i'm new to iceshanty.com but have been ice fishing about 40 yrs., have seen a lot of change in gear, homemade and purcrchased, but a couple of days ago on this chat line a fella had a pix of a decsent home made tip up and i'd like to make it, but also he mentioned he had a tip down he showed on this forum. i'd like to see that and also the tip up again so i can try both. or if anyone else has their own designs i'd like to see them as well,thanks