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Ice Fishing Tips -Check your local regulations! => Equipment => Ice Augers => Topic started by: nundaiceman on Dec 23, 2020, 09:18 AM
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what is the best drill for a auger?
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I run an Rigid 18V hammer drill for mine for the last 2 years and its been amazing. I bought 2 4amp batteries as well to get a little more power for longer.
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I agree with steinea Can't say anything about other brands as I only buy Rigid tools. They have a life time warranty and stand behind it 100%. I have the same drill as steina which I found on a good sale at Home Depot. I put it on a strike master 6" lite flight auger Last year I counted 42 holes thru 7" before it started to slow down at that point I changed the battery
Go with the Rigid Good luck
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Milwakee
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Ridgid.
It's the strongest pistol grip drill on the market.
It has the best warranty on the market. 5 year warranty if you don't register the tool. Lifetime warranty if you do register the tool.
You won't have to pay to replace worn out batteries either, if the battery comes in a kit. Batteries as a bonus tool or sold alone do not qualify for lsa and it will be only 3 year warranty.
If the drill or any other Ridgud tool needs to be replaced and they quit making that version, they will give you the next version for free and you register that tool and it keeps the lsa. Same with batteries.
Just register with in 90 days to get their lsa.
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Lots of sales Christmas season. hone depot,lowe’s,ace hardware, etc
Look around for a good deal
I bought a dewalt hammer brushed drill kit 6 years ago 20 v lithium. and has served me well....
Of course you do not use the hammer setting....but comes with hammer handle and two batts
I have never needed the second battery on the ice.....even after 40 holes+ in 12 inch ice.
Whenever we setup on the ice i always drill 10 holes to scout and once you find fish. then drill holes for the shanty
good luck!
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Ridgid.
It's the strongest pistol grip drill on the market.
It has the best warranty on the market. 5 year warranty if you don't register the tool. Lifetime warranty if you do register the tool.
You won't have to pay to replace worn out batteries either, if the battery comes in a kit. Batteries as a bonus tool or sold alone do not qualify for lsa and it will be only 3 year warranty.
If the drill or any other Ridgud tool needs to be replaced and they quit making that version, they will give you the next version for free and you register that tool and it keeps the lsa. Same with batteries.
Just register with in 90 days to get their lsa.
uh Rigid hammer drill is 700ft lbs the Millwaukee M18 Hammer drill is 1200ft lbs .... so not sure on the strongest claim.... still a good drill
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uh Rigid hammer drill is 700ft lbs the Millwaukee M18 Hammer drill is 1200ft lbs .... so not sure on the strongest claim.... still a good drill
Octane drill is 1300 inch pounds.
When used with octane battery.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18-Volt-OCTANE-Cordless-Brushless-1-2-in-Hammer-Drill-Driver-R8611506BN/313582516
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These are the drill you want
Dewalt DCD991
Dewalt DCD996
Dewalt DCD997
Dewalt DCD998
Milwaukee 2804-20
Milwaukee 2803-20
Ridgid R86116
18V or Higher Brushless Drill
5 Amp Hour or Higher Battery
1/2” Chuck Type
Side Stabilizer / Handle
Minimum Torque Rating of 84 Nm / 750 in. lbs.
No Load RPM Range of 0-550 RPM on Speed Setting 1
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I have been running the Milwaukee M18 Fuel Hammer drill for several years with no issues.
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Octane drill is 1300 inch pounds.
When used with octane battery.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18-Volt-OCTANE-Cordless-Brushless-1-2-in-Hammer-Drill-Driver-R8611506BN/313582516
guess I looked at the one on the Rigid site and its only 700
https://www.ridgid.com/us/en/brushless-18v-hammer-drill-driver-kit
my bad.
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Not a big fan of the Ridgid Octane based on they are prone to cut outs ...unless you use the 9ah battery ...the Ridgid Octane combo kit comes with two 3 ah batteries so even then your starting off short on power/ah .
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Milwaukee fuel hammer drill with a 9ah battery and you’ll be on the ice for a week and still have battery left over. Battery is alittle bit heavy but if you go away for a weekend with no charger it’s nice to have. Even though I have never killed even a 5ah battery lol
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Here's a kit with three batteries including their 9amp octane battery. Its a kit so all of it qualifies for their lifetime service agreement.
If you want the best
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18-Volt-OCTANE-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-Brushless-2-Tool-Combo-Kit-w-2-3-0-Ah-Batteries-1-9-0-Ah-Battery-and-Charger-R9501-AC8400809/314260088
Do you need the best?
