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Title: Ice In on Winni
Post by: bassin212 on Jan 20, 2020, 09:03 AM
According to WMUR "Ice In" has officially been declared.

https://www.wmur.com/article/ice-in-declared-for-lake-winnipesaukee-2020/30595457?fbclid=IwAR28g0kMI2jxrbbPgHCC9rpZL6z1F7jxgY_yselBSF7CG5aXWssRt9JkZBA#

No, this doesn't mean the whole lake is safe

No, this doesn't mean you can bring your truck, 4 wheeler and snowmobile on the ice

No, not every public access and cove is safe.

but, we're making progress!
Title: Re: Ice In on Winni
Post by: jethro on Jan 20, 2020, 09:25 AM
What the h-ll... There is a TON of open water on Winni. Seems really strange to me but whatever, I don't have a plane.
Title: Re: Ice In on Winni
Post by: Gold Rush on Jan 20, 2020, 09:34 AM
A "Declaration" like that this year can make some people make stupid decisions.
Title: Re: Ice In on Winni
Post by: bassin212 on Jan 20, 2020, 09:41 AM
I think all that snow is making it look like "Ice In" and then that snow will freeze into bad ice. I wonder if they do it as a publicity stunt in hopes to attract more people to start booking places to stay for their ice fishing weekend and sell more derby tickets.
Title: Re: Ice In on Winni
Post by: jethro on Jan 20, 2020, 10:03 AM
I think all that snow is making it look like "Ice In" and then that snow will freeze into bad ice. I wonder if they do it as a publicity stunt in hopes to attract more people to start booking places to stay for their ice fishing weekend and sell more derby tickets.

I bet you are right. I guess the good news is that it's going to remain cold this week, so hopefully that bad ice turns a little better. I know the spot that my buddy puts his hard side is open water right now, as we speak. And it usually freezes early. Strange year for ice.
Title: Re: Ice In on Winni
Post by: bassin212 on Jan 20, 2020, 10:14 AM
well looks like the cold is here to stay, hopefully less snow and more cold weather leading up to the derby! at least things have started on most of the lake now.
Title: Re: Ice In on Winni
Post by: 800stealth on Jan 20, 2020, 10:33 AM
I always thought ice in and out didn't actually have to do with the lake locking with ice, I thought it had to do with the Mt. Washington not being able to dock at all its ports. but maybe the tour guy on the Mt. Washington didn't have a clue when he said that lol
Title: Re: Ice In on Winni
Post by: Brownbagger247 on Jan 20, 2020, 10:38 AM
They declared ice in Jan 14th last year and that was an amazing season I highly doubt it to be 6 days later this year. Just because it holds snow doesn’t mean it’ll hold you.

This is such a bad declaration because it is going to give people a false confidence.. well the weekend warrriors  and out of staters at least. They better have rescue on stand by after posting something like this.

Title: Re: Ice In on Winni
Post by: Brownbagger247 on Jan 20, 2020, 10:42 AM
I always thought ice in and out didn't actually have to do with the lake locking with ice, I thought it had to do with the Mt. Washington not being able to dock at all its ports. but maybe the tour guy on the Mt. Washington didn't have a clue when he said that lol


 “ICE IN”


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Title: Re: Ice In on Winni
Post by: SHaRPS on Jan 20, 2020, 10:43 AM
They declared ice in Jan 14th last year and that was an amazing season I highly doubt it to be 6 days later this year. Just because it holds snow doesn’t mean it’ll hold you.

This is such a bad declaration because it is going to give people a false confidence.. well the weekend warrriors  and out of staters at least. They better have rescue on stand by after posting something like this.


I know 2 out of staters that will be just fine. Where are you Joe? lol

Title: Re: Ice In on Winni
Post by: Dickbakers on Jan 20, 2020, 10:44 AM
 ::)Ice In is only when the mt. Washington  "Ports" are frozen.  Has nothing to do with the broad lake.  But, the snow machines will soon be skimming the big water :P :P
Dick
Title: Re: Ice In on Winni
Post by: zwiggles on Jan 20, 2020, 11:13 AM
“Ice In” as I know it is declared by Emerson Aviation, and happens when the FLY over the lake, and see it is totally covered in something not water. In this case snow/ice that surely isn’t fishable without a boat.

