Going to larabees to day and planning to stay till after dark for crappie and maybe walleye and had a few Qs. First every time I stay at night for crappie I never get any I know they still bite at night but I've never caught one should I try tip ups and minnows or am I wasting my time. Second I really want to try and get a walleye this year so I'm going too use my tip ups more but where should I start how deep should I go out. Any help would be very useful thanks