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IceShanty Main => General Ice Fishing Chit Chat => Topic started by: Mike84 on Nov 30, 2021, 08:29 AM
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Hi all! Anyone seen any of the Flame King 1lb refillable bottles in stock anywhere? I've been looking for quite some time to no avail. Amazon and Ebay only have bottles selling at 4x the cost. I know I'll get some folks that will say that I can just fill up the disposable bottles but I would prefer not to.
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They seem to be out of stock everywhere. I emailed Flame King ..no clue when or if they will be available. Sportsmans Guide has them on backorder till 12/20/21..
PM sent
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Glad I got mine back in August when a few retailers had them. I had 3 from 2 years ago then got six more. Will share with the kids.
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Our local Running's has them and will ship. Their price is $16.99 plus shipping.
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Sure enough! I just placed an order. Thanks so much Ice Dawg
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You're welcome.
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Our local Running's has them and will ship. Their price is $16.99 plus shipping.
Thanks.. order placed ..even got $10 off $50 coupon
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I dont want to endorse something that could be dangerous but if you cut that little plastic tab off the flame king refill adapter you can fill the little green bombs also.just in case the flame king tanks get hard to find.i cut mine because i found it hard to see when lining up the plastic tab with the bottle.
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Thanks.. order placed ..even got $10 off $50 coupon
Just got an Email said order shipped ..quite fast .
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Just got an Email said order shipped ..quite fast .
That was super quick, my order hasn't shipped yet.
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I was in Running's a couple weeks ago and they had at least 10 12 item cases of propane one pounders on the shelf. Last week the shelf was totally bare. Glad I bought some when they had it.
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Thanks.. order placed ..even got $10 off $50 coupon
Can you share the coupon? Thanks!
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Can you share the coupon? Thanks!
All I did was make an account ..and arrived in my Email .
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I got a shipping notification a bit later. Woo hoo!
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Can anyone elaborate on which store you ordered from?
I tried Runnings website and I can't locate any of those tanks on their site. I would think even if they are sold out, they would be listed.
Thanks
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here is the link to the flame king tank:
https://www.runnings.com/flameking-refillable-cylinder-1-86380003.html
if you enter in your zip for pick up in store you can also search and check nearby stores and it will list them out then you can see the inventory of other stores near you.
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Sorry to go off topic but I can no longer see the attraction in or justify the 1#ers...refilled or new. A 5# tank has a lesser footprint than 4 -1 pound bombs and no disposal necessary. Filled mine up a couple weeks ago for $3.50. Ok...back to regular programming. ;)
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Sorry to go off topic but I can no longer see the attraction in or justify the 1#ers...refilled or new. A 5# tank has a lesser footprint than 4 -1 pound bombs and no disposal necessary. Filled mine up a couple weeks ago for $3.50. Ok...back to regular programming. ;)
Thanks for your thoughts. For me, I don't use 4 1lb tanks on one trip. I may go through one all day so in my case I have to decide if a 5lb tanks is worth dragging vs a single one pound refillable tank. Curious if you refill your 5lb yourself or take it in to get refilled?
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Thank you.
For the times I need a 1 lb tank, I’d rather refill than buy disposable now that I know these are available.
Not going to drag larger tank when I need simple 1 lb for starting a small grill as an example.
I have hose and larger tank for applicable situations too.
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Can anyone elaborate on which store you ordered from?
I tried Runnings website and I can't locate any of those tanks on their site. I would think even if they are sold out, they would be listed.
Thanks
Their site is very wonky..cant find anything via the search function
https://www.runnings.com/flameking-refillable-cylinder-1-86380003.html
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Thanks for your thoughts. For me, I don't use 4 1lb tanks on one trip. I may go through one all day so in my case I have to decide if a 5lb tanks is worth dragging vs a single one pound refillable tank. Curious if you refill your 5lb yourself or take it in to get refilled?
Propane dealer. Told me even with the rising cost of propane he wasn't raising his prices on 20# tanks or less. Keeping them low as a courtesy. Pretty nice.
