At Mazonia "safe ice" is considered 4". The idiot protection the Heartland is speaking of would be the Rangers on site. They can close the place at a moments notice if 1 of the many pits on site would have less than the required 4 inches. Last year I was planning to go to Maz. & the day before, "someone?" went in they say so the closed. I ended up traveling to Shabonna, about an extra 1-1/2 hour one way trip where we fished on 10 inches of ice. They can be a little squirley. Normally I don't care but when I take multiple friends or family out for a day I need a public place that is worth going to. My private access is limited to 1 guest.