Not a big fan of the Ridgid Octane based on they are prone to cut outs ...unless you use the 9ah battery ...the Ridgid Octane combo kit comes with two 3 ah batteries so even then your starting off short on power/ah .
You need octane batteries to handle the octane drill.
Its mentioned on the web pages.
I tested non octane batteries to see what it would do since I own plenty of them and the battery would cut out, not the drill.
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Milwaukee M18 Fuel Hammer drill hammer drill 18 volt
I cut with 8 inch auger
only because I do fish for pike,
for pan fish you good with 6 inch
buy a drill with at least 18volt
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Definitely go with a 5 amp/hr battery or higher. That way you should only need to bring one battery. I second Dewalt and Milwaukee. I have field tested them to death and they are the best IMO. Not much experience with other brands
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I got a steal on the dewalt 996 combo and used it for the first time this weekend with my 6” laser. All I can say is WOW totally sold on the technology. Went through 4” of ice in 2 seconds.
Sold my gasser to pay for the drill, adapter, and extension. I don’t think I will ever look back and regret it.
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Danman I picked up the Dewalt hammer drill 20V. I hope its as good as everyone says it is. Im going to be using it on my 8 inch light flight auger. I have the Jiffy propane auger 10 inch also. Its good down to about 20 degrees but when I went up to Sacandaga lake year at 3 degrees it didn't want to start & kept stalling. I had the neoprene covers on the propane take but they didn't help much. Walt
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Danman I picked up the Dewalt hammer drill 20V. I hope its as good as everyone says it is. Im going to be using it on my 8 inch light flight auger. I have the Jiffy propane auger 10 inch also. Its good down to about 20 degrees but when I went up to Sacandaga lake year at 3 degrees it didn't want to start & kept stalling. I had the neoprene covers on the propane take but they didn't help much. Walt
Hope its on of the Dewalts that I listed above and not the Atomic version . Not enough in/lbs or UWO of torque..may work on skinny ice but not so much after 10 in on up .
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Danman I picked up the Dewalt hammer drill 20V. I hope its as good as everyone says it is. Im going to be using it on my 8 inch light flight auger. I have the Jiffy propane auger 10 inch also. Its good down to about 20 degrees but when I went up to Sacandaga lake year at 3 degrees it didn't want to start & kept stalling. I had the neoprene covers on the propane take but they didn't help much. Walt
I also hope it's one of the ones listed cause you'll burn but anything else first time your on 5 inches of black ice did it last year after my 996 was stolen. Bought a 997 to replace it.
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Some adapters for the cordless drills
https://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=372843.msg4025394#msg4025394
Some information on the Auger Drill Units
All about the blades .1).K-Drill has Chipper style great for dirty ice Slowest and uses more battery ..2)Shaver style blade or Mora type ..Pistol Bit ..HT E-Drill ..Cableas Eze ..pretty fast and can be hand sharpen with some practice ..replacement blades fairly inexpensive . 3) Lazer style blades ..Lite flight .. ..fastest but if used on dirty ice game over ..ie paper weight..replacement blades lil pricey.. I am not familar with the Razr ..but believe they have Lazer style blades .. next is weight ..metal heavier ..composite lighter . Having a center point is a great option ..most hand augers do not ..so skipping on glare ice is quite possible/dangerous . As for the Drill you will be using ..Brushless 725 in/lbs or better with 5ah battery or better..IF YOU GO WITH A UNDER POWERED UNDERTORQUED PICTURE HANGING DRILL SET UP IT WILL BE AN EPIC FAIL EVENTUALLY..Buy the right drill and battery set up .
HT Enterprise E Drill.. Mora/Straight
Eskimo Pistol Bit....... Mora?Straight
Strikemaster Lite Flite. Lazer/Curved
K Drill... Chipper
Cabelas Eze Drill..........Mora/Straight
Nils.................. ..........$$$
Razr Scout................. .Lazer/Curved
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Danman I picked up the Dewalt hammer drill 20V. I hope its as good as everyone says it is. Im going to be using it on my 8 inch light flight auger. I have the Jiffy propane auger 10 inch also. Its good down to about 20 degrees but when I went up to Sacandaga lake year at 3 degrees it didn't want to start & kept stalling. I had the neoprene covers on the propane take but they didn't help much. Walt
Six years old. a beast. dcd985. i use a old 6 inch mora with sharp blades . lemme know how works for an 8 inch
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Six years old. a beast. dcd985
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I started with the DCD771 ..burnt it up using 6'SM Lazer ...moved up to the DCD985 w/4ah batteries first gen Clam Plate same SM lazer ..then went to 2nd gen Clam Plate ...refurbished Milwaukee 2704 w/5ah batteries and a 7.5" K-Drill
I believe the DCD985 is a brushed drill ..so that why I went with the Milwaukee upgrade .