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Sorry to go off topic but I can no longer see the attraction in or justify the 1#ers...refilled or new. A 5# tank has a lesser footprint than 4 -1 pound bombs and no disposal necessary. Filled mine up a couple weeks ago for $3.50. Ok...back to regular programming. ;)
Problem with the 5lb tank is that if you go out for half a day and use, say half the tank, and you want to go out again tomorrow for the entire day, you now have half a tank of gas. Now you have to hope that the propane store is still open by the time you get off the ice to inconvenience the guy to fill 2.5lbs of propane. I'd rather just fill up however many 1lb'ers I used at the end of the day from a larger tank and be ready to go for the next day.
With that said, I've got 6 of the Flame King 1lb refillables, a 11lb tank, and a handful of the larger 20lb tanks. They're all useful in their own situations. Plus, I can't use my 1lb tank top burner to cook lunch on the larger bottles. Used to re-fill the disposables, but DealNinja got me on the Flame King train and I love them.
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Love the Flame Kings. I rarely even use a 1lber during a full day of fishing so they are perfect for me.
Just an FYI for those that refill the green bombs it violates US DOT law to refill and transport them. Not really sure how someone would be able to tell.
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Sorry to go off topic but I can no longer see the attraction in or justify the 1#ers...refilled or new. A 5# tank has a lesser footprint than 4 -1 pound bombs and no disposal necessary. Filled mine up a couple weeks ago for $3.50. Ok...back to regular programming. ;)
I’ve got a 5# & 11# tank. They have a place but seem to be a lot more hassle for me then refilling my own 1# tanks.
Work well on the Turkey fry stand to cook fish on trips.
For heating the shack…. Not so much if you use a buddy type heater. With the hose and using a few lbs a trip you really need to refill after every trip. And the hose connection is kind of a pain for me transporting in the sled.
Refilling 1# tanks off the 30# tanks with the flame king refill adaptor and tanks is so easy, and if I only use 2-3# I can refill or swap tanks at home. Then just take 4-1# tanks out vs refilling the 5# and 11# tanks sucks…but LP refilling and service has become terrible in the last 5yrs around here. It takes 1-2days for them to refill a person's tank…..it’s ridiculous.
I can refill the 5# and 11# off my 30# with a hose I made…but it sucks. Then I have to run a hose to the heater and it sucks.
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I dont want to endorse something that could be dangerous but if you cut that little plastic tab off the flame king refill adapter you can fill the little green bombs also.just in case the flame king tanks get hard to find.i cut mine because i found it hard to see when lining up the plastic tab with the bottle.
Lol…that is exactly what I did. Once that tab was gone refilling the green bombs was easy. I 3D printed a bunch of plastic caps to protect the threads & to keep moisture from corroding the valve. I also finally figured out that instead of using a needle nose to pull the little pressure release valve to get them full…..it is easier to just unscrew the tank & push the main valve pin down for 6 sec. To release the pressure. Then rescrew it on and top it off. I run about 6 flame king 1# refillable tanks. Then about 6 green bombs. It’s always nice to keep a full milk crate (9tanks) full.
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Problem with the 5lb tank is that if you go out for half a day and use, say half the tank, and you want to go out again tomorrow for the entire day, you now have half a tank of gas. Now you have to hope that the propane store is still open by the time you get off the ice to inconvenience the guy to fill 2.5lbs of propane. I'd rather just fill up however many 1lb'ers I used at the end of the day from a larger tank and be ready to go for the next day.
This is so true….and exactly what I experienced with my 5# tank, and why the 1# refills are so handy.
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All I did was make an account ..and arrived in my Email .
HD - sent you a PM
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I’ve done both, started refilling green bottles 15 years ago when we used Coleman propane lanterns in the hunting shack. When I started ice fishing I already had a big buddy heater and the 20lb cylinder adapter to go with it. I used it for 4-5 years the. I was in a pinch and had to use a 1lb cylinder and started to see the convenience. A buddy got a flame king adapter last year and I thought it was pretty damn slick. Had some menards rebates so I bought a kit. I’ve used it to refill several green bottles. I try to only refill the Coleman ones a few times. Wish I wold have payed attention to the fact that the flame king bottles were so scarce. I have a feeling Coleman 1lb bottles will be as hot this year as they were last year. Luckily the co-op still fills 20lb tanks FULL! not the usually 85%
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Problem with the 5lb tank is that if you go out for half a day and use, say half the tank, and you want to go out again tomorrow for the entire day, you now have half a tank of gas. Now you have to hope that the propane store is still open by the time you get off the ice to inconvenience the guy to fill 2.5lbs of propane. I'd rather just fill up however many 1lb'ers I used at the end of the day from a larger tank and be ready to go for the next day.
