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Vermont => Ice Fishing Vermont => Topic started by: PerchSlayer21 on Feb 12, 2016, 12:16 AM
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So I heard that the white perch r back up at st.albans Bay, I heard a guy got 100 pounds of them the other day, can anybody confirm that, prob gonna head up first thing Monday morning with a buddy of mine, try to find them, any help wud b great, and how much ice is up there.
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I can't confirm or deny it. There was one guy out by the buoy the last couple days; but I didn't see any White Perch tallied at the bait shop. They aren't paying much for them (if that matters).
Saw one ATV (first one this year) out by the island...he didn't fish long.
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Ya I'm looking to get enough for a meal, maybe set up few tips ups in shallower for pike maybe, white perch is an amazing eating fish, but nice to have a nice fish fry.
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I just pulled my last bag of fillets from the freezer, hope to catch more soon! All i need is one good trip and I'm set for small fish for the year.
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I walked out from Hathaway yesterday. Couldn't find much of anything. Only a few yellows and no whites. I was out from 1-5 in fifteen feet.
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I walked out from Hathaway yesterday. Couldn't find much of anything. Only a few yellows and no whites. I was out from 1-5 in fifteen feet.
I think generally you're more apt to find them in that shallow late in the season. We have gotten a mess of them out there in like 50 or 60 feet early in the season.
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Has that happened to u this year already, or r u talking in years past, I just wanna get a good mess of them, I'm down in Barre so I don't wanna make that drive all the way up there and get skunked.
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Has that happened to u this year already, or r u talking in years past, I just wanna get a good mess of them, I'm down in Barre so I don't wanna make that drive all the way up there and get skunked.
Give it a couple weeks and your trip will be worthwhile. They tend to be much more elusive until March. If I were to look for them now I would definitely be out deeper than 15'.
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hows the ice out there?
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I drove out to kilcare today and there was still spots with open water
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Hi all, I'm headed out there Monday to try for whites for the first time, anyone willing to share what they use for a rig to catch them? Similar to yellows? Thank you
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I normally start with bibits but have caught them on all different things
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If you get into a big school, which could be in the thousands, they seem to hit anything. When there are only a few, they seem to be more cautious but most jigs tipped with minnow or eye should work.
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They can be overfished. It happened here on Lake Winnipesaukee. Many people in the 70`s-80`s were taking way to many with no limits on them. Guys from VT were coming over and filling the beds of their pickups. You can`t even come close to finding them like that, pretty happy to get 10 or so for a fish fry. Great sushi fish.
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They can be overfished. It happened here on Lake Winnipesaukee. Many people in the 70`s-80`s were taking way to many with no limits on them. Guys from VT were coming over and filling the beds of their pickups. You can`t even come close to finding them like that, pretty happy to get 10 or so for a fish fry. Great sushi fish.
Good luck overfishing them in Lake Champlain. Would be a blessing to rid them though. Hope you at least freeze them to kill off the tapeworms before eating them raw.
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Good luck overfishing them in Lake Champlain. Would be a blessing to rid them though. Hope you at least freeze them to kill off the tapeworms before eating them raw.
Never ever seen any kind of worm or parasite on or in a white, and I`ve fished for them nearly 50 + years.. Some very skilled chefs I know turned me onto them being sushi grade and we`re all still here and healthy. Actually put on 15-20 lbs since eating them this way. I did find the smaller ones more desirable. I take the fillet put it in a zip lock ,pour in about a 1/4 cup of quality soy sauce and let them soak for a day.
Do you guy`s actually find parasites in the whites from Champlain? Just curious if they are susceptible in different environments.
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Do you guy`s actually find parasites in the whites from Champlain? Just curious if they are susceptible in different environments.
never found one in a white perch myself, but all fish are susceptible to parasites. Freezing does kill most of them... a swim in 375 degree oil has been known to kill all of them. ;D
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Haven't seen one either. Not sure if it has to do with habitat but you'd think you'd see at least a few. We know they hang around yellows in the summer in the weeds and also out in the deep, but still I haven't seen any, ever. Pretty interesting.
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Never ever seen any kind of worm or parasite on or in a white, and I`ve fished for them nearly 50 + years.. Some very skilled chefs I know turned me onto them being sushi grade and we`re all still here and healthy. Actually put on 15-20 lbs since eating them this way. I did find the smaller ones more desirable. I take the fillet put it in a zip lock ,pour in about a 1/4 cup of quality soy sauce and let them soak for a day.
