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Title: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: bosco2 on Jan 14, 2022, 12:10 PM
I’m setting a personal record tomorrow. Adirondacks trip. Morning temps. forecast for -18. Curious if folks have an “I won’t go if it’s below_______degrees”. Just want to see if I’m dedicated or nuts. I do expect a slow to non-existent bite but the Airbnb is paid for and non-refundable.
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: sebago2jigtima on Jan 14, 2022, 12:13 PM
nuts  ;D
good luck and stay safe ;)
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: Adironzach on Jan 14, 2022, 12:16 PM
I've hiked in similar conditions before. Temps never went above 0 the whole day. However, im constantly moving while climbing a mountain and producing a bunch of body heat. Im planning on being out there so we will find out. I know for a fact i wont be moving as often or setting as many tip ups but i will definitely give it a shot. Ive got a full tank of propane and a buddy flex for a reason. Time to let them earn there keep
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: sparksNfishing on Jan 14, 2022, 12:16 PM
-35c without windchill. At that point it's kinda misery with getting things warmed up or started.
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: zcm_82 on Jan 14, 2022, 12:18 PM
For me it's more about wind than the temp. If it's super windy, I just call a mulligan, because it makes setup and takedown a miserable nightmare.

I've fished in -35 or so on a few calm days when I was living in MN. Holes shrink up bad when it's that cold, though, and you're constantly fighting freeze over, even inside a fish house.

More recently, -10ish is about the coldest I've been out for, but it doesn't get below 0 that often around here.





Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: bosco2 on Jan 14, 2022, 12:26 PM
For me it's more about wind than the temp.

Calling for 6mph winds. I won’t complain about that.
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: lowaccord66 on Jan 14, 2022, 12:52 PM
No such thing.  I love days like that.  Keeps the crowds down. 
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: zcm_82 on Jan 14, 2022, 12:54 PM
Calling for 6mph winds. I won’t complain about that.

That shouldn't be bad at all, as long as you keep your hands and feet dry.
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: Kobey on Jan 14, 2022, 12:57 PM
I have a separate fishing strategy for when it's bitter cold.  I find a place where I can park next to shore, put out my tipups, and use the truck shanty.  The only reasons I go out is to clean out holes or get a flag, which doesn't happen often since my fishing spot on those days is dictated by convenience rather than productivity.  Tomorrow will definitely be a truck shanty day.
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: Iceman1899 on Jan 14, 2022, 03:48 PM
Truck shanty…..lol. I call it my heated side by side with Satellite radio. No better feeling watching that sun go down knowing you’ll be in a heated shanty jigging for perch and eyes next time you see it coming up!!! Tomorrow we separate ice fisherman from the keyboard warriors
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: IcefisherSteve on Jan 14, 2022, 04:43 PM
I dont care how cold it is. As long as I have my heater and snacks. I will stay in my flip shanty all day. I switched to a thermal fabric last year and there is a huge difference in keeping in the warmth  and blocking wind.
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: Akhardwater on Jan 14, 2022, 04:55 PM
There is no such thing as bad weather just bad gear.  If you have gear that is designed to handle super cold then get out and enjoy it.  I’ve spent time up on the north slope where it would get down to -50 for weeks (don’t ask about the windchill) and I could do my job and operate in relative comfort all because I had gear designed for that situation.  Always carry an extra set of gloves inside your cloths so you always have a way to warm your hands.  I cannot stress the fact enough that controlling your perspiration is paramount in staying warm.  Have fun be safe.
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: zcm_82 on Jan 14, 2022, 05:52 PM
The average joe is never, ever gonna enjoy -50°F

I've been outside when it's -50° a couple times in my life, and it sucks. There are absolutely no other words in the English language necessary to describe it. Telling someone to go enjoy fishing at -50 is like telling them to enjoy dipping their toes in battery acid  :P

When propane freezes in the lines outside, it sucks.

When you have to wear goggles to keep your eyelashes from freezing together, it sucks.

When you have to wear as much thermal protection as Neil Armstrong did on the moon to go outside and not die... it sucks.  :roflmao:


Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: meandcuznalfy on Jan 14, 2022, 06:03 PM
There is no such thing as bad weather just bad gear.  If you have gear that is designed to handle super cold then get out and enjoy it.  I’ve spent time up on the north slope where it would get down to -50 for weeks (don’t ask about the windchill) and I could do my job and operate in relative comfort all because I had gear designed for that situation.  Always carry an extra set of gloves inside your cloths so you always have a way to warm your hands.  I cannot stress the fact enough that controlling your perspiration is paramount in staying warm.  Have fun be safe.

