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Title: Arctic Fisherman 50th Anniversary "Beaver Dam" Tip-up: EPIC FAIL
Post by: TIBS on Nov 06, 2011, 01:46 PM
I don't know if anyone here has seen these things, but for 75 bucks you get a TERRIBLE paint job and a crappy laser engraving on an otherwise standard BD. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

I couldn't believe the paint quality on the boards, they weren't even fully coated.  I looked @ 5 different tipups at the Beaver Dam Fleet Farm location, same problem on every one.  No paint coverage on the board corners.  Even if I was a hardcore collector of tip-ups, buying one of these would be very hard to swallow. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Along the same topic, $39.99 for a regular Beaver Dam Tip-up?  No one I know is gonna buy them at that price. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Thanks Uncle Josh Bait company for destroying one of the best names in Ice Fishing >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Arctic Fisherman 50th Anniversary "Beaver Dam" Tip-up: EPIC FAIL
Post by: mr_mojo on Nov 06, 2011, 01:53 PM
When I saw the price on them, I didnt inspect them any further.
Title: Re: Arctic Fisherman 50th Anniversary "Beaver Dam" Tip-up: EPIC FAIL
Post by: nonamer on Nov 06, 2011, 02:19 PM
spend it like you have it. look at the price of smokes. look at the price of a gallon of milk or a loaf of bread. where is the end of greed.
Title: Re: Arctic Fisherman 50th Anniversary "Beaver Dam" Tip-up: EPIC FAIL
Post by: surflizard on Nov 06, 2011, 02:52 PM
Uh Oh, this ain't gonna sit well with the die hard BDers ! No Excuse for Shoddy workmanship at any price !  >:(
Title: Re: Arctic Fisherman 50th Anniversary "Beaver Dam" Tip-up: EPIC FAIL
Post by: cbtrtbum on Nov 06, 2011, 02:53 PM
I love Beaverdams, but there is no way im droppin 75 for the new 50th annev. (even though I want one, er two)
Title: Re: Arctic Fisherman 50th Anniversary "Beaver Dam" Tip-up: EPIC FAIL
Post by: Hardwaterhunter on Nov 06, 2011, 03:00 PM
 I hear you, I looked at them at Gander Mtn. and was really disappointed. That kind of money is going drive a lot of Beaver Dam users away from buying their Tip-ups in the future.
Title: Re: Arctic Fisherman 50th Anniversary "Beaver Dam" Tip-up: EPIC FAIL
Post by: richstick on Nov 06, 2011, 09:17 PM
From what I've heard from a buddy who owns a sporting goods store, BD quality is WAY in the toilet as of last year.  He told me he sent many units back to the factory - they were arriving with bent shafts, etc - all KINDS of problems.  I'll keep my HT Polars and Frabill thermals thank you.
Title: Re: Arctic Fisherman 50th Anniversary "Beaver Dam" Tip-up: EPIC FAIL
Post by: pfscott on Nov 06, 2011, 10:58 PM
That's too bad. My newest one is 15 years old. I haven't looked at new ones on years.
Title: Re: Arctic Fisherman 50th Anniversary "Beaver Dam" Tip-up: EPIC FAIL
Post by: diabetik11 on Nov 06, 2011, 11:11 PM
i think the paint job on these tip ups are suppose to be like that they want to make it look vintage or give it age, that is what i think they where going after. o yea i got 2 beaver dam tip ups for only $10 off craigslist a couple weeks ago and they where the old ones like 30 years old no lie in original box in mint conditon, deal of the year i thought
Title: Re: Arctic Fisherman 50th Anniversary "Beaver Dam" Tip-up: EPIC FAIL
Post by: Greg2ha on Nov 07, 2011, 04:59 AM
spend it like you have it. look at the price of smokes. look at the price of a gallon of milk or a loaf of bread. where is the end of greed.
You are 100% correct my friend! :'(
Title: Re: Arctic Fisherman 50th Anniversary "Beaver Dam" Tip-up: EPIC FAIL
Post by: UFCreel on Nov 07, 2011, 06:05 AM
I bought two beaver dam tip ups 30 years ago for $13.89 a piece. Still have the price tags on the original boxes. Was at a show recently and told the guys from uncle josh that. They told me they couldn't get the spindle turned for that nowadays. Any how here's a secret go on E-bay I just bought four beaver dam tip ups In new condition that are 30 years old for $15.00 each in their original box.
Title: Re: Arctic Fisherman 50th Anniversary "Beaver Dam" Tip-up: EPIC FAIL
Post by: Fatfish on Nov 07, 2011, 07:11 AM
I bought 2,sum 30 years ago and I love them ,I think I spent $19.95 for two ,at the end of the season and I wish I would have bought 20 at that price. Just a couple of years ago the boxes finally rotted so I had to find a plastic case to put them in. Buy the way I store mine in the freezer in the summer.   Jerry
Title: Re: Arctic Fisherman 50th Anniversary "Beaver Dam" Tip-up: EPIC FAIL
Post by: lake snake on Nov 07, 2011, 08:02 AM
 $75.00 for one tip-up is ridiculous. I hope they choke on them. ;D
Title: Re: Arctic Fisherman 50th Anniversary "Beaver Dam" Tip-up: EPIC FAIL
Post by: WalleyeHunter84 on Nov 07, 2011, 08:22 AM
How  can you charge that much?  What used to be a great name and product.  I have some 29th annervisary ones and they charge me 25 bucks two years ago to mount a new spindle on.
Title: Re: Arctic Fisherman 50th Anniversary "Beaver Dam" Tip-up: EPIC FAIL
Post by: surflizard on Nov 07, 2011, 08:30 AM
B.L.B = Brand Loyalty Blindness ! I had it with Winchester till I picked one up and it said made in Russia and now the name is Smeared all over Cheap Chinese Junk at wally world ??  Uncle Josh bait company is betting on brand loyalty and laughin all the way to the Bank, Sad but True !
Title: Re: Arctic Fisherman 50th Anniversary "Beaver Dam" Tip-up: EPIC FAIL
Post by: Gamedog1 on Nov 07, 2011, 06:30 PM
LMAO!...Its suppose to look that way!...you know- like stone wash jeans, or the worn look?.....It cost to be cool. @)
Title: Re: Arctic Fisherman 50th Anniversary "Beaver Dam" Tip-up: EPIC FAIL
Post by: da man cave shack on Nov 07, 2011, 08:32 PM
think they look neat but 75 buck that could be better spent somewere else.
Title: Re: Arctic Fisherman 50th Anniversary "Beaver Dam" Tip-up: EPIC FAIL
Post by: richstick on Nov 08, 2011, 10:00 AM
sucker born every minute...
Title: Re: Arctic Fisherman 50th Anniversary "Beaver Dam" Tip-up: EPIC FAIL
Post by: TIBS on Nov 08, 2011, 07:19 PM
i think the paint job on these tip ups are suppose to be like that they want to make it look vintage or give it age, that is what i think they where going after.