Do you guy`s actually find parasites in the whites from Champlain? Just curious if they are susceptible in different environments.
You can't always see parasites or bacteria growing on or in fish. It's always better to be safe than sorry. By law, even sushi grade tuna must be frozen for a certain amount of time to kill parasites. Here is a good page on parasites of freshwater fish.
http://www.seagrant.umn.edu/fisheries/parasites#common (http://www.seagrant.umn.edu/fisheries/parasites#common)
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You can't always see parasites or bacteria growing on or in fish. It's always better to be safe than sorry. By law, even sushi grade tuna must be frozen for a certain amount of time to kill parasites. Here is a good page on parasites of freshwater fish.
http://www.seagrant.umn.edu/fisheries/parasites#common (http://www.seagrant.umn.edu/fisheries/parasites#common)
Thanks for the info that is a great response. The tapeworm thing kind of got to me ;D
Here are some NH whites I caught as the storm fired up last night, some of the biggest I`ve ever caught. 2 biggest were 15" and just shy of 3#
(http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m553/dunphy111/IMG_20160215_190302193.jpg) (http://s1131.photobucket.com/user/dunphy111/media/IMG_20160215_190302193.jpg.html)
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Nice whites! They look like footballs!
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Nice catch! I didn't mean to sound paranoid about parasites, I just figured I'd pass on what I learned about eating fish raw. Also, about my comment on overfishing whites in Lake Champlain, they are not native and are seen by many fisherman as a nuisance to the yellow perch and walleye population (possible others) as they compete and eat young and eggs.
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There's a mess of whites. Good eats.
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Nice catch! I didn't mean to sound paranoid about parasites, I just figured I'd pass on what I learned about eating fish raw. Also, about my comment on overfishing whites in Lake Champlain, they are not native and are seen by many fisherman as a nuisance to the yellow perch and walleye population (possible others) as they compete and eat young and eggs.
[/quote All good man! I know whites are seen as invasive in Maine also. Yellows in certain water bodies are considered invasive too in Maine. I just see whites as an exceptionall clean table fish, and people compete for good spots to catch them. I don`t keep any more than I can eat as I don`t really like them , or any other fish as much after they have been frozen. But they are really great sushi. I tried the soy bath and found it the best way for me to enjoy them raw. Good luck with catching what you enjoy to eat!
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got into them, little over 100# big jumbos mostly.
couldn't get to the big yellows thru all the whites
(http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd505/mudchuck/IMG_2328.jpg) (http://s1223.photobucket.com/user/mudchuck/media/IMG_2328.jpg.html)
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got into them, little over 100# big jumbos mostly.
couldn't get to the big yellows thru all the whites
(http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd505/mudchuck/IMG_2328.jpg) (http://s1223.photobucket.com/user/mudchuck/media/IMG_2328.jpg.html)
Did you loose your Marcum ???
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Mudchuck were you using a bibbet or something else? Spikes or perch eyes? Tried a little bit of everything today and couldn't get them figured out.
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Now there is a nice catch of Perch. Some poor mans shrimp with cocktail sauce and a few cold ones just because.
I completely understand that! Yum
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yes thanks for getting me my flasher that fell off coming onto shore.
those whites only want live and dead/cut minnows.
the yellows liked the cut minnows too.
tried crawlers and nothing but dinks would take them.
loads of bait showing up on the flasher too.
never bothered with the spikes since the minnows worked well.
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Are they still in deeper water or are they coming in closer to shore?
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Headed to the bay tomorrow to try to find some whites with my boy. We fished them twice last year and he has been stuck on it since. Any insight on where to start? Last year I think we started near a green can and worked that area. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Don't mind sharing since I don't fish them and the markets crap. The green can between Hathaway PT and rock island is holding a lot of fish right now. Pretty tight lipped but we managed to catch some once we finally found them. They are fun to catch for sure. Enjoy!
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Awesome thanks. Everyone keeps asking "why would you want to fish them? They aren't worth anything". If you have ever watch a 12 year old boy pulling slab after slab white perch you would know why.
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I have gotten my full years supply of panfish in a single trip 3 years in a row, and they are delicious. I would also say that several of my fishing buddies would pick a white perch day as their favorite ice fishing trip. Hope to catch a mountain of them on Sunday!
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Awesome thanks. Everyone keeps asking "why would you want to fish them? They aren't worth anything". If you have ever watch a 12 year old boy pulling slab after slab white perch you would know why.
