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Title: A fishing story/problem
Post by: BomoBrown on Mar 13, 2015, 12:01 PM
So I have been debating if I should share this story and I finally have decided to post it.  Three Saturdays in a row I hooked into a seriously big fish and never landed it.  Each day the hole was 5 feet from the shore line with about 2.5 feet of ice and a foot and a half of water at the bottom.   All three Sat.'s I had a large dead smelt on the hook.  Every time the fish took the bait she swam south right along the shore line. 

The first Saturday I did not have a leader and after 20 minutes of the fish taking line it bit through.

So I fixed that problem and bought some 50 lb. test steel mesh coated line for my leader.  The 2nd Saturday I had the fish on for 25 minutes.  It would take line but I could only pull it back so far before it would just stop.  I could feel the head tug.  It never had a fast run but if I let it it would move forward.  Eventually I gave it a big tug and the line snapped.

The 3rd Sat. it bit early in the day.  I had it on my line from 7 am to noon.  I was determined to have the line hold and land the fish.  After 20 minutes if I let go the fish would swim a little bit and then just stop and stay put.  I could pull the fish about 5 feet with growing tension and then it would stop coming and I knew I was near the breaking point.  It felt as if the fish was wedging itself on the ice or between the ice and the shore.  It did not feel like it was in weeds, but there is plenty of milfoil for it to tangle up in.  After hours the line snapped.

One of the factors is the 2.5 feet of ice and 1.5 feet of water.  The line is running at a 90 degree angle from the bottom of the hole to the fish.  Also the fish does not do any great runs that will tire it out.

Does any one have any thoughts about what I could have done to land the fish?

I have caught plenty of nice fish ice fishing but I have never felt a fish this large.  The repeated missed opportunity is haunting me.

Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: johnrielly on Mar 13, 2015, 12:14 PM
I would say use something to push the line down so the line will not hit the ice. The line my be cutting into the ice and wedging. Or theres a scuba diver down there giving you a hard time.
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: mudchuck on Mar 13, 2015, 12:16 PM
Can you drill a 45 degree hole to ease the perpendicular tension placed on the line?
Theory only works if the fish goes in that direction...

Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: BomoBrown on Mar 13, 2015, 12:19 PM
"I would say use something to push the line down so the line will not hit the ice."  On the third Sat. I tried that but it was complicated pulling on the line while holding an objet that kept the line off of the ice. 

I did have an engineering friend construct a stainless steel pulley on the end of a 4 foot long metal broom handle.  I had it with me on the ice last weekend but it did not return for a 4th weekend.  I will have it with me if I ever get another shot at the fish.

Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: BomoBrown on Mar 13, 2015, 12:20 PM
"Can you drill a 45 degree hole to ease the perpendicular tension placed on the line?"  I could.
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: Light liner on Mar 13, 2015, 12:29 PM
Where exactly is this? Pm me,  ;D
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: johnrielly on Mar 13, 2015, 12:44 PM
It my be at BOMO lol
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: BomoBrown on Mar 13, 2015, 12:56 PM
It just might be Bomo.   
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: VTMatt on Mar 13, 2015, 12:57 PM
Sounds like there isn't much you can do with such little water under the ice.   Sounds like the kind of fight I have with a sturgeon on but I'm assuming this isn't Champlain.  Have you tried putting your rod tip in the water to avoid rubbing on the ice?  Assuming you have a rod long enough.
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: lowaccord66 on Mar 13, 2015, 12:57 PM
Sounds like it could be an otter.
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: Fish Hard on Mar 13, 2015, 01:00 PM
Sounds like it could be an otter.
yup, beat me to it...
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: VTMatt on Mar 13, 2015, 01:03 PM
Sounds like it could be an otter.

Oh yeah, that would make the most sense.
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: BomoBrown on Mar 13, 2015, 01:15 PM
Wouldn't I be able to see where the otter enters and exits the lake?  I also would expect signs of the otter in the snow.  I have seen otters on Bomoseen before but....  Also it feels like a fish when it swims, although I do not know what an otter feels like. 

Has one ever accidentally landed an otter?
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: Crayfish2 on Mar 13, 2015, 01:20 PM
Sounds like it could be an otter.

Except I don't believe an otter could stay under for 5hrs.  Sounds like it might be getting you wrapped up in rocks or something so you lose leverage.  I can't imagine fighting a fish for hours like that and then losing it.  It would keep me up nights!  The only thing I can think of would be to give it some slack and see if it moves away from whatever it is getting wrapped in.  Would love to see you land it so we know what the heck it is.

Good luck!
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: JMailbox8 on Mar 13, 2015, 01:31 PM
Who are you fishing with? Not these guys, right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSQ6y3ft1Ww (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSQ6y3ft1Ww)
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: NEK_VT on Mar 13, 2015, 01:39 PM
It could be a huge turtle.  Here's an article on how they can live under the ice. http://curiousnature.info/A1-PaintedTurtle.htm
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: ice fiend on Mar 13, 2015, 01:53 PM
Sounds like something from grumpy old men movie lol. maybe a beaver ?
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: BomoBrown on Mar 13, 2015, 02:11 PM
Well the first two weekends were derbies so there were several people on the ice, but the 3rd Sat. it was only me so I do not think it was a prank.