Even if this was the case, they didn't achieve it.  It just plain looks bad. >:(

Glad I already have 8 of them, need to find a few more, USED. ::)  I'll be on the hunt next spring at garage sales.
Title: Re: Arctic Fisherman 50th Anniversary "Beaver Dam" Tip-up: EPIC FAIL
Post by: icejunky on Nov 08, 2011, 07:31 PM
anyone have a link so i cant take a peek at this thing.. i gotta see what the fuss is about
Title: Re: Arctic Fisherman 50th Anniversary "Beaver Dam" Tip-up: EPIC FAIL
Post by: Idahogator on Nov 08, 2011, 08:23 PM
Icejunky,
               This link may ignore the border and let you have a look.

http://www.unclejosh.com/beaverdam/modules/cart/products.php/nav_id/166/page/1/id/281/name/50thAnniversaryLimitedEditionTipUp (http://www.unclejosh.com/beaverdam/modules/cart/products.php/nav_id/166/page/1/id/281/name/50thAnniversaryLimitedEditionTipUp)
Title: Re: Arctic Fisherman 50th Anniversary "Beaver Dam" Tip-up: EPIC FAIL
Post by: icejunky on Nov 08, 2011, 09:02 PM
thanx man.. wow, gotta love those limited editions.. 2500 made, not exactly limeted.  I wonder how many they have sold
Title: Re: Arctic Fisherman 50th Anniversary "Beaver Dam" Tip-up: EPIC FAIL
Post by: TIBS on Nov 09, 2011, 07:44 PM
With the silver inlay of the flag base, silver fish ruler, chrome steel spool and the polished brass line guide, the new Frabill great lakes edition tip up blows the doors off the BD, not only with the looks and fit and finish, Plus with a cost of $34.99, thats less then 1/2 the price of the BD Too !!  Just for curiosities sake, which one looks better to you ??                                  (http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l113/lael19533/Antknees%20Ice%20Fishing%20Mayhem/1665_lg-1.jpg)

