i liked the bottom right hand corner of the first map, i think where tbird was talking about . i had the first map up had to move and lost it and cant get it back. i would start deep and move shallow then work between the two drops. The 2nd map I would start at the dark blue hook top right of dam and move right to the slope. Or right in front of the dam. looked like small lakes you should be able to cover quite a bit of ice. that's just my guess.