I agree, windproof/waterproof clothing that breathes works well in cold temps, been out at -40 on the 4 wheeler and been comfortable hunting and fishing.
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: WARRIOR_ON_ICE on Jan 14, 2022, 09:06 PM
After 34 years of ice fishing, I do choose my battles now. There was a time when I went fishing on a day off from work, regardless of the weather. I've fished without a shelter or heater in - 25 F before, and I have fished in horizontal, wind-driven snow that accumulated to 18 inches while I was fishing. At my age, extreme conditions are not an adventure as they once were, just something that needs to be avoided as the discomfort far outweighs the fishing experience.

If I am well rested and feel good, I will still get out at - 10F if the wind is calm or non-existant
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: FingerLaker607 on Jan 15, 2022, 07:21 PM
I could not have said that any better Warrior...I've got nothing to prove, and the fishing on bitter cold windy days just isn't worth the pain anymore
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: Hardwater2 on Jan 15, 2022, 07:33 PM
Get after it……I’d fish it!
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: Mentiply on Jan 15, 2022, 08:36 PM
It's a person to person thing. When you don't enjoy it, then it's too cold.
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: Gary Minckler on Jan 16, 2022, 05:33 AM
Sunny and calm is more important to me than temps. -10 with overcast and a breeze is way worse than the same temp if its sunny.
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: filetandrelease on Jan 16, 2022, 06:46 AM
 When it gets cold some should wear a face mask as not to breath in really cold air ,
 Shack , heater , food I’m good ,
 
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: RuttNutt on Jan 16, 2022, 07:07 AM
No such thing as too cold! 😜

Of course in PA we haven’t had anything colder than -8* a couple times.

Might be different if I was in Minn. or Alaska with -30 or -40 temps! 🤪
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: Yotecatcher on Jan 16, 2022, 07:09 AM
I agree with you F/R
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: Raquettedacker on Jan 16, 2022, 07:12 AM
I always pull my neck warmer up over my nose.   Heck I was outside filling the bird feeders yesterday and had it on.  ;)
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: Yotecatcher on Jan 16, 2022, 07:22 AM

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Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: FreshwaterPhil on Jan 16, 2022, 07:47 AM
I fished -31C (-25F)without shelter during a 3 day fishing trip last winter, but for the most part, I pick my days and try to fish warmer than -10C (14F).
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: bosco2 on Jan 16, 2022, 10:17 AM
Welp...what I found was that I wasn't too cold to fish but much of everything else was. Vex battery, Ion auger battery both got REAL weak. Trying to keep tip ups open and functioning was tough. Had a slow day but iced a few keepers. I will fish this again but I will travel light, 1 man clam flipover, leave the tip ups and extras home, bring a heater, vex, remove the auger battery when not in use and bring it inside, and hole hop.
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: Neil McCauley on Jan 16, 2022, 10:30 AM
yep...when it's <0*F I stay put in the shanty
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: TheWasp74 on Jan 18, 2022, 03:33 PM
Sat out on Tomhannock one day it was -15 degrees with no wind
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: kpd145 on Jan 19, 2022, 01:25 PM
I have yet to find how cold is too cold and I have fished in temps well below -25

If i'm up and car is loaded, I'm fishing. Im more worried about crazy winds than cold.

Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: theTUGistheDRUG on Jan 19, 2022, 02:37 PM
Last weekend was -12 (-40 with wind chill) and -8 (not much wind) at Chaumont and it honestly was not quite as bad as I expected. Set-up was miserable with the steam from our breathe in the hut and ice on my glasses, but once the heater got to the 2nd 1lb tank it was pleasant.  Certainly was not very mobile.  ATV did not start so we had to drag out.  Ya gotta do what you gotta do.  Put the layering system to the test with excellent results.   
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: Bella on Jan 20, 2022, 08:54 PM
Single digits with 10mph wind I'm staying home
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: Adironzach on Jan 21, 2022, 05:59 AM
more about the wind than the cold for me. Was out last weekend and it was -10 walking out/ during setup. Didnt feel too bad since i was moving and there wasnt wind. The cold might make me stay a little more stationary than id like to be but i think wind is the biggest limiting factor for me. Since digits temps and double digit sustained winds sounds a lot more like type 3 fun than type 2.
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: 62&done on Jan 21, 2022, 05:31 PM
I don't really mind the cold  I usually just jig in the hut any way.   Wind I do not like   We have little snow so nothing to bank up against the shelter makes it breezy inside as well
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: Arkangel on Jan 22, 2022, 05:39 AM
Not sure who said it - but agree that in my younger years I just went - regardless of temps. 