@ 35 bucks, I'd still go for a Beaver Dam (even though they now retail @ 40  >:(), just not the ridiculous anniversary edition one.  I know it will work better than any Frabill.  Is this Great Lakes "premium" tip-up even made in America?  Or are they just charging extra to put "premium" in the title? ;)  I do not agree that the Frabill looks better..... if anything, they're trying really hard to copy the BD.  Arctic fisherman did a laser engraved ruler on a red board a few years back, might still be able to find those if you look hard enough, if a ruler on your tip-up is a deal breaker.  EDIT:  Uncle Josh is remaking the redboards, so they are available again.

(http://www.fleetfarm.com/images/products/large/0000000006341.jpg)

I'm just pissed that the BD tip-up has changed ownership several times in the last few years, and each time the price gets jacked. >:(

The flags aren't felt, they are cotton.  Same as has been on BD's for decades.
Title: Re: Arctic Fisherman 50th Anniversary "Beaver Dam" Tip-up: EPIC FAIL
Post by: richstick on Nov 09, 2011, 08:14 PM
I'd pop for $10-$15 and get an HT Polar that will catch more fish than any BD  ;D
Title: Re: Arctic Fisherman 50th Anniversary "Beaver Dam" Tip-up: EPIC FAIL
Post by: surflizard on Nov 09, 2011, 08:42 PM
It is plain for all to see that Frabill is trying to win over the Disgruntled BD fans with the BD clone, great lakes tip up ! I'm just curious, You start the post describing how the BD looks so terrible that it will ruin the company, then you say that it still looks better then the Frabill  ???

Oops sorry, Cotton !  Greasy looking rags tend to look similar that way  !

Yes, the Frabills are made right in Jackson Wisconsin, Hence the name !  ;)2 

I'd say Most Definitely B.L.B ! :roflmao:
         

Title: Re: Arctic Fisherman 50th Anniversary "Beaver Dam" Tip-up: EPIC FAIL
Post by: Bennettc on Nov 09, 2011, 10:31 PM
I sprung for the 75 dollar anniversary tip up.  My father in law has a 25th anniversary and Im always jealous when we go fishing.  In thirty years my kids will be jealous too.  Its dumb and expensive but I wanted one.
 I wouldn't have bought them if uncle josh's had shipped there manufacturing to China.  I can handle a price increase.

Title: Re: Arctic Fisherman 50th Anniversary "Beaver Dam" Tip-up: EPIC FAIL
Post by: TIBS on Nov 10, 2011, 07:16 PM
It is plain for all to see that Frabill is trying to win over the Disgruntled BD fans with the BD clone, great lakes tip up ! I'm just curious, You start the post describing how the BD looks so terrible that it will ruin the company, then you say that it still looks better then the Frabill  ???

Oops sorry, Cotton !  Greasy looking rags tend to look similar that way  !

Yes, the Frabills are made right in Jackson Wisconsin, Hence the name !  ;)2 

I'd say Most Definitely B.L.B ! :roflmao:
         

My complaint is that the paint quality of the Anniversary Tip-up is subpar, or at least thats my opinion.  The original BD's still look as good as they ever have.  I would buy an orignal BD, not an Anniversary tip-up, over those Frabills. 

I've had bad experiences with Frabill tip-ups, so I would pretty much buy any tip-up over a Frabill. ;)

Are you sure those tip-ups are made in Jackson?  Just because that's the company HQ doesn't mean that anything actually gets made there.  I couldn't find anything on Frabills website about their origin.  Frabill is one of those companies that pretty much just designs stuff here and then ships plans to China to get stuff made.
Title: Re: Arctic Fisherman 50th Anniversary "Beaver Dam" Tip-up: EPIC FAIL
Post by: TIBS on Nov 10, 2011, 07:25 PM
I sprung for the 75 dollar anniversary tip up.  My father in law has a 25th anniversary and Im always jealous when we go fishing.  In thirty years my kids will be jealous too.  Its dumb and expensive but I wanted one.
 I wouldn't have bought them if uncle josh's had shipped there manufacturing to China.  I can handle a price increase.

