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Shimano Curado BFS
« on: Jan 06, 2022, 11:15 AM »
Shimano Curado BFS: retails $189.99

Small low profile casting reel with 6.2 oz weight, 8.2 gear ratio, Finesse Tuned Brake, clicking drag, shallow spool capacity, 7+1 bearing system.

It's about time that there actually exist a bait casting reel that can functionally be tasked for ice fishing available at the local tackle store.  Out of the box impression was that it was not quite as smooth operation as the just recently discontinued Curado 70 casting reel.  This reel is also a bit lighter in weight compared to the Curado 70 reel coming in at 6.8 oz and compared to the older Curado 50E at 6.9 oz. weight. It is just heavier when compared to the much older Chronarch 50Mg at 6.0 oz. weight.

One of the best feature is the shallow spool that's ideal for ice fishing application.  For one thing I don't need to fill it with any line backing.  I can just tie onto with my braid line direct to the spool.  Wait there's that braid slipping if done so.  Well then there's a trick to it.  It's a somewhat complicated chinese finger trap line tie onto the spool.  The reversing pinch of the overhand knots binds the overall line.  It took about five wraps per side to hold it, so a crisscross of 10 wraps.  I spool about 70 cranks of line onto the spool.  That's more than enough for just ice fishing and a flexible safety amount for any possible open water fishing to be done with in the future.  As so far for usage, it's holding and no spool slippage.

The other best feature is the clicking drag sound when the drag is slipping.  It sounds just like a spinning reel drag clicker.  For operation purpose, it provides a very useful feedback on how powerful a fish is.  However from initial checking on the drag operation I was only getting a very light drag force.  Shimano list the drag to have an 8 pound of drag force, but when I pull line off the drag with the drag star basically locked down I was getting about 2 pounds of drag force.  I was using the line tied onto my fish weighing scale.  This showed up while using the reel out on the field.  The drag slipped on just about every fish I hooked into.  Normally I would not expect a 9" crappie to peel drag from my reel so easily.  Yet it was happening.  Even when I hooked into a few 13" to 15" walleyes, the drag was definitely sounding off like a big fish was on the end.  The outcome is that I would get drag slippage the moment I set the hook.  After some use of like three or four trips, the drag on the BFS reel has increased in range on both the lower end setting to a softer light drag pressure and on the high end where locking down the drag star has put a significant increase on the drag pressure.

Unique to this BFS reel is the Finesse Tuned Brake system that was passed down from the development on the Aldebaran BFS reel.  It's takes advantage of a magnetic system that uses a centrifugal force braking concept.  As for ice fishing application there isn't truly a need for a braking mechanism.  Most ice fishing lures are on the light weight spectrum.  1/4 oz. weight feels like a heavyweight.  1/8th oz. weight are solid bottom droppers.  1/16th to 1/32nd oz. weights are good fluttering presentation.  Since I am using braids, I am not sure if that's attributing to or against the performance.  I will note the the sinking braid of YGK G-Soul SS112 in 10# aids in the sink rate of very light lure in 1/32nd oz. or lighter.

Out there on the freezing cold weather, this reel did experience some slight sluggishness.  That is normal operation when all other reels were feeling the cold sluggishness too.  Once in the warmed up shack, the reel started to operate smoothly.  I did had to loosen the spool tension knob, as it seems the cold made the material on the spool shaft ends more stiff on the contact points. I have been using the reel on both the Thorne Bros. Panfish and Perch Sweetheart 32" Custom rods.  Of which I previously were using the Curado 70HG reels on.  From jigging light weight lures, there is a slight difference in reel weight feel compared to the Curado 70HG.

Overall this is a very useful reel for ice fishing.  It's got the right features.

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Re: Shimano Curado BFS
« Reply #1 on: Jun 23, 2022, 12:15 AM »
1st season in after action review...

There are a lot of good things to be said about this reel, but more notable are the things that needs improvement or becomes a learning experience.  For the first thing is the drag clicker.  I'm used to the silent drags of the other bait casting reels so when I finesse jig down by pushing the spool with my thumb to ever add inches of line, I get that audible click now.  The overall drag is more finesse.  It has less drag force and much less than the specs given to it.  It's suppose to have like 8 pounds of max drag force but it doesn't achieve it.  In a way it's good as it protects the line from breaking on a fish, but not so good as it seems like the fish is more likely to peel line.  For sure if I was gauging a smaller fish to one that's a bit larger, yes the drag clicking away tells me that directly.

I personally have never been a fan of having the external brake adjustments.  For one thing, it's easier to get dust, dirt, grime into that area.  Hence if I was catching lots of fish, yeah and handling lots of minnows.  Since I've been attentive, I hadn't gotten any gunk into that opening.  Just some minnow scales onto the rod handle and handle knobs of the reels. Not that I need to adjust the brakes for vertical ice fishing.  It's set to zero or rather it says 1.

Not that I actually sat there and timed the drop rate of lure from the spool.  In my presumption, I thought the drop rate would've been slower as since the magnetic braking would stay in effect.  While actually out there I did not notice that at all.  It was within the same normal fall rate I was getting with my other casting reels comparing the Chronarch 50Mg, Curado 50E, and Curado 70Hg.  At such finesse presentation, the fall rate was more affected by line diameter size as lures gets much much lighter in weight.