I am going to think of it as a fish until it proves other wise.  If I can't have the fish, I can have the story.  Of course landing a whale of a snapping turtle is not a bad story.
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: Light liner on Mar 13, 2015, 02:13 PM
See if you could get some one with a camera to help you out.
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: fishy1 on Mar 13, 2015, 02:42 PM
not really sure about this but the way you described your 3 saturdays and where your bait was sounds much like a big turtle. i have caught turtles on cut bait when fish catfish and wow they are tough to land. i guess the only way we will know is if you catch it and then the next thing will it fit in your ice hole.
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: JMailbox8 on Mar 13, 2015, 02:43 PM
Of course landing a whale of a snapping turtle is not a bad story.

Make sure you don't stick your hand down that hole to retrieve it!
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: Tyrion Lanister on Mar 13, 2015, 02:49 PM
It really sounds like a big pike wrapping you up in a tree.
I have a monster that has haunted me for a few seasons at my local honey hole. I can only get him/ her to bite late in the season with a big dead shiner in 3 fow. Typical late season pike action. I really believe it is the same fish that has wrapped me up in the trees time and time again.
Heartbreaking man.  :-\
Sounds like catfish hunter has found your water friend.  ;D Good luck!
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: PanFi$her on Mar 13, 2015, 03:04 PM
Please post some pics after you land that baby!
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: ICE_HOOK on Mar 13, 2015, 03:49 PM
Sounds like a fishy story! Ha
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: fishingidjit on Mar 13, 2015, 05:11 PM
A fish is drawing your line into rocks where it gets wedged. you still feel fish motion but the line is stuck.
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: Little Brown Dog on Mar 14, 2015, 05:15 AM
I would also say it is wrapping you around a tree or stump.  The one thing I found that can work is to give short quick tugs on the line to try and get the fish to swim in another direction and free the line.
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: flagfishon on Mar 14, 2015, 10:12 AM
I don't know what they're doing this time of year, but it sounds like a big snapping turtle to me.  Are there any channel cats in Bomo? 
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: troutcrazy on Mar 14, 2015, 10:27 AM
Wow!  I read that some snapping turtles remain active under the ice, though most hibernate.
I hooked into a big turtle in the spring, on light tackle fishing for crappie.
It felt like i hooked into a boat!  There was no stopping it.
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: shirefisher on Mar 14, 2015, 11:27 AM
I'm sure some guys on here may think it's "Big Wiggle" stealing your tackle.
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: spot on Mar 14, 2015, 06:59 PM
I've had bowfin do this.

Don't know if they live in Bomo though.

They are an interesting fight, especially through the ice.
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: ice fiend on Mar 15, 2015, 07:16 AM
I love catching bowfin i target em hard in the spring they put up a good fight
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: rdhammah on Mar 15, 2015, 07:29 AM
you've tried play=it out a few times. I'd try to horse it in next time.
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: mussburger on Mar 15, 2015, 03:48 PM
Muskrat , we get a couple 2-3 every winter in Maine.
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: JoeGG on Mar 15, 2015, 04:16 PM
not really sure about this but the way you described your 3 saturdays and where your bait was sounds much like a big turtle. i have caught turtles on cut bait when fish catfish and wow they are tough to land. i guess the only way we will know is if you catch it and then the next thing will it fit in your ice hole.
Turtle??? They hibernate....
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: fishy1 on Mar 15, 2015, 06:17 PM
Turtle??? They hibernate....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_snapping_turtle
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: flagfishon on Apr 02, 2015, 10:40 PM
Any updates on what this was?  Perhaps open water will offer more clues.
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: BomoBrown on Apr 03, 2015, 05:31 AM
I am pretty sure that it was a sweet pike wrap pining itself in stones or a down tree. If I ever know for sure I will post it.
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: lowaccord66 on Apr 03, 2015, 07:29 AM
Ah catfish I didn't think about that.  I've targeted them through the ice and big ones are wicked tough.  What they do is take the bait and then try to lock themselves in the mud when you fight them.  I have broken off on many.
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: spot on Apr 04, 2015, 02:52 PM
Are there Bowfin in Bomo?

If there are, I'll bet that's what you had.

When they decide hey want to go they will pull like a big truck.
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: panfris on Apr 04, 2015, 05:55 PM
SNAPPER!!
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: NEK_VT on Apr 04, 2015, 09:44 PM
Any possibility it could be an eel? I have heard stories before of eels wrapping around things like pipes and boards.
Title: Re: A fishing story/problem
Post by: Light liner on Apr 04, 2015, 10:01 PM
It could be a Henway.