With that said, I've got 6 of the Flame King 1lb refillables, a 11lb tank, and a handful of the larger 20lb tanks. They're all useful in their own situations. Plus, I can't use my 1lb tank top burner to cook lunch on the larger bottles. Used to re-fill the disposables, but DealNinja got me on the Flame King train and I love them.
I can see your point. All depends on the application and convenience. I use a Mr Heater "sunflower" that is a cooker as well. Most times out I don't even use the heater. When I do, it's usually on and off...gets pretty warm in there. So at most I probably only use a pound a day. And I actually have 2 places close to me that can refill it...the dealer and a hardware store ( which is open early and late enough for me to get refilled). Just works better for me.
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Last couple years I have only been using my 1 man so 6 flame king 1#ers last between 6-8 days depending on weather
For my 2 man I have a 5 plus an 11#er
I can squeeze out a week with my sun flower
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For the folks running the Flame King refillable tanks ..any tips ? Should both the 20lb tank and the Flame King tank be the same temperature ? Will there be any issues filling the tanks in the bitter cold ?
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I use 1 1lb can per outing.i have 5 and always have a full 20 on hand to refill those.i have a 11lb pancake tank with a sunflower head on it.it has a outdated valve and need recertification so i refill that off my 20lb.need to get over to Hopkins propane and have a new valve and recert done.i have different heaters and switch it up.my new fav is the coleman focus 5.way better than the finicky buddy heater.and i still use the old school coleman white gas heaters too.
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For the folks running the Flame King refillable tanks ..any tips ? Should both the 20lb tank and the Flame King tank be the same temperature ? Will there be any issues filling the tanks in the bitter cold ?
thats another perk of the fk.doesnt matter if bottles are warm or cold.
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Hey doc I to run a killer focus 5 lol for a few decades ,
Hard Water I fill off my 20 to my flame king 1#ers both cold they fill right up no problem
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thats another perk of the fk.doesnt matter if bottles are warm or cold.
Hey doc I to run a killer focus 5 lol for a few decades ,
Hard Water I fill off my 20 to my flame king 1#ers both cold they fill right up no problem
Thanks fellas
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Yeah i just got a few more focus 5s at garage sales,runs longer and doesnt turn off when wiggled.i also picked up a focus 10.more btu has a igniter and tip over switch.cant beat 5$ garage sale heaters.
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Good for you , they will light when wet
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Just to add to guys just getting these, I bought some brass caps to help protect the threads of my Flame King cans. The plastic caps that they come with didn't instill much confidence for me. For $1.50/ea, they seemed like a good buy. There's a few different brands out there on Amazon, they're probably all the same:
https://www.amazon.com/BISupply-Propane-Refill-Bottle-Caps/dp/B08L8C227K/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=propane+brass+caps&qid=1638366078&sr=8-6
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I use the caps off the old Coleman green ones when the flame king ones crap out
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Now on year 4 for my Flame King tanks. I have 4 and I rotate them continuously. 4 is plenty for most every trip. If I do an overnighter or extended trip then I drag the 20lber out. I use roughly 2 20lb tanks per season so each 1lber gets refilled about 25 times a year. So yeah now at about 40 refills total with each tank and they look and perform like new.
If anyone is thinking about it, I'd jump on that Runnings deal posted above. You simply can't find them anywhere. You will need the adapter too though.
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Now on year 4 for my Flame King tanks. I have 4 and I rotate them continuously. 4 is plenty for most every trip. If I do an overnighter or extended trip then I drag the 20lber out. I use roughly 2 20lb tanks per season so each 1lber gets refilled about 25 times a year. So yeah now at about 40 refills total with each tank and they look and perform like new.
If anyone is thinking about it, I'd jump on that Runnings deal posted above. You simply can't find them anywhere. You will need the adapter too though.
https://www.runnings.com/flameking-refill-kit-86380016.html
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thats another perk of the fk.doesnt matter if bottles are warm or cold.