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Six years old. a beast. dcd985
What make/model/size auger drill unit are you using on your set up ...I still have my gen 1 Clam Plate ..and my DCD985 w/4ah batteries ..wondering how big/type you running with success ? How many holes you drill per outing ?
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6 inch old mora with new blades.... i’ve learned over time that i don’t need anything larger ......started with a 7.5 inch hand auger back in 1980. lol.
drill 12 inches deep in under ten seconds .
i drill 30-50 holes per outing
i’ve never needed the backup battery but i carry it anyhow
max torq setting low rpm setting
yes mine is brushed bought it just about the time brushless was becoming common.
I use it a lot for other Dyi stuff. as you can tell from the cosmetics
don’t bang the drill on the ice
don’t try to drill out old holes
let the drill feed itself
i fish binghamton cortland syracuse lakes
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DANMAN Thanks ..quite a detail description ..may have to re assemble my old set up ..as a back up .
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DANMAN Thanks ..quite a detail description ..may have to re assemble my old set up ..as a back up .
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These are the drill you want
Dewalt DCD991
Dewalt DCD996
Dewalt DCD997
Dewalt DCD998
Milwaukee 2804-20
Milwaukee 2803-20
Ridgid R86116
18V or Higher Brushless Drill
5 Amp Hour or Higher Battery
1/2” Chuck Type
Side Stabilizer / Handle
Minimum Torque Rating of 84 Nm / 750 in. lbs.
No Load RPM Range of 0-550 RPM on Speed Setting 1
That’s some great information. I just had someone ask me what drill to get. Screenshot and sent. Thanks for making it easy as this is extremely helpful and saves a lot of time.
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That’s some great information. I just had someone ask me what drill to get. Screenshot and sent. Thanks for making it easy as this is extremely helpful and saves a lot of time.
Your welcome ..this topic comes up quite often ..and gets beaten to death ..and a lot of misinformation ..sure there are one off "other brands" ..but these are the drills that get the most attention and have been tried and tested by a lot of respected members of IceShanty ... if you read my above post I have made every misstep you could possible make with a cordless drill set up ..some was lack of information at the time..some were due to a next gen up grade ..some were cutting corners ...so helping out others who want to jump on the band wagon is the right thing to do .
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Been using a Milwaukee M18 for ~4 years now mated to a clam auger drill plate and lazer bit. Would not change.
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Making my first post!
I’m going to Home Depot tomorrow to pick up the Ryobi hammer drill that’s currently on sale (600 in./lbs. for $50 (tool only) can’t beat the price). I hope that, paired with the lithium-ion plus battery, should give me the umph I need.
And Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays to all.
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Making my first post!
I’m going to Home Depot tomorrow to pick up the Ryobi hammer drill that’s currently on sale (600 in./lbs. for $50 (tool only) can’t beat the price). I hope that, paired with the lithium-ion plus battery, should give me the umph I need.
And Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays to all.
Save your money unless your just looking for a home drill. This will not I repeat this will not spin an auger very long before it's smoking
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I appreciate it! You saved me a trip to the store, and a small dent in the wallet.
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I appreciate it! You saved me a trip to the store, and a small dent in the wallet.
No problem hate to see you waste 50 bucks
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I have been running the Milwaukee M18 Fuel Hammer drill for several years with no issues.
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Been using a Milwaukee M18 for ~4 years now mated to a clam auger drill plate and lazer bit. Would not change.
sounds good. the clam plate has some gear reduction which imo allows a bigger variety of drills to be used.
electric drill setup of any configuration is sure a lot better than hand drill.ing. lol 💪💪
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I use a Ryboi hammer drill and driver 18v Lithium+ and it's drilled many holes. This'll be my third yr with it. It's attached to a Mora 6inch augar with sharp blades. Just my two cents.
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Just purchased the Dewalt DCD998, thanks for all the input! Just need the ice now.
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Just purchased the Dewalt DCD998, thanks for all the input! Just need the ice now.
Good luck with your purchase !
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I use a Ryboi hammer drill and driver 18v Lithium+ and it's drilled many holes. This'll be my third yr with it. It's attached to a Mora 6inch augar with sharp blades. Just my two cents.