That's what it's all about.
Hope you guys get into them
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Anyone have tips on what to use for bait? Will they bite a bare bibbit?
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Minnows or cut bait they won't touch anything else
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Last year we did really well with spikes or small chunks of nightcrawler on small jigs. Sounds like they are being a little finicky so far this year, though!
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I had good look with eyes on a orange and white bibbot
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Thanks a lot for the info. Does anyone know if they are driving atvs out?
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Thanks a lot for the info. Does anyone know if they are driving atvs out?
As of yesterday: No.
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Anyone going out tomorrow and does the bait shop open?
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Minnows or cut bait they won't touch anything else
guess my secret is out now...LOL
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What do you guys mean by "cut bait"?
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We were unable to find the whites today. Searched all over. Popped about 100 holes and was not marking many. A few here and there but definitely not a large school where we searched!!!
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We were out there also just off the point.
We had to search too but ended with a bucket each.
Bite shut off about 9:30/10:00.
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Is Kilkare safe to access from?
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Yea it's all nasty anchor ice. Thick enough. Just rough dragging.
Where you in the shappell Vermont Mike? Or were you in the black shanty with the jiffy auger?
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Black shanty was me
Was that you in the clam?
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I was the one walking around drilling holes all over like an idiot lol. I went inbetween you and shore and headed up toward the boat launch a bit before I gave up.
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Any size to the fish?
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The ones we did get were nice. Just not lots of them. Had plenty for a meal. And they were tasty!!!
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I'll be out there Sunday early if anybody wants to meet up.
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What do you guys mean by "cut bait"?
A small piece of the side flesh of a bait fish...with skin attached. Gives it a lot of smell.
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A small piece of the side flesh of a bait fish...with skin attached. Gives it a lot of smell.
Makes sense. Thanks
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Loving this weather we're having. I should sell inflatable rafts at launches to people heading out on the ice. Make a killing.
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Please do, I will line you up a few customers, for a percentage of course! ;D
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The whites are definatly there and you dont need cutbait. I was way away from the pack yesturday and pulled a very good amount. I drilled about 20 holes and then kept circling through them. Biggest was 14.5 inches at 1 pound 12 ounces https://www.instagram.com/p/BCEhpTbE-S1/?taken-by=johnrielly
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The whites are definatly there and you dont need cutbait. I was way away from the pack yesturday and pulled a very good amount. I drilled about 20 holes and then kept circling through them. Biggest was 14.5 inches at 1 pound 12 ounces https://www.instagram.com/p/BCEhpTbE-S1/?taken-by=johnrielly
Nice! Saw your pic on the master angler page today. Made the 13" one I posted today look small.
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Nice! Saw your pic on the master angler page today. Made the 13" one I posted today look small.
I got a 14" that will go up there soon, doesn't look anywhere near as big as john's though... Curse these big hands. Got a MA seed on the walk off too. We started away from the crowd but mysteriously we were in the middle of it after a few hours.
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I ended up with three 13 inchers. two 13.5 inchers a 14 and that 14.5. Good day for size.
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We still have whites in the freezer from last year, but we love to fish them. Do places buy these live weight? I heard someone say before that the market is crap, does that mean that they hardly pay anything for them?
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I havent checked this year. But last year the highest I saw was 30 cents per pound
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How much ice is on the bay
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8-10"
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Do places buy these live weight? I heard someone say before that the market is crap, does that mean that they hardly pay anything for them?
Last I saw this year they're paying $0.20/lbs for smalls, and $0.40/lbs for large
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Last I saw this year they're paying $0.20/lbs for smalls, and $0.40/lbs for large
Biiiiiiiiiiig money!
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Last I saw this year they're paying $0.20/lbs for smalls, and $0.40/lbs for large
Only going to get worse... you guys need to get into white perch futures!
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perch bellies....ny stock exchange
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Hi I'm from ny and was wondering if anyone is selling white perch i am willing to pay 50 cents a pound for big ones and I'll drive up there to pick it up I'm looking to buy over 100 pounds anyone intrested send me a message
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i've got 50 cent bid do I hear 60?
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60 cents for the big ones ;D
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Hi I'm from ny and was wondering if anyone is selling white perch i am willing to pay 50 cents a pound for big ones and I'll drive up there to pick it up I'm looking to buy over 100 pounds anyone intrested send me a message
where were you last week when I had over 100# of large/jumbos?!