I never did have much luck chilling the green bombs to get them full.
If you want to get the green bombs full and they are room temp. Just fill them full at room temp…..which gets them to about 80% full. Unscrew the tank. Push down on the main valve to let off some pressure for about 5sec. Screw back on and finish filling. Then you’ll get them 100% full.
Basicly does the same thing using the Allen wrench to open the valve on the flame king refillable tanks.
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Well thanks for the link for the refillable 1# tanks got four of them.
Keep it safe! JDL
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Runnings is going to be so confused about why they received so many orders for these tanks today ;D
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Yeah Thanks!
Funny thing is after watching days worth of YouTube videos about these Chinese diesel heaters for my wheelhouse the price for 4 tanks and refill kit is about the same ???
Yeah I got both coming and it's 70 degrees today Dec 1 @)
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Bought 4, going to attempt to go back to the buddy heater this year.
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I stocked up at Home Depot back in September. Glad I did...they were the only ones that had any...3 days later, they didn't.
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Bought 4, going to attempt to go back to the buddy heater this year.
I went away from the buddy heater after a bad unit and a lot of issues. Buddy got one and worked great for him. The only issue is keeping wind off the pilot flame…and it’s good.
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I went away from the buddy heater after a bad unit and a lot of issues. Buddy got one and worked great for him. The only issue is keeping wind off the pilot flame…and it’s good.
You have wind inside yer shack? ???
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You get those buddies damp and they don’t light
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Its surprising how finicky some of the buddy heaters can be. I've used a sunflower style heater the last few years cuz you can more or less force them to run. Got the big buddy heater to try this year.
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I despise my buddy heaters.they never light when i need them.goes for the little buddy and the portable buddy.my coleman focus 5 will light face down in the snow.
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Its surprising how finicky some of the buddy heaters can be. I've used a sunflower style heater the last few years cuz you can more or less force them to run. Got the big buddy heater to try this year.
Yup. Those Mr. Heater sunflowers are bulletproof.
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I have three that are over 15 yo, and all I've ever done every year is blow out the ceramic heat pad, clean the gas tube with alcohol, and use a piece of VF emery paper to clean tip of the thermocouple, and they take off right away. One has been used so much it's black all blackened and rusty...but off she goes! That one doesn't have the tip switch, which I prefer, so I can move it around in the garage. I musta got good ones. Starting to wonder if they're ever gonna wear out! ;D
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If you’ve ever seen a sunflower turn into a giant blowtorch you’ll never touch one again. It happened to friend and I years ago in a little 6x8 house.
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If you’ve ever seen a sunflower turn into a giant blowtorch you’ll never touch one again. It happened to friend and I years ago in a little 6x8 house.
Boy, I'll second that one....I have.
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We must be old Rebs😊. These youngsters just haven’t lived. Scares the bejesus out you doesn’t it?
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I have three that are over 15 yo, and all I've ever done every year is blow out the ceramic heat pad, clean the gas tube with alcohol, and use a piece of VF emery paper to clean tip of the thermocouple, and they take off right away. One has been used so much it's black all blackened and rusty...but off she goes! That one doesn't have the tip switch, which I prefer, so I can move it around in the garage. I musta got good ones. Starting to wonder if they're ever gonna wear out! ;D
Have one. Yes they last….yrs they rust…and yes they get hot and burn the crap out of anything.
When my kids started going….I switch back to the buddy heaters…..I figured it was less expensive.
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You have wind inside yer shack? ???
Yes when on glare ice, with the rear of the shack to the wind and heater front center….the wind will get under the flaps and get to the heater.
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We must be old Rebs😊. These youngsters just haven’t lived. Scares the bejesus out you doesn’t it?
Danged right! (on both counts) When they go *WHOOOOSH*, had the same feeling in my pants... :pinch:
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I've use FK tanks for 3 yrs and I use the flame king refill kit they sell with the stand and fill nozzle.
not to promote unsafe refiling...BUT
I fill mine per the instructions and close the set screw when propane starts to vent. Then what I do is let keep the tank connected and let it fill up more- you can hear the propane fill up and when it stops, I can get close to 2 lbs of propane in the tank. This allows me to do a full day trip with one tank and have a little left over. I bring a second tank as a back up in case one tank malfunctions but I have never needed to use it.