Heck - we didn't all have these stupid phones attached to us to tell us the weather anywhere in the world 24/7...we just went!

They say...with age come grace and wisdom...pretty sure that no one will call me graceful or wise - but I do know this.  I too, pick my battles wisely. 

Sitting this one out - I'll use this time to reline, re-rig, repack and recharge. 

With these temps we will (certainly?) have ice for the foreseeable future...maybe even get some spring like temps with thick ice in late March and ice some fat bellied pre-spawn perch.
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: joefish on Jan 22, 2022, 05:42 AM
Not sure who said it - but agree that in my younger years I just went - regardless of temps. 

Heck - we didn't all have these stupid phones attached to us to tell us the weather anywhere in the world 24/7...we just went!

They say...with age come grace and wisdom...pretty sure that no one will call me graceful or wise - but I do know this.  I too, pick my battles wisely. 

Sitting this one out - I'll use this time to reline, re-rig, repack and recharge. 
WELL SAID
With these temps we will (certainly?) have ice for the foreseeable future...maybe even get some spring like temps with thick ice in late March and ice some fat bellied pre-spawn perch.
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: regulator on Jan 22, 2022, 05:47 AM
You got it Arkangel, was just thinking that myself this morning. Were going to have good ice for the long haul, providing we don't get a bunck of wet snow to slop things up.
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: Arkangel on Jan 22, 2022, 06:06 AM
Perfect! 

Came across some old grainy pics from late 70s early 80s standing on Whitney Point Res with work boots, corduroy pants, flannel shirt and sleeveless vest , no hat (think Micheal J. Fox in Back to the Future)

Sun was (higher?) in the sky...looked like spring...even some greening of grass on the shores in background.

I'm guessing that pic was taken in late March...and there were also an abundance of slab crappie on the ice :icefish:...back when there used to be more predictable crappie fishing on the Dead Sea.

Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: bart on Jan 22, 2022, 06:36 AM
There was a time when I would look at the worst conditions as a challenge! 

Today, being older and retired, even with all the gadgets of comfort... these is gotta be a better day!
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: lowaccord66 on Jan 22, 2022, 07:06 AM
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Was on LG 2.5 weeks ago doing 60 it was quite cold.  No buddy heater to save you there!
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: trapper2000 on Jan 22, 2022, 07:49 AM
you could  have slowed  down to  20 and  been warmer ......just  a though for  next time 



i  agree i ain't   walking  out  in 10 below   and have the wind  pick up  which they are  calling  for  wind  chill 25 below  today ..... hot   drinks  fly  tying bench  and   thawing out  gear day ........frost bite and hypothermia will spoil your day
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: Arkangel on Jan 22, 2022, 08:33 AM
...okay...let's beat up this topic one more time... ;D ;D ;D

As I sit here planning my day (inside) my lovely wife is trying to either console me - or encourage me. 

Her..."...well...you could just go for a couple hours..."

Me..."...Hun...it'd be like taking the boat out to the beach on a 45 degree day in the rain.  Would we be in the boat - at the beach?             
 Yes and yes.  But would it be enjoyable?"

No one likes to be outside and fishing more than I do...but I have 3 fingers on my right hand that go "dead" when they get extremely cold.  This was the result of sticking my hand in my Oneida Lake ice fishing hole - when a Walleye came off right in the hole - on a day like today.

I was 16 at the time that was over 40 years ago.  And fingers still go dead when they're cold.

How cold is too cold?  This cold.
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: greensider on Jan 28, 2022, 04:58 AM
Yesterday may have been to cold my neighbor went to Whitney his qua was to cold to start he came home mine was inside garage all night in tender but I got to lake around 10 and mine was to cold to start it was supposed to be 3 at night but it crashed to -16
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: greensider on Jan 28, 2022, 04:59 AM
Yesterday may have been to cold my neighbor went to Whitney his qua was to cold to start he came home mine was inside garage all night in tender but I got to lake around 10 and mine was to cold to start it was supposed to be 3 at night but it crashed to -16
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: sebago2jigtima on Jan 28, 2022, 05:07 AM
below 0 is not enjoyable for me    :cookoo:
but no wind makes a differance   ;D
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: gonephishin on Jan 28, 2022, 06:55 AM
I was out last Saturday in -20. Didn't seem bad cuz it was so calm...