However, it was in fact cover when they FLEW their plane OVER the lake. It had nothing to do with fishable ice, but I suspect BB is right in that it will bring up some fisher people in hopes that everything is safe. The ice this year certainly is not “safe”.

Ice out conversely is declared when the Mt can make it to all of its ports. It does not mean the lake is free of ice.

That’s my understanding at least.
Title: Re: Ice In on Winni
Post by: Lv2hunt on Jan 20, 2020, 11:31 AM
The official ice in is called when all five of the mounts ports are frozen in. so in reality the broads can be open water but still declared ice in. Be very cautious out there i read that a new hampshire man died sunday when his snowmobile went through moosehead lake in maine which has been frozen for a little while. Use your head people its your own life go check the ice first hand stop listening to others. It would be tragic if someone fell through because someone said it was safe but the end of the day that person that gave you the info is still fishing and going home to their family. Sorry i know we been talking about this to exhaustion but i feel its not getting through to people.
Title: Re: Ice In on Winni
Post by: rmoody79 on Jan 20, 2020, 11:38 AM
Meatandmetal is very late to this thread....
Title: Re: Ice In on Winni
Post by: jpease on Jan 20, 2020, 11:49 AM
The official ice in is called when all five of the mounts ports are frozen in. so in reality the broads can be open water but still declared ice in. Be very cautious out there i read that a new hampshire man died sunday when his snowmobile went through moosehead lake in maine which has been frozen for a little while. Use your head people its your own life go check the ice first hand stop listening to others. It would be tragic if someone fell through because someone said it was safe but the end of the day that person that gave you the info is still fishing and going home to their family. Sorry i know we been talking about this to exhaustion but i feel its not getting through to people.
This guy went through at a spot that is known to never safely freeze. It is a shame but not uncommon. Use your heads people! My heart goes out to his wife that was out riding with him that day.
No one should assume anything, let's get home safe guys!
Title: Re: Ice In on Winni
Post by: AQUAASSASSIN on Jan 20, 2020, 12:03 PM
This guy went through at a spot that is known to never safely freeze. It is a shame but not uncommon. Use your heads people! My heart goes out to his wife that was out riding with him that day.
No one should assume anything, let's get home safe guys!

I echo all of this! Now que the other 40 ice conditions posts for the week!
Title: Re: Ice In on Winni
Post by: Roccus on Jan 20, 2020, 12:09 PM
a little over 20 years ago, I attended and participated in a Ice safety and self rescue  class in Maine, the one theme that was repeated time after  time during the coarse was there is no such thing as safe ice...

Ice is a fickle medium, it can be extremely strong, it can be deceivingly weak, many factors go into the compositions and degradation of it... most savvy ice fisherman know moving water attracts fish, most ,not all understand to use caution near it, natural springs can keep ice thin in areas even when the ice is being measured in feet and not inches.. local knowledge or years of experience can be the difference between a successful day outdoor and a tragic one.

The lake I spend the majority of my time on, has 2 notorious bad spots that NEVER freeze safely, I warn anyone I talk to on the lake not to pass these spots, no matter how safe it looks, they are NEVER safe... last year I watched a caravan of 4 wheelers during the derby almost drive right into open water, even when the ice I was fishing on was over 2' thick...had the wind not been wiping white caps that morning it might have ended differently..

all we have to do is go back the derby weekend 2 years ago, to see the result of a bad day on Winni.

Lets all show a little compassion towards each other  and advise those ( as most of us have been) of the dangers of walking on unfamiliar ice..

 Be safe everyone
   Roc
Title: Re: Ice In on Winni
Post by: PoolGuy on Jan 20, 2020, 12:37 PM
a little over 20 years ago, I attended and participated in a Ice safety and self rescue  class in Maine, the one theme that was repeated time after  time during the coarse was there is no such thing as safe ice...