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I had a friend that did that, overfilling. (on a regular 1 lb'er) Until one blew the seal, spewed LP which ignited in his garage, burned him, and completely burned down his $250,000 house. Years in court with the insurance co (State Farm which wouldn't cover him, because he was performing an unsafe act and went against the warning on LP tank DO NOT REFILL. Not an easy claim like their "she shed" commercial. Just asking for disaster, since the 1 lb'ers are not meant to be refilled anyway. Ya, I kow a lot of guys do it. A lot of people run lines of cocaine too, until they give themselves a heart attack. Just ain't worth it.
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I've use FK tanks for 3 yrs and I use the flame king refill kit they sell with the stand and fill nozzle.
not to promote unsafe refiling...BUT
I fill mine per the instructions and close the set screw when propane starts to vent. Then what I do is let keep the tank connected and let it fill up more- you can hear the propane fill up and when it stops, I can get close to 2 lbs of propane in the tank. This allows me to do a full day trip with one tank and have a little left over. I bring a second tank as a back up in case one tank malfunctions but I have never needed to use it.
It’s one thing to refill a tank to the capacity of which it is meant to hold….It’s an entire different thing to push a tank to double it’s recommended capacity. I mean I’m surprised they safety valves don’t release and bleed of the extra pressure. Way beyond any risk I’d be willing to take…..I’d rather just take another 1# tank
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Yeah i try to get as much as safely possible but wouldnt try to overfill.i had a 20lb tank that the gas station overfilled and it was fine cold then on the ride home with the heater on the safety valve released and shot propane all over in my truck.i stopped and threw the tank in the ditch and waited for it to stop spewing propane.worst ive done on the flame king refiller is cut that stupid plastic tab off because its a pain to line up with tanks.then i tried filling the little green bombs and it works.
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Yeah i try to get as much as safely possible but wouldnt try to overfill.i had a 20lb tank that the gas station overfilled and it was fine cold then on the ride home with the heater on the safety valve released and shot propane all over in my truck.i stopped and threw the tank in the ditch and waited for it to stop spewing propane.worst ive done on the flame king refiller is cut that stupid plastic tab off because its a pain to line up with tanks.then i tried filling the little green bombs and it works.
Hey Doc,
I wanna make sure I understand.... I know its not in the manual to cut off that plastic tab, but are you saying its good or bad? You said the Worst thing you did was cut off the tab, but yet it sounds like a positive... I have some Flame King cannisters arriving and wanna make sure I understand this... thanks...
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Be glad ya weren't smoking or just lighting that cig Doc...*KERBLOOEY* You'da never known what hit ya, then guys like me before I retired would be on scene picking up the pieces of ya. It's a gross sight. Been there, done that. :sick:
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It was good as i dont have to try and line it up with the canister.it was a pain.think it was just safety to only be able to fill flame king brand cans but i removed it and can fill any propane cans now.try it out first the way it is you have to line that plastic tab in the groove in the bottle or it wont seal and leak when filling.its much easier with that plastic piece removed.jmo
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Be glad ya weren't smoking or just lighting that cig Doc...*KERBLOOEY* You'da never known what hit ya, then guys like me before I retired would be on scene picking up the pieces of ya. It's a gross sight. Been there, done that. :sick:
right,one habit i never got in to was smoking cigarettes.think i smoked a half of one when I was a kid and puked my guts out.
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I’m the guy that still fills the green bombs but never over 16 oz. That 2# guy was a card carrying stupid person.
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I’m the guy that still fills the green bombs but never over 16 oz. That 2# guy was a card carrying stupid person.
Couldn't agree more. I'd consider putting 2# of propane in a 1# tank about like trying to take your peter and set a mouse trap off without getting it snapped. Maybe you get away with it, but why would you even try it.
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Looks like UPS will be delivering my Flame King order today ? It was a little bit of a kerfuffle with shipping ..label was created but item never moved ??... My Runnings account had the item delivered ???..I contacted Runnings and CS got things moving as it was in the "back" waiting. It looks like the items are being shipped via individual stores? Hope others have their items in transit.