You should play the lottery cause you got the 1 of 100 that hasn't burned up yet spinning an auger. I've seen 3-4 burn up and even dewalts that aren't the models stated
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This will be my first year with the drill setup I went with Milwaukee 2804 and a pistol bit
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6 inch old mora with new blades.... i’ve learned over time that i don’t need anything larger ......started with a 7.5 inch hand auger back in 1980. lol.
I can remember starting out with a old spoon auger. Back to the subject. I have a old Mora with a 24v cobalt with a tee handle. We averaged a couple dozen holes a outing and never needed the back up battery. How far we have advanced over the years. From a polar pal ,bucket, and a spud and no electronics. To what we have now. Now for a shelter that drags itself to really impress me..lol
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I can remember starting out with a old spoon auger. Back to the subject. I have a old Mora with a 24v cobalt with a tee handle. We averaged a couple dozen holes a outing and never needed the back up battery. How far we have advanced over the years. From a polar pal ,bucket, and a spud and no electronics. To what we have now. Now for a shelter that drags itself to really impress me..lol
So true Al my first year I used an ax and the broken of top of a bamboo cane pole..
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You should play the lottery cause you got the 1 of 100 that hasn't burned up yet spinning an auger. I've seen 3-4 burn up and even dewalts that aren't the models stated
There are a few different models of the Ryobi. There is a heavier duty one that puts out 750 in-lbs of torque and will not burn up. BUT there is a huge problem with that drill. The hammer handle is connected through the plastic in the front. The handle can't withstand the torque the motor puts out. I damn near broke my wrist last winter when the entire thing tore apart. Before that tho, this drill would cut 8-inch holes. Still, I would not recommend it!!
I actually just purchased the Kobalt XTR 24v Brushless Drill-Driver at Lowes. 1,200 in-lbs of torque and the kit with 4ah was only $124 (Hammer model was $150). Just started using it, but so far it's chewed what ice we have no problem (with kinda dull blades from last season).
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I use the Ryobi and have it attached to this:
https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/ht-enterprises-nero-mini-compact-ice-auger-with-drill-adapter-and-extension-kit?hvarAID=shopping_googleproductextensions&ds_e=GOOGLE&ds_c=Shop%7CGeneric%7CAllProducts%7CHigh%7CSSCCatchAll&gclid=CjwKCAiA57D_BRAZEiwAZcfCxZzsRz1G5HDozsmEuqRUQ-Q1YKBBOoNzsSoXfQ2KaMEv5F-a0ZyNlhoC2R4QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
I have had zero issues and have cut 15+ Inches several holes.
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Don't think you can go wrong with Milwaukee or dewalt. I plan on purchasing a dewalt 996 for my 6" nils convertible. I have two 4 amp batteries for it already which I think should be plenty to last all day in an area where ice fishing is starting to dissipate due to our weak winters. Anymore locally IF we get ice it's not more than 5 or 6" at best through the winter.
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Don't think you can go wrong with Milwaukee or dewalt. I plan on purchasing a dewalt 996 for my 6" nils convertible. I have two 4 amp batteries for it already which I think should be plenty to last all day in an area where ice fishing is starting to dissipate due to our weak winters. Anymore locally IF we get ice it's not more than 5 or 6" at best through the winter.
I'm still yet to have to attach the second battery in a day. I always carry 2 6amp batteries
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I had a rigid drill with a 6 inch Nils that worked great but the batteries were only 2ah, I will say rigid has EXCEPTIONAL customer service. I had a bad battery, made a 5 minute phone call and had a new one in 3 days. If you have Rigid, spend the few minutes to register your stuff for the LSA.
Now I run a Milwaukee on a 8" lite flite and couldn't be happier. Went with the Milwaukee because i got it with a impact drill and 2 batteries pretty cheap. No regrets on the purchase.
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I had a rigid drill with a 6 inch Nils that worked great but the batteries were only 2ah, I will say rigid has EXCEPTIONAL customer service. I had a bad battery, made a 5 minute phone call and had a new one in 3 days. If you have Rigid, spend the few minutes to register your stuff for the LSA.
Now I run a Milwaukee on a 8" lite flite and couldn't be happier. Went with the Milwaukee because i got it with a impact drill and 2 batteries pretty cheap. No regrets on the purchase.
Just curious how many holes did you get on a charge? I just got my adapter for my 7" Lazer, so I haven't tried it yet. Not worried about the drill, but I only have a 2ah battery on it, so I am imagining the lifespan per charge will be pretty short.
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Been running a Dewalt 996 for the last two years. Works great, no complaints.
