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Offline Tomhusker

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Which knot?
« on: Nov 20, 2011, 10:50 PM »
 This is my first year using tip ups and was wondering which knot is best to join the backing line to the leader?
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Re: Which knot?
« Reply #1 on: Nov 20, 2011, 11:58 PM »
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Offline ddl

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Re: Which knot?
« Reply #2 on: Nov 21, 2011, 07:43 AM »
blood get my vote
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Re: Which knot?
« Reply #3 on: Nov 21, 2011, 08:01 AM »
A swivel tied between the main line and your leader will save you a lot of aggravation from line twist and tangles !
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Re: Which knot?
« Reply #4 on: Nov 21, 2011, 09:20 AM »
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Re: Which knot?
« Reply #5 on: Nov 21, 2011, 09:24 AM »
Quote from: surflizard on Nov 21, 2011, 08:01 AM
A swivel tied between the main line and your leader will save you a lot of aggravation from line twist and tangles !

X2

Simple, quick and effective. I use a small snap on the end of the leader to make changing between wire quick strike pike rigs and fluoro walleye leaders easier.
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Offline Master Angler

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Re: Which knot?
« Reply #6 on: Nov 21, 2011, 10:09 AM »
x3 on the swivel, line twist on tipups sucks.
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Offline CJW

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Re: Which knot?
« Reply #7 on: Nov 21, 2011, 10:30 AM »
Tie on a snap and swivel.  Makes changing between rigs super fast and easy.

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Offline the fishing gene

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Re: Which knot?
« Reply #8 on: Nov 21, 2011, 10:55 AM »
Great site for Knots Idahogator!

I agree tie a swivel between the main tipup line and the rest. I'm big on the Trilene Knot because I have been tying it for years and it's never let me down.
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Offline wax_worm

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Re: Which knot?
« Reply #9 on: Nov 21, 2011, 10:58 AM »
Albright, blood or double uni knot should do it if you don't go with the swivel suggestion.
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Re: Which knot?
« Reply #10 on: Nov 21, 2011, 11:06 AM »
Quote from: the fishing gene on Nov 21, 2011, 10:55 AM
Great site for Knots Idahogator!

I agree tie a swivel between the main tipup line and the rest. I'm big on the Trilene Knot because I have been tying it for years and it's never let me down.
Thank ye kindly! I'll try to do better next time.   :woot: :thumbsup: :roflmao:
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Offline Todd_NE

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Re: Which knot?
« Reply #11 on: Nov 21, 2011, 02:14 PM »
I'm a fan of the Albright knot.
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Offline stripernut

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Re: Which knot?
« Reply #12 on: Nov 21, 2011, 03:38 PM »
For me the swivel make to much sense!!!
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Re: Which knot?
« Reply #13 on: Nov 21, 2011, 05:31 PM »
double uni x 1000
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Offline Tomhusker

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Re: Which knot?
« Reply #14 on: Nov 21, 2011, 06:09 PM »
Quote from: stripernut on Nov 21, 2011, 03:38 PM
For me the swivel make to sense!!!

 Yup, I'll go with the swivel. Thanks guys!!

 
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Offline UFCreel

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Re: Which knot?
« Reply #15 on: Nov 22, 2011, 05:43 AM »
Uni to uni knot gets the call for this.
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Re: Which knot?
« Reply #16 on: Nov 22, 2011, 09:09 PM »
Quote from: surflizard on Nov 21, 2011, 08:01 AM
A swivel tied between the main line and your leader will save you a lot of aggravation from line twist and tangles !

X 2 I actually tie a barrel swivel on the end of my dacron, then attach my fluorocarbon leader to a snap swivel that attaches to the barrel swivel...makes changing leaders a snap...
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Offline tipup7

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Re: Which knot?
« Reply #17 on: Nov 23, 2011, 03:49 PM »
To me, using a barrel swivel is the only way.
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Re: Which knot?
« Reply #18 on: Nov 23, 2011, 06:31 PM »
Swivel is important, but a barrel swivel will not help with line twist, you would need a good quality Ball Bearing swivel like a Sampo to do any good with line twist...
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Re: Which knot?
« Reply #19 on: Nov 27, 2011, 02:22 PM »
And, as with so many other things in life, I do it backwards.....