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Looks like UPS will be delivering my Flame King order today ? It was a little bit of a kerfuffle with shipping ..label was created but item never moved ??... My Runnings account had the item delivered ???..I contacted Runnings and CS got things moving as it was in the "back" waiting. It looks like the items are being shipped via individual stores? Hope others have their items in transit.
Just a tip. When I bought the 1# flame kings each one would come with an Allen wrench to open/close the valve to refill.
Simply take a hair tie band or rubber band and work it around the refill adaptor pipe/arm. Then you can slip the Allen wrench under it, storing it so you never have to go get or find the Allen wrench when you go to refill the tanks.
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What?! No links posted with special allen wrench keeper lanyards and stainless steel clips you can buy?! ;D
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Patience. Once labels are printed items are considered "shipped". Got mine today. Ordered the 1st
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Ordered the 30th and set to deliver today. I checked the tracking history for scans and it seems to have been moving along quicly
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What?! No links posted with special allen wrench keeper lanyards and stainless steel clips you can buy?! ;D
Well…I guess I could sell the castration bands I have left and a band tool for $40 so people could install the Allen wrench snap band to hold the Allen wrench.
On another note I was contacted by a company that would answer my phone calls for me at a low price of $4.99 a month………when I asked her how it was better then my current voice mail that is free….the only response was that it didn’t fill up like voice mail.
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Sign, sign everywhere a sign.
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Sign, sign everywhere a sign.
Five Man Electical Band. 1970. ;D
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My order was cancelled, customer service said it would have shipped from 6 stores to fill the order and their limit is 3.
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My order was cancelled, customer service said it would have shipped from 6 stores to fill the order and their limit is 3.
You have a Runnings near by ? Could call..or pop in . I received mine yesterday but only ordered 4mall shipped from one store.
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You have a Runnings near by ? Could call..or pop in . I received mine yesterday but only ordered 4mall shipped from one store.
The closest one is about an hour from me, i think
Im going to reorder without all the lures. I just couldn't resist the prices they had on some of the jigs, northland and VMC lures!
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Just order 3? Put in an order for 3 more tomorrow?
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I bet it was the lures that tipped over the
apple cart. Use this link their site is wonky ..I cant find anything ..looks like tons available still in various stores ..hurry
https://www.runnings.com/flameking-refillable-cylinder-1-86380003.html
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Thanks so much for sharing that Runnings link because it's impossible to find via their search field. How did anyone find it in the first place?
At any rate, I discovered I needed a couple more tanks and with that link this morning was able to search across their inventory and found a store with a couple. And as a bonus will amazingly be here tomorrow already.
I'll gladly pay the shipping vs playing the snipe hunt/who's got it game.
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On another note....I'm glad I refill my 1#tanks. I was at the bait shop the other day and only had two 1# tanks that I had full left. So I figured I'd pick up a green bomb to get me through the day. Well it was rings up $6.99. I said Oh that must be the two pack I only want one......Guy informs me....that is the price for one and everywhere else in town is $10 for one.....I put it back.......checked at the next store.....$10.....my goodness I can get 20#s for $15.
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Runnings must be starting to run low. Ordered three, shipping from 2 locations
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Thanks so much for sharing that Runnings link because it's impossible to find via their search field. How did anyone find it in the first place?
At any rate, I discovered I needed a couple more tanks and with that link this morning was able to search across their inventory and found a store with a couple. And as a bonus will amazingly be here tomorrow already.
I'll gladly pay the shipping vs playing the snipe hunt/who's got it game.
Flameking all one word pulls it up right away for me. Flame King separated into two words did not... kinda crummy search that a space makes such a big difference
I wish I had bought a few more of these before the prices went nuts and the availability cratered! Thankfully I don't do many trips with more than a single 1 lber used, much less 2 whole ones
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Yeah I try to keep my eye out every time I walk into Menards, seems to be the only place that stocks them around here. They have been out of stock for a few of months. Walked in today and they had 10 on the shelf. I only needed one so grabbed it. $16.99, can't believe they've gone up 3 bucks in about as many months.
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Yeah my local hardware store had a few of these when I was in there the other day.
I almost bought one till I looked at the price.
I mean I already have five of the refill tanks so I didn't really need another. But.......
Instead of using the cheap little allen wrench they give you with these I went ahead and bought a nice allen wrench with a handle on it.