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This video is a great comparison between the two most popular brands Dewalt DCD991 and Milwaukee 2804...both have 5 ah batteries . I am certain the DCD996 and/or the Milwaukee 2803 would have similar outcomes. Dewalts new it girl the DCD998/DCD999 are very similar in torque to the DCD991/996 ..but if you add a Flexvolt battery with 6ah or more it is adverstised to up the torque .
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Will my Nils 6 inch convertible connect directly to either of these? Do i need the orange thing in the middle? See pic of Nils below
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Will my Nils 6 inch convertible connect directly to either of these? Do i need the orange thing in the middle? See pic of Nils below
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Not certain what your asking ...did your Trekker come with conversion kit ? If so it will attach to any drill .
https://www.nilsmaster.com/conversion-kit
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Nils is an odd duck ..I am not all that familiar with them as far as what adapter work with what model(s)...maybe contact Nils USA for a heads up.
https://www.reedssports.com/ice-fishing/nilsusa-power-adapter-adpt-6430025553238
The orange thing is a closed cell foam float ..to keep the auger from going to Davy Jones Locker should it detach itself from the chuck of the drill...Exclusive to the K-Drill..the Nils conversion kit looks to have a disc to prevent that..NOTE as far as I know the Nils Trekker does not have a center point ...attaching it to a cordless drill ...on glare ice requires some caution ...those blades are sharp ...add some RPMs and that thing is a swirling ninja death machine be careful.
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I have that nils adapter for the drill and was disappointed , I went with the Ice master and it worked great , non of my nils have a center point just feather the trigger to get a divot in the ice ive never had a problem with it dancing across the ice
http:// https://www.fishusa.com/Ice-Master-Ice-Auger-Power-Drill-Conversion-Kit
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Great, thank you, yes the drill being convertible has the adapter built in. The plate prevents it from slipping off, should be all good.
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Great, thank you, yes the drill being convertible has the adapter built in. The plate prevents it from slipping off, should be all good.
Are you a battery platform already ? Dewalt...Milwaukee.. other ?? If so you may be able to get a bare tool and be race ready .
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I use a Ryboi hammer drill and driver 18v Lithium+ and it's drilled many holes. This'll be my third yr with it. It's attached to a Mora 6inch augar with sharp blades. Just my two cents.
I too used a Ryobi Hammer drill (600 in lb) and the 18V 9 ah Lithium last year with no problems. 6" Lazer on a Clam plate. Drills great even up to 20+" of ice. As long as you have good blades like you mentioned and match up the diameter to the in/lb of torque there should not be a problem. 100 in/lb per inch of diameter. If someone is running an 8" or 10" on something with less torque than yeah it will have problems (I've seen this quite a bit on the ice). I already had Ryobi stuff and batteries for home use so I wasn't about to spend money on a different brand just for one purpose essentially.
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I too used a Ryobi Hammer drill (600 in lb) and the 18V 9 ah Lithium last year with no problems. 6" Lazer on a Clam plate. Drills great even up to 20+" of ice. As long as you have good blades like you mentioned and match up the diameter to the in/lb of torque there should not be a problem. 100 in/lb per inch of diameter. If someone is running an 8" or 10" on something with less torque than yeah it will have problems (I've seen this quite a bit on the ice). I already had Ryobi stuff and batteries for home use so I wasn't about to spend money on a different brand just for one purpose essentially.
You may get. Away with it for a while but your will burn those plastic pieces up in that drill.
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I too used a Ryobi Hammer drill (600 in lb) and the 18V 9 ah Lithium last year with no problems. 6" Lazer on a Clam plate. Drills great even up to 20+" of ice. As long as you have good blades like you mentioned and match up the diameter to the in/lb of torque there should not be a problem. 100 in/lb per inch of diameter. If someone is running an 8" or 10" on something with less torque than yeah it will have problems (I've seen this quite a bit on the ice). I already had Ryobi stuff and batteries for home use so I wasn't about to spend money on a different brand just for one purpose essentially.
You may get. Away with it for a while but your will burn those plastic pieces up in that drill.
this would be in my Home Depot cart waiting for a price change/ sale ..there may be a buy more save more deal going on ..but not showing up in the cart
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI-ONE-HP-18V-Brushless-Cordless-1-2-in-Hammer-Drill-Tool-Only-PBLHM101B/314109445
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI-ONE-18V-Lithium-Ion-6-0-Ah-LITHIUM-HP-High-Capacity-Battery-P193/301913870
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I like my Milwaukee 18 with a 6 inch nils get the disc that prevents loss of cutting head good luck on the ice