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Title: Florocarbon Knots
Post by: UFCreel on Feb 06, 2018, 07:16 AM
Well what knots do you guys use to tie your swivel on one end and hook on the other end as a leader? I tried tying some last night. Did not turn out well. New to using Seaguar Blue Label 40lb fluorocarbon.
Title: Re: Florocarbon Knots
Post by: deadsmelthead on Feb 06, 2018, 08:07 AM
Ive never used any knot other than a clinch knot. I use 30lb co-polymer P-line and this knot has never failed in the 20 plus years using it..
Title: Re: Florocarbon Knots
Post by: Bucket Rump on Feb 06, 2018, 12:18 PM
Used to use the Palomar on everything, but recently started using the nanofil knot for 4 pound and lighter - it's a Palomar with one additional "overhand" run through the loop for lack of a better way to describe it.  Only issue is you need to tie your leader to the swivel first, then tie the swivel to the main line.  Once the leader is connected I tie my hook/jig/lure/etc. on.
Title: Re: Florocarbon Knots
Post by: Rtrucking40 on Feb 06, 2018, 01:53 PM
Clinch knot or improved clinch knot for anythig over 8lb just make sure to wet your line when pulling any knot tight
Title: Re: Florocarbon Knots
Post by: mvanhank222 on Feb 06, 2018, 02:14 PM
You can still tie a clinch knot but maybe only 3 or 4 wraps. 40 lb is really the borderline for tying. You could always try crimping if you are using single hooks you could snell.
Title: Re: Florocarbon Knots
Post by: Idahogator on Feb 06, 2018, 02:56 PM
The Pros & Cons of many knots are    (were HERE, but now the link is gone, due to lack of interest).
Title: Re: Florocarbon Knots
Post by: kayl on Feb 06, 2018, 05:00 PM
I just crimp my leaders, 40#-80#.
Title: Re: Florocarbon Knots
Post by: Rugburn on Feb 06, 2018, 05:08 PM
 40# floro knots are a bear, I use a vise, pliers, & lube.  Like the other guys said, borderline.
Title: Re: Florocarbon Knots
Post by: deadsmelthead on Feb 06, 2018, 07:03 PM
What kind of fish are yall fishing for with using 40# plus line ?
Title: Re: Florocarbon Knots
Post by: saxmatt on Feb 06, 2018, 09:15 PM
With 60 and 80lb floro I run the line through the eye of the hook and tie a simple loop knot. I've never had the knot slip though I have had a handful of breakoffs over the years, all above the knot. Be careful with crimps, they're great for open water but I've seen them slip several times on the ice. I think the crimps slip because when you pack up at the end of the day and throw your tipups in the sled the water in the crimp freezes and expands the crimp, then it can slip on the next trip.
Title: Re: Florocarbon Knots
Post by: SirCranksalot on Feb 06, 2018, 09:18 PM
What kind of fish are yall fishing for with using 40# plus line ?

Fresh water sharks!! ;D
Title: Re: Florocarbon Knots
Post by: esox_xtm on Feb 06, 2018, 09:50 PM
Simple is better: Palomar or Uni, use plenty of lubrication snugging up. Works great for me up to about 40#.

After that I'm a crimp guy. EZPZ, no slipping issues with the right sleeves, crimper and procedure. Millions of saltwater connections can't lie.
Title: Re: Florocarbon Knots
Post by: kayl on Feb 07, 2018, 12:54 AM
What kind of fish are yall fishing for with using 40# plus line ?

I make leaders for pike and musky. My mainline in summer is 65# braid or 20# mono. 80# is probably light for musky, but I haven't had any issues.
Title: Re: Florocarbon Knots
Post by: deadsmelthead on Feb 07, 2018, 02:30 AM
I make leaders for pike and musky. My mainline in summer is 65# braid or 20# mono. 80# is probably light for musky, but I haven't had any issues.
Ohhhh , well yah thats good for trolling or casting in the open water for Muskies.. Its a completely different animal than Pike through the ice. 😀
Title: Re: Florocarbon Knots
Post by: kayl on Feb 07, 2018, 07:34 AM
Ohhhh , well yah thats good for trolling or casting in the open water for Muskies.. Its a completely different animal than Pike through the ice. 😀

Yeah, but I still made up some quick strike rigs for ice fishing with 40&50# fluoro. Worked well for me and I think fluoro gives you an advantage over wire.
Title: Re: Florocarbon Knots
Post by: deadsmelthead on Feb 07, 2018, 08:53 AM
Yeah, but I still made up some quick strike rigs for ice fishing with 40&50# fluoro. Worked well for me and I think fluoro gives you an advantage over wire.
Ahhh ok gotcha !
Title: Re: Florocarbon Knots
Post by: Capn Ez on Feb 07, 2018, 09:08 AM
I use the uni-knot for just about everything.  It never fails.  Uni-snell on the hook first then uni-knot to the swivel.  I use uni-to-uni to splice lines.  I use 50# fluorocarbon for pike rigs and with 40-50# you can only really get 3 wraps, but that's plenty if you tie the knot well and cinch it down tight with some spit.
Title: Re: Florocarbon Knots
Post by: Captn66 on Feb 13, 2018, 01:25 PM
Used to use the Palomar on everything, but recently started using the nanofil knot for 4 pound and lighter - it's a Palomar with one additional "overhand" run through the loop for lack of a better way to describe it.  Only issue is you need to tie your leader to the swivel first, then tie the swivel to the main line.  Once the leader is connected I tie my hook/jig/lure/etc. on.

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Title: Re: Florocarbon Knots
Post by: copperjig on Feb 18, 2018, 03:43 PM
I am using #30 fluor with a uni.  Never an issue
Title: Re: Florocarbon Knots
Post by: stripernut on Feb 18, 2018, 04:08 PM
Palmar for me and I have land Bluefin tuna over 130lbs on 80lb Fluoro... If you watch the video you can see I put a lot of pressure on the fish (landed in 25 min.)... I knew my knots would hold!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E00KdfvDKY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E00KdfvDKY)
Title: Re: Florocarbon Knots
Post by: farmboy on Mar 07, 2018, 01:19 PM
Palomar all the way on everything I tie
Title: Re: Florocarbon Knots
Post by: lunkerslayer on Mar 07, 2018, 03:23 PM
I use the improved clinch knot with one extra step, I wrap the line around the eye twice on the hook, swivel, or barrel. Then proceed to the clinch knot never had a issue with breaking the knot but i have straightened out a treble hook on a jigging spoon.