-c477.htm?pageStyle=h&ProdSort=19&page=3&idCategory=477&viewAll=yes
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Jan 24, 2014, 09:06 PM
I have a friend who makes them for me.  I have been enjoying my shack.  The fishing has slowed down a lot but I just sit out in it and play cards or watch movies while I have tip ups out.  None of the other local lakes are accessible by truck so it'll be there until it's time to pull them off. 
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: vtbuckrulrss on Mar 01, 2014, 02:10 PM
What was your finished weight?
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: dbuchmann on Apr 12, 2014, 08:14 AM
So I'm thinking about selling the shack and building a new one this summer.  I have a number in mind of what I'd like to get out of it but just wondering what you guys think it is worth. It is 8x14, look through the pictures to see what the interior is like and post what you think its worth.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: thewyler on Apr 17, 2014, 10:51 AM
22 hundred max
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: da man cave shack on Apr 28, 2014, 01:38 PM
I would go with a $2000 obo price tag and take no less than $1600
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: Budweiser on Sep 17, 2020, 09:51 AM
I got everything welded up yesterday but now have an issue with hole alignment.  I didn't account for how much the springs would flex under the weight of the shack so now I'm about a 1/2" off on my holes.  Any suggestions on what I can do? Thought about a new hole in front of the old one and just running a bolt across the leaf spring instead of through it but there there would be play in it.  Here is a picture of the misalignment.   I also built some cup holders/shelves for it and installed those.

(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20131027_103333_zpsc7c6c208.jpg?t=1382889552)

(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20131025_172900_zps43533a53.jpg?t=1382889592)

(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20131025_172852_zps4fbd4220.jpg?t=1382889651)

(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u582/Dan_Buchmann/20131025_172816_zpse33234dc.jpg?t=1382889504)
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: Budweiser on Sep 17, 2020, 09:55 AM
do you have any pictures of your axle setup ?  and how did they work out ? just reading about it now. want to convert mine to the outside and think this will work. just would like some pictures if you have some please.
Title: Re: Camper to Drop Down Ice Shack Conversion
Post by: hardwater diehard on Sep 17, 2020, 10:46 AM
do you have any pictures of your axle setup ?  and how did they work out ? just reading about it now. want to convert mine to the outside and think this will work. just would like some pictures if you have some please.

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