I have a 25th, 30th, and 3-40th anniversary BD's, and as far as I remember, they were never priced higher than the standard BD that sat on the shelf right beside it.

It just blows me away what they are charging for what to me looks like a crap paint job.
Title: Re: Arctic Fisherman 50th Anniversary "Beaver Dam" Tip-up: EPIC FAIL
Post by: Bennettc on Nov 10, 2011, 08:40 PM
 I don't think you should come on the site and tell everybody BD's are not made at the same quality, when they clearly are.  Your right the paint job is styled as "distressed"  and the price is too high.   The 50th anniversary just had the edges sanded down.  It's not that Uncle Josh's bought the company and decided to make a lower quality product because they could afford to paint the entire board.

(http://i715.photobucket.com/albums/ww160/claytonbennett/DSC_4897.jpg)

(http://i715.photobucket.com/albums/ww160/claytonbennett/DSC_4868.jpg)
Title: Re: Arctic Fisherman 50th Anniversary "Beaver Dam" Tip-up: EPIC FAIL
Post by: 1fastz28 on Feb 27, 2012, 10:16 AM
I just purchased a glow in the dark Beaver Dam tip up off ebay. It is unreal how the quality of these tip ups has gone down hill so much in the past 3 years even. The craftsmanship of these is just terrible. I will not be buying another Beaver Dam tip up at these ridiculous prices that look like something my sone threw together in intro to woodworking class. A very disappointed and now lost Beaver Dam customer. Thanks Uncle Josh, these tips ups need a lot of work to get back to where they once were.
Title: Re: Arctic Fisherman 50th Anniversary "Beaver Dam" Tip-up: EPIC FAIL
Post by: brycro on Feb 27, 2012, 06:22 PM
think they look neat but 75 buck that could be better spent somewere else.

you could buy 5 heritage lakers on sale for close to that and call it good. 
Title: Re: Arctic Fisherman 50th Anniversary "Beaver Dam" Tip-up: EPIC FAIL
Post by: Flypopper on Feb 27, 2012, 06:54 PM
I don't think you should come on the site and tell everybody BD's are not made at the same quality, when they clearly are.  Your right the paint job is styled as "distressed"  and the price is too high.   The 50th anniversary just had the edges sanded down.  It's not that Uncle Josh's bought the company and decided to make a lower quality product because they could afford to paint the entire board.

(http://i715.photobucket.com/albums/ww160/claytonbennett/DSC_4897.jpg)

(http://i715.photobucket.com/albums/ww160/claytonbennett/DSC_4868.jpg)

Thanks for clairfying this for me, I didn't think Uncle Josh would put anything out there as bad as these guys made it sound.  Price is kinda high though.
Title: Re: Arctic Fisherman 50th Anniversary "Beaver Dam" Tip-up: EPIC FAIL
Post by: gooseblaster49707 on Feb 29, 2012, 07:21 PM
It is plain for all to see that Frabill is trying to win over the Disgruntled BD fans with the BD clone, great lakes tip up ! I'm just curious, You start the post describing how the BD looks so terrible that it will ruin the company, then you say that it still looks better then the Frabill  ???

Oops sorry, Cotton !  Greasy looking rags tend to look similar that way  !

Yes, the Frabills are made right in Jackson Wisconsin, Hence the name !  ;)2 

I'd say Most Definitely B.L.B ! :roflmao:
         
.
read the fine print = frabill = China. went thru this at the local sporting goods store last week.  doesn't matter the distribution or ownership spot, the package still says made in China. the spools wobble and the shafts aren't square to the spool on the newest ones.  S O R R Y x 8.
Title: Re: Arctic Fisherman 50th Anniversary "Beaver Dam" Tip-up: EPIC FAIL
Post by: Loudmouth879 on Mar 04, 2012, 10:16 PM
personally i think all the BD style traps are junk because if there is a decent amount of snow you need to clear it to actually see the flag... I'll stick with my cross style 40-ups at $12 a tip-up... going on 16 years with some of them and haven't had a problem with them.... the newer ones however the spools are made of a cheap aluminum so they are getting replaced with Heritage spools as a upgrade