So much easier to use and I'll never misplace it like I would the a little allen wrench they come with.
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I discovered that I need about 5lbs to comfortably heat my new Eskimo 650 for 6-7hrs. So yeah I should probably just be using the 20lber however I do find it better knowing that I will always have 6 of the full 1lbers and not have to guess how much is in the 20 or have to take out a second 20 as a spare if I run out.
On a side note. I did finally after 3 years have a tank start acting wonky. Seems to spurt and leak a bit when filling. Flame King said it was probably a seal issue and is going to send me replacement parts. I'm interested to see how they instruct me to change out the seal. He made it sound pretty easy (pull out old one and push new one in).
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I discovered that I need about 5lbs to comfortably heat my new Eskimo 650 for 6-7hrs. So yeah I should probably just be using the 20lber however I do find it better knowing that I will always have 6 of the full 1lbers and not have to guess how much is in the 20 or have to take out a second 20 as a spare if I run out.
On a side note. I did finally after 3 years have a tank start acting wonky. Seems to spurt and leak a bit when filling. Flame King said it was probably a seal issue and is going to send me replacement parts. I'm interested to see how they instruct me to change out the seal. He made it sound pretty easy (pull out old one and push new one in).
Moisture could have found its way around the seal ..with the bitter temps everyone is experiencing it is more than probable ..plus like most seals they can fail eventually . Thanks for all your input on the FK tanks ..I purchased 4 and will fill them soon ..after I run out of my previous refilled non FK tanks and some new tanks
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Absolutely no reason to be afraid of filling the "non refillable" bottles. Check your seals and valves, fill outside. Thousands of folks fill these without issue, just use common sense.
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Dang almost a pound an hour!? You making it a sauna or what :P. That'd only take what, about 3 fishing trips to break even on the flame king costs vs coleman green bombs, lol
I use maybe a pound in 6 hours in my Eskimo 949i, which is 50% smaller than the 650. My outside temps are usually 15-25, I know it can get a lot colder in the metro MN area. I also usually heat only to the point where it's comfortable enough to not wear gloves. Many times it gets too hot for me even on the low setting of my buddy heater. Frequently I just have the pilot light going after heating up to temp
If I was using 5-6 lbs a trip I would probably just use the 20lber and be done with it. Easy to figure how much is in there with a bathroom scale before ya head out
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Obviously each trip is different. I was out this past weekend with temps at about 8 degrees most all fishing I do is after dark (no sun) I couldn't keep the Big Buddy at med as it was not comfortable so I needed to run it on high. Big Buddy on high burns at about 2.5 hours with 2 tanks in, so yeah not quite a pound an hour. There are definitely tradeoffs between 20 and 1lb tanks.
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Dang almost a pound an hour!? You making it a sauna or what :P. That'd only take what, about 3 fishing trips to break even on the flame king costs vs coleman green bombs, lol
I use maybe a pound in 6 hours in my Eskimo 949i, which is 50% smaller than the 650. My outside temps are usually 15-25, I know it can get a lot colder in the metro MN area. I also usually heat only to the point where it's comfortable enough to not wear gloves. Many times it gets too hot for me even on the low setting of my buddy heater. Frequently I just have the pilot light going after heating up to temp
If I was using 5-6 lbs a trip I would probably just use the 20lber and be done with it. Easy to figure how much is in there with a bathroom scale before ya head out
I picked up a 650XD this year after having both a 949i and a 3i.
At 10* with 3 guys in the 650, it stays pretty comfortable with a big buddy flipping between low and medium setting. With just me, I end up leaving it on medium to keep it tolerable. Although I do usually fish with the jacket off inside the shack. I kept my 3i for solo outings, lot easier to heat.
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I picked up a 650XD this year after having both a 949i and a 3i.
At 10* with 3 guys in the 650, it stays pretty comfortable with a big buddy flipping between low and medium setting. With just me, I end up leaving it on medium to keep it tolerable. Although I do usually fish with the jacket off inside the shack. I kept my 3i for solo outings, lot easier to heat.
huh, 650 with 3 guys too and I even had a fan pushing heat down. On med we could see our breath and frosty inside. Had it banked well too. Not sure.... I think the sun makes a big difference
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huh, 650 with 3 guys too and I even had a fan pushing heat down. On med we could see our breath and frosty inside. Had it banked well too. Not sure.... I think the sun makes a big difference
Sun makes a JHUGE difference.