7 degrees and 30mph gusts forecasted are probably keeping me home tomorrow though. I absolutely hate wind.
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: Raquettedacker on Jan 28, 2022, 06:59 AM
This was -20*


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Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: zcm_82 on Jan 28, 2022, 06:59 AM
I was out last Saturday in -20. Didn't seem bad cuz it was so calm...

7 degrees and 30mph gusts forecasted are probably keeping me home tomorrow though. I absolutely hate wind.

Same... wind is the trip killer. I was out Wednesday and it was -12° here but dead calm, so it really wasn't bad at all... aside from my beard icing up :roflmao:
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: perch chacer on Jan 29, 2022, 09:29 PM
-11 last Sat when we went out, but very little wind in our faces so the walk out to 1 mile was OK.  During the day the temp did get above zero but not to far, but the wind had picked up quit a bit, wind chill was again below zero. Luckily for us the wind was at your backs which made the walk in OK.  Wind is more extreme for hypothermia then cold temps.  Always be aware of the winds when on the ice.
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: Akhardwater on Feb 02, 2022, 09:53 AM
This thread makes me laugh.  Its funny how some people actually call themselves ice fisherman yet complain when it gets a little cold.  Around here if you don’t go out when it’s -20 or -30 you don’t fish and your winter is wasted.  It doesn’t matter if you think your tuff or young or whatever, if you have the passion to fish get out and do it safely.  I know plenty of old timers, in their 80’s, that regularly go out in stuff that anyone south of the 60th parallel have no real concept of.  To cold is nothing more than a frame of mind.
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: WARRIOR_ON_ICE on Feb 02, 2022, 06:26 PM
This thread makes me laugh.  Its funny how some people actually call themselves ice fisherman yet complain when it gets a little cold.  Around here if you don’t go out when it’s -20 or -30 you don’t fish and your winter is wasted.  It doesn’t matter if you think your tuff or young or whatever, if you have the passion to fish get out and do it safely.  I know plenty of old timers, in their 80’s, that regularly go out in stuff that anyone south of the 60th parallel have no real concept of.  To cold is nothing more than a frame of mind.

Akhardwater, that is great that you AK guys fish in - 30 weather. You might  be able to convince yourself that you don't mind it, but please don't make it seem like you are not affected by extreme cold. We are mammals whether we live in NY or AK, and need to maintain a body temp. of 98.6 F. If you are over 45 years old, the cold will affect you to the point where you need to be more selective about the days you can comfortably go ice fishing, wherever you happen to live.
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: WARRIOR_ON_ICE on Feb 02, 2022, 06:35 PM
This thread makes me laugh.  Its funny how some people actually call themselves ice fisherman yet complain when it gets a little cold.  Around here if you don’t go out when it’s -20 or -30 you don’t fish and your winter is wasted.  It doesn’t matter if you think your tuff or young or whatever, if you have the passion to fish get out and do it safely.  I know plenty of old timers, in their 80’s, that regularly go out in stuff that anyone south of the 60th parallel have no real concept of.  To cold is nothing more than a frame of mind.

AKhardwater, I just checked your profile and you are 40 years old. I hope I am wrong, but in 10 years you will probably start declining fishing on the coldest days of the winter. I never thought I would do that when I was your age, but now that I am 56, my body just does not function the way it used to, and more specifically to this topic, I simply can not enjoy being out in - 20 F weather for more than 1 hour. I hope you are one of the rare freaks that remains unaffected by extreme cold as you age !
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: FreshwaterPhil on Feb 02, 2022, 06:39 PM
AKhardwater, I just checked your profile and you are 40 years old. I hope I am wrong, but in 10 years you will probably start declining fishing on the coldest days of the winter. I never thought I would do that when I was your age, but now that I am 56, my body just does not function the way it used to, and more specifically to this topic, I simply can not enjoy being out in - 20 F weather for more than 1 hour. I hope you are one of the rare freaks that remains unaffected by extreme cold as you age !