A plain snap (no swivel) on the spool line. Each leader is made with a swivel so swapping out is easy. This allows one less piece of hardware on the rig

As for swivel quality? I'm not sure if ball bearings are necessary on tip ups; there just isn't that much twisting that goes on in my experience. I do like SPRO Power Swivels (the crane version); highly polished lack finish stainless steel, the next smoothest thing to a BB and very strong for their size.

Oh, the knot? Unis for most everything... If you don't like swivels put the Uni back-to-back.

Just my opinion based on my experience.... User mileage may vary.

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Re: Which knot?
« Reply #20 on: Nov 27, 2011, 02:24 PM »
Quote from: Tomhusker on Nov 20, 2011, 10:50 PM
This is my first year using tip ups and was wondering which knot is best to join the backing line to the leader?
Uni to uni knot if you are not using a barrel swivel. If you are using a swivel then I just use the improved.
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Re: Which knot?
« Reply #21 on: Nov 27, 2011, 04:25 PM »
I use a ball bearing snap on my Dacron. then swivels on premade leaders for quick change outs as needed.  ;)
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Re: Which knot?
« Reply #22 on: Nov 29, 2011, 09:48 PM »
I use the Palomar on my warm weather fishing gear, would that work?

And how long should my leaders be? Should they match the test weight of my backing line? Running 40# braided tip up line.

 
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Re: Which knot?
« Reply #23 on: Nov 30, 2011, 06:40 AM »
Quote from: Tomhusker on Nov 29, 2011, 09:48 PM
I use the Palomar on my warm weather fishing gear, would that work?

And how long should my leaders be? Should they match the test weight of my backing line? Running 40# braided tip up line.

 

Polamer will work to connect your braided and leader to the swivel.  I snell all my own hooks when attaching hooks to the leader.

Leader strength does not have to match your braided......that will depend on what you are fishing for!  I use 35 lb braided dacron for my braid and go with 4 - 6 pound floro when targeting trout and 25 lb mono when targeting pike / bass / pickerel. 

I tend to go very long with my leaders.....at least 6 foot.  Lots of opinions on that though!  Just keep in mind if you are using polar style tip ups that have to feed the line through an eye you may have to shorten that leader if fishing shallow water.........don't want to have the swivel go through the eye and get hung up!
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Re: Which knot?
« Reply #24 on: Nov 30, 2011, 08:50 AM »
Quote from: jiml on Nov 30, 2011, 06:40 AM
Polamer will work to connect your braided and leader to the swivel.  I snell all my own hooks when attaching hooks to the leader.

Leader strength does not have to match your braided......that will depend on what you are fishing for!  I use 35 lb braided dacron for my braid and go with 4 - 6 pound floro when targeting trout and 25 lb mono when targeting pike / bass / pickerel. 

I tend to go very long with my leaders.....at least 6 foot.  Lots of opinions on that though!  Just keep in mind if you are using polar style tip ups that have to feed the line through an eye you may have to shorten that leader if fishing shallow water.........don't want to have the swivel go through the eye and get hung up!

Thanks. Do I also use a steel leader when targeting pike?
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Re: Which knot?
« Reply #25 on: Nov 30, 2011, 08:55 AM »
Quote from: Tomhusker on Nov 30, 2011, 08:50 AM
Thanks. Do I also use a steel leader when targeting pike?
Some do and some don't!  I just go with heavy mono......25 lb test is my choice.  If I land a large toothy one I just change out the leader at the hole before resetting the tip up.  I keep pre tied leaders in a zip lock in my pocket to make the change out quick and easy.

The reason I go with mono rather than steel is I feel the mono lets the bait swim more naturally.
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Re: Which knot?
« Reply #26 on: Dec 27, 2011, 08:17 PM »
What do you think about tying a perfection loop in the dacron and making the loop to loop connection to a barrel swivel on a pre-made leader?   

The new Indian Hills I just got from Santa (OK I got myself from The Ice Hole on Friday when there was no Ice) are to nice to leave rigged for just one species! 
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Re: Which knot?
« Reply #27 on: Dec 29, 2011, 11:32 AM »
Always use the swivel from tip-up line (Braid) to leader (I use heavy florocarbon) and it's a Homer Circle Knot on both ends of the Spro barrel swivel...The rig has never failed!
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Offline northernnyice

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Re: Which knot?
« Reply #28 on: Dec 31, 2011, 05:20 PM »
Double improved clinch knot
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Re: Which knot?
« Reply #29 on: Jan 03, 2012, 07:09 PM »
Die hard double uni knot if not using swivels. Have landed hundreds of giant sturgeon and never had the uni fail me.
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