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It’s been a minute since I’ve caught a native fish in any lake other than burbot and suckers other than the lakes that plant cut throats
For the record, I don’t support Trout Unlimited and have never paid them a dime. In my opinion, I would say I don’t agree with them on the subject as well because they cater to the guide community and I don’t agree with expansions of rainbows and browns (stocking included) in waters that could be better off for cutts or grayling or heck even red bands. This goes for proposals by state agencies as well (a good example of a bad plant would be the new shrimp introduced into Flathead Lake that caused a die off of native food sources, not a fish intro but an example of a bad planting job). Second, I know some lakes and waters can support non native sport fish populations based on flood plains and not seeping into other native waterways but that’s very specific and should be left to a professional biologist. I’m not saying all waterways should be axed, but pike in the Clearwater chain for example or walleye appearing in Seeley comes from bucket biology. It messes with the whole food chain.Also, jokes on this subject is just dumb. It’s a serious issue and messes with ecosystems for years. Fisheries and fisheries health is a serious topic and as sportsmen we should treat it as such. I usually would pay this no mind but man, seeing how some fisheries have been changed by this just rubs me wrong. I know this won’t change minds already made up, but I had to say something.
there are still watersheds that have native fish. sadly, besides barrier falls, the ones that remain are beyond man made boundaries such as reservoirs and irrigation projects. Some of us still fish waters with native cuts and bulls that we can drive to. Would i rather have some walleye and perch filets in the freezer? Of course. If there are still areas that have a chance to emulate an environment of past ways..great. Just cause one thinks that trout taste like crap and fly fisherman are liberal d bags, gives no one a right to play god. The guvermunt is doing the best they can to manage the fisheries in the best way possible to serve a myriad of interests..from the most ignorant redneck to the most pretentious yuppie d bag... i think we need to look beyond our own interest and give MWF a break... just my 2 cents
We really should protect the native species. So let’s kill off most main species except cuttys, grayling and a handful of sturgeon on the West side, redo the East with catfish and sauger, send Bozeman back to California and start from scratch again.
And blow all the dams! Fort Peck first!
Half of North Dakota would be like the O Brother Where Art Thou flood scene.
Wow, not much to contribute, you should just crawl back under the rock you come from.
Thanks for the feedback. Bet you’re a blast at parties.
For the record, I don’t support Trout Unlimited and have never paid them a dime. In my opinion, I would say I don’t agree with them on the subject as well because they cater to the guide community
Fly fishing for Walleye? Never heard of such a thing nor anybody doing it. And I do a LOT of it. Cranks, spoons, harnesses...sure. Pike? Maybe. Still sounds ludicrous to me.
an FWP warden no longer has jurisdiction on guides, they can’t even approach them to check for licenses.
For real ?? What a crock !!
Yea, not buying that.
Warden’s have more jurisdiction than cops!
With so many disbelievers, here’s the backstory. There is a fishing guide illegally guiding on the Sun River, I spoke to my friend, who is a game warden about it. They said, since most of the Sun River is on BLM, they cannot do anything. Then he said, a directive came down from the State Board of Montana, Board of Outfitters telling game wardens they cannot check outfitters for guide licenses and insurance or their clients any longer. This did come from the hunting side of outfitters, not fishing side but applies to fishing guides as well. Unfortunately, unless my friend lied to me, this is true.
I’ve done some poking around on some issues with rivers and lakes and most of the issues point towards the guide associations. They seem to have one sided influence on lots of things that happen in Montana. So much so, an FWP warden no longer has jurisdiction on guides, they can’t even approach them to check for licenses. The board of outfitters stripped them of their jurisdiction. I wouldn’t be surprised if the guide association were involved with this.
…a directive came down from the State Board of Montana, Board of Outfitters telling game wardens they cannot check outfitters for guide licenses and insurance or their clients any longer.
Yep, not buying that.
Per my face to face discussion this afternoon with a Game Warden at the FWP Resource Center in town regarding some of the statements made in this thread..."A Game Warden can check anyone/everyone anywhere at any time & that includes BLM land." So I guess believe what ya want. I will believe what I was told in a face to face discussion.with a Game Warden...
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