I'm 48, and still as resistant to cold as I've ever been. Heck, I rarely ice fish with gloves, they end up staying in my pockets most of them time.

That being said, I don't enjoy fishing in -20. For one, any fish I plan to release have a serious chance at being damaged in that sort of cold, being that I don't use shelters. Add in constant ice buildup, and holes / flag lines freezing up, just isn't as much fun any more at that point.
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: sodussut on Feb 02, 2022, 08:33 PM
In Irondequoit, 40 and it started to sprinkle. Hope we don't get to much!
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: RuttNutt on Feb 02, 2022, 09:11 PM
No such thing.  I love days like that.  Keeps the crowds down.

AMEN. Several years ago (4 or 5?) I went out in NEPA on 2 days that were both -8*. I have a flip over but love to be out in the elements so didn’t even flip it over. I’m 56 now, so was 50+ at the time. I don’t think it gets cold enough in PA to keep me from fishing.
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: Akhardwater on Feb 02, 2022, 09:34 PM
Let me clarify, when it gets below -15 I stay in a shack because it’s to hard on the fish and reels start freezing up.  However if you are properly dressed for extreme temps you can be comfortable at really low temps.  On days when it’s to cold to fish I usually spend most of the day riding around looking for fur and exploring new country.  You also have to remember people that live in more northern latitudes acclimatize differently so for me I’m very comfortable sitting on my sled for hours in negative single digits whereas people down south are not used to those temps and it can be uncomfortable.   Cold tolerance is different for every individual and knowing and understanding your limits are very important for your comfort and enjoyment.  Another thing I’ve noticed is my -20 is way warmer than your -20 due to humidity and other atmospheric conditions so I would not blame anyone for not wanting to be out in those temps.  Like I said earlier I know many old timers who run solo traplines all season and those guys are your typical run of the mill Alaskan bad boys out there just doing what they love.  I will never use age as an excuse you are only as old as you let yourself think you are.
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: BeenPerchin315 on Feb 03, 2022, 04:50 AM
AKhardwater, I just checked your profile and you are 40 years old. I hope I am wrong, but in 10 years you will probably start declining fishing on the coldest days of the winter. I never thought I would do that when I was your age, but now that I am 56, my body just does not function the way it used to, and more specifically to this topic, I simply can not enjoy being out in - 20 F weather for more than 1 hour. I hope you are one of the rare freaks that remains unaffected by extreme cold as you age !
Not sure why your on the guys case. He said where he is people fish that regularly. Never said you have to join him or that everyone that won’t fish in those temps ain’t an ice fisherman.
How I read that is stop crying about a little bit cold. Fish when you want be a big boy and make your own choices.

Myself I’ve been out 2 decently below 0* days this year in upstate New York 1 day the truck said -18* and the other was -12* before any wind chill. I was fine and when I got the shanty flipped closed I didn’t need gloves no heater.
So it’s all relative. Enjoy the sport if that’s only fishing 2x a season with good ice and temps over 40* or if your like me and get out as much as the body and work and all other life duties allow.

Tight lines
Perchin
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: Raquettedacker on Feb 03, 2022, 05:24 AM
-35* windchill on Saturday…

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Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: zcm_82 on Feb 03, 2022, 05:24 AM
Not sure why your on the guys case. He said where he is people fish that regularly. Never said you have to join him or that everyone that won’t fish in those temps ain’t an ice fisherman.
How I read that is stop crying about a little bit cold. Fish when you want be a big boy and make your own choices.

Myself I’ve been out 2 decently below 0* days this year in upstate New York 1 day the truck said -18* and the other was -12* before any wind chill. I was fine and when I got the shanty flipped closed I didn’t need gloves no heater.
So it’s all relative. Enjoy the sport if that’s only fishing 2x a season with good ice and temps over 40* or if your like me and get out as much as the body and work and all other life duties allow.

Tight lines
Perchin
Actually, that's pretty much exactly what he said... 🤔

This thread makes me laugh.  Its funny how some people actually call themselves ice fisherman yet complain when it gets a little cold.
Title: Re: How cold is TOO cold?
Post by: IceSpartan on Feb 04, 2022, 11:18 AM
I’ve fished in -100 degrees in Antarctica wearing nothing but a thong and flip flops.  Caught a penguin on a tip up and skinned him alive so I could cover my backside with his pelt.   ;D