Ice is a fickle medium, it can be extremely strong, it can be deceivingly weak, many factors go into the compositions and degradation of it... most savvy ice fisherman know moving water attracts fish, most ,not all understand to use caution near it, natural springs can keep ice thin in areas even when the ice is being measured in feet and not inches.. local knowledge or years of experience can be the difference between a successful day outdoor and a tragic one.

The lake I spend the majority of my time on, has 2 notorious bad spots that NEVER freeze safely, I warn anyone I talk to on the lake not to pass these spots, no matter how safe it looks, they are NEVER safe... last year I watched a
caravan of 4 wheelers during the derby almost drive right into open water, even when the ice I was fishing on was over 2' thick...had the wind not been wiping white caps that morning it might have ended differently..













all we have to do is go back the derby weekend 2 years ago, to see the result of a bad day on Winni.

Lets all show a little compassion towards each other  and advise those ( as most of us have been) of the dangers of walking on unfamiliar ice..

 Be safe everyone
   Roc

Well said Joe
Title: Re: Ice In on Winni
Post by: zwiggles on Jan 20, 2020, 12:37 PM
Well said Joe

X2, very well said!
Title: Re: Ice In on Winni
Post by: SHaRPS on Jan 20, 2020, 01:29 PM
X2, very well said!

X3.

You are spot on Joe - if it was not for those white caps, you would have no idea that this spot was unsafe unless you had the previous knowledge of it.
Title: Re: Ice In on Winni
Post by: SALMONEMIA on Jan 20, 2020, 05:22 PM
well said Joe and sadly I was out there when the recovered that kid, sad day...….. be safe out there
Title: Re: Ice In on Winni
Post by: Brownbagger247 on Jan 21, 2020, 06:53 AM
News down here in Massachusetts spreading the news of "ice in" on Winnipesaukee.  They show old footage of trucks driving on the ice, snowmobiles, loading ice houses.
Hate to say it, but here we go.
Not long before the first report of someone "testing the ice" with a late model SUV.
.......3.......2...... ..1......


Exactly.. it’s bad just wait for this weekend.
Title: Re: Ice In on Winni
Post by: lv2huntandfish on Jan 21, 2020, 09:34 AM
Ohh man I'm sure everyone will have their panties in a bunch. Emerson aviation is spot burning and reporting conditions. Since when does declaring " ice in" mean safe ice? Use your heads no lake is ever completely safe.
Title: Re: Ice In on Winni
Post by: mowbizz on Jan 21, 2020, 01:45 PM
Guys with snow blowers were all over Meredith bay today clearing hockey rinks, probably. Also a couple of Kubota tractors over closer to the Lago building. They must be getting on the ice over that way because no one has used the town docks ramp...also no bob houses at all out there.
Title: Re: Ice In on Winni
Post by: swnoel on Jan 22, 2020, 09:20 AM
News down here in Massachusetts spreading the news of "ice in" on Winnipesaukee.  They show old footage of trucks driving on the ice, snowmobiles, loading ice houses.
Hate to say it, but here we go.
Not long before the first report of someone "testing the ice" with a late model SUV.
.......3.......2...... ..1......

Also saw the same thing on our NH tv station... I mentioned to my wife how stupid they were using that old clip with vehicles driving all over it, many imbeciles will believe it was of that day!!
Title: Re: Ice In on Winni
Post by: nhbowhunter on Jan 23, 2020, 05:03 AM
 has any one been by levitt park yet... I know I have to check the ice myself . but its a hour and a half from my house . I don't want to drive up there  for a inch of ice..  thanks  and stay safe this season
Title: Re: Ice In on Winni
Post by: Brownbagger247 on Jan 23, 2020, 05:52 AM
has any one been by levitt park yet... I know I have to check the ice myself . but its a hour and a half from my house . I don't want to drive up there  for a inch of ice..  thanks  and stay safe this season

Looks good from here...
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