The two braids I used were YGK G-Soul SS112 in 10# and YGK G-Soul Upgrade X-8 in 14# listed.  To my surprise the SS112 line that was a bit more surface texture manages to lay on the spool very well.  Although I could hear some slight buzzing while winching the line back, it is forgotten when there is a fish on the end of the line.  All braids seems to make a humming noise, some very rough texture ones one can feel the vibration along with the noise.  These thin diameter lines that I'm using still give me a slight noise if I listen for it.  For one thing about have an 8.2 gear ratio is that line recovery was quite fast.  Vertical ice fishing, one doesn't notice it as much since often I'm fishing at a depth of 20 feet or less.  However when going back and forth on my other reels of 6 gear ratio it becomes noticeable.

Honestly I am favoring this reel more and more.  Not because it's just newer, but yeah it's functionality really hits the spot.  For sure on the casting reel, the spool plays so much a role.  A lighter, more shallow spool makes a lot of difference.  I spool up less line and it's just ice fishing.  The line on the spool is at a larger diameter circumference, thus should aid in better line drop and much better line retrieval. 

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Re: Shimano Curado BFS
« Reply #2 on: Jun 23, 2022, 03:35 AM »
  It's suppose to have like 8 pounds of max drag force but it doesn't achieve it.  In a way it's good as it protects the line from breaking on a fish, but not so good as it seems like the fish is more likely to peel line.
  Could be a lubricant thing, some drags are dry some are lubed.  If you pull the discs out and they are very oily clean them up a bit and try again.  You can also lightly abrade the discs to create more friction.

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I thought the drop rate would've been slower as since the magnetic braking would stay in effect.  While actually out there I did not notice that at all.
  It's not the magnets themselves that apply the breaking force but currents within an electromagnetic field generated by the spool rotating in proximity to the magnets.  The slower the rotation the weaker the field.  The spool doesn't spin fast enough on a straight drop when compared to a cast to have any effect.
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Shimano Curado BFS and Scorpion BFS
« Reply #3 on: Nov 21, 2023, 08:02 PM »
It's been another year gone by and I sort of have additional input

Old reel compared to new(er) reel.

Shimano Scorpion BFS and Shimano Curado BFS casting reels.

Scorpion BFS original retails for around $350 USD (at the exchange rate at production) compared to the released Curado BFS at $200.  In 2021 the Curado BFS was born from the Scorpion BFS that had been retired.  A lot of the Shimano reels have a retail production of about 4-6 years.  In Japan it is the SLX BFS reel.

Anyway these reels share the same parts like 99% interchangeable.  The Curado BFS compared to it's prior version the Curado 70I series seems to not feel as solid.  However when given the lighter lure used for casting the BFS version most certainly get's better cast distance as well as expand the range into much lighter weights.  Although I mostly used these reels for ice fishing and that was their primary use, there is an experience to be felt for open water use as well.

In terms of smoothness and operational use, the older Curado 70 has better refinement.  However for ice fishing practicality, the Curado BFS functionally is better.  The larger arbor of the spool makes a lot of difference.  To also have a lighter spool weight also means that those tiny ice fishing lures are able to pull line off more freely.  I still have to manually pull line off when using light weights of like 1/32 oz or light but that is the same on spinning reels too.  This is almost like a game changer, but more so of practical refinement.  Plus have a clicking drag pull is the biggest advantage.

Thus this led to a comparison of the older Scorpion BFS reel with it's replacement Curado BFS.  In use and function, the replacement did not do a better job overall.  However, when considering the retail pricing, it is what it is.  The affordability and exposure of BFS to consumers is the goal.  While the older Scorpion BFS pricing strictly only targeted purist.  In real world practicality, it is that the Scorpion BFS is superior in many subtle ways.  For sure final product representation with a better paint job sort of clues in to final assembly and performance of unit. That in a nutshell is why I gotten my hands on a Curado BFS reel for ice fishing before I gotten a Scorpion BFS reel.

In comparison the Scorpion does have a smoother feel in empty operation.  A quick check of even the star drag and thumbing down the spool to check the drag pressure operatoin is also better.  Free spool spin on empty also smoother and quieter in operation.  For ice fishing, yes it did everything that the Curado BFS reel did, and with a subtle but obvious refinement over that of the Curado BFS.  Perhaps it all has to due with the better bearings found on the Scorpion BFS.  There is also the price difference that hints towards the performance difference.  For full sized rod casting performance, the Scorpion BFS operationally is better as well.  Further casting distance, easier to achieve distance with less effort, less line fluff during and at end of casting. 

The Scorpion also has a stronger initial drag pressure over that of the Curado BFS.  I turned the drag pressure up on the Curado BFS to test it out with my fish scale.  I was pulling drag from it with easily less than 3# of force pull.  Shimano has the reel listed at max drag of 8#.  I wasn't getting anywhere near that.  Repeated the same test on the Scorpion BFS and it was above 6# of force pull.  If I remember right, Shimano of Japan listed the Scorpion BFS at 7# of max drag.  Anyway I really need only like 2# of drag force for ice fishing for crappies even less probably.

Now for catching fish on these reels.  They perform awesome, so much that I feel like I'm cheating the fish on the winching in part.  Part of it is being a bait casting reel set up, the avoidance of unnecessaries of tip bounce from the spinning rotor function is the game changer.  All I have to do is point the rod tip towards the hole and position it properly above and it's very smooth fish fight.  The added clicking drag feature aids in adjusting toward a fish pull charging run.  You know when you got a bigger fish if the drag clicker sounds off.  You know when you've got a big fish run when the drag clicker is screaming. 

If I had owned the Scorpion BFS before the Curado BFS I would have been disappointed.  Since it was the other way newer is not always better.  Cheaper more affordable isn't so bad either.  So that's how it is.
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