Last trip it was -15 degrees out, my little buddy was barely able to keep my holes freezing over on low, on high it was great. 5 hours into the day, sun is bright and was only 3 degrees out. I was able to turn off my buddy for about an hour or 2 because the sun heated up my pullover enough for me to be comfortable.
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Sun definitely makes a big difference. I mostly fish during daytime, on sunny days with low wind I don't even need the heater if there are 2 people in the hub.
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Thanks for the link, I was able to order 4 but only 3 have shipped.
I have been refilling the disposable tanks, but have had them occasionally leaking out of both valves. Admittedly I don't take great care of them and they have gotten wet. I look forward to an easier-to-use solution.
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Found this today at Rural King for $12. Will this work for the flame king bottles? Not sure why mr heater would sell this if the bombs arent refillable. Can anyone tell me the differences between this and the flame king refill adapter? I dont have any FK bottles but will get some if this would work. THanks!
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I have not tried my adapter like that on the flame king tanks but i have cut the plastic tab off the fk tank refiller and can fill the little green bombs now too.
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Found this today at Rural King for $12. Will this work for the flame king bottles? Not sure why mr heater would sell this if the bombs arent refillable. Can anyone tell me the differences between this and the flame king refill adapter? I dont have any FK bottles but will get some if this would work. THanks!
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It's not that you can't refill the little green bombs.
But it is illegal to transport them if they've been refilled according to the DOT.
That's not to say that somebody is out looking for people who have refilled bottles in their truck box.
But if you were in to get in a car accident and there was some kind of incident it could make you more liable or some such thing.
The flame King refillable system contains a stand to hold your tank upright. It also has a valve handle for the filling that is much easier to use than trying to reach under an upside down tank and turn it on and off. Plus it extends further out from the tank makimg it easier to put the tanks on and off.
Having used both I'm very happy I bought the flame King refill system and will not go back to the other style.
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It's not that you can't refill the little green bombs.
But it is illegal to transport them if they've been refilled according to the DOT.
That's not to say that somebody is out looking for people who have refilled bottles in their truck box.
But if you were in to get in a car accident and there was some kind of incident it could make you more liable or some such thing.
The flame King refillable system contains a stand to hold your tank upright. It also has a valve handle for the filling that is much easier to use than trying to reach under an upside down tank and turn it on and off. Plus it extends further out from the tank makimg it easier to put the tanks on and off.
Having used both I'm very happy I bought the flame King refill system and will not go back to the other style.
I don’t think there is a reason to get the flame king kit anymore. You can get the exact refill arm off Amazon for $20 & tanks for $14. The stand is ok…..but a modified milk crate works better IMO and doesn’t slip like the legs on the refill stand.
I guess it Probly comes down more to what a person can find though.
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Yeah the stand is terrible you can have mine if you want. Truck tail gate for the win. :)
As far as non flame king adapters? No they will technically not work with the Flame King bottles and vice versa. They have a plastic tab which makes it sort of proprietary. I've heard that you can either remove them or eventually they break off. Then it would work.
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https://el34world.com/Misc/Autos/PropaneRefill1.htm
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https://el34world.com/Misc/Autos/PropaneRefill1.htm
Wow that is way to much work.....I just snapped off TBE tab with my finger
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Lol right.
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Was able to fill green bombs without mods. Next time will take a closer look to figure out why and post results.
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https://el34world.com/Misc/Autos/PropaneRefill1.htm
I have been looking all over for the FK refill kit for weeks, the cheapest I saw was $49 for the stand, extended fill valve and a 1 pound bomb but no place has them in stock.
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I have been looking all over for the FK refill kit for weeks, the cheapest I saw was $49 for the stand, extended fill valve and a 1 pound bomb but no place has them in stock.
Shoot one of my local hardware stores has them in stock.
The kits and the refill bottles.
You just have to travel to Kenai Alaska to get it. 🤣
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Shoot one of my local hardware stores has them in stock.
The kits and the refill bottles.
You just have to travel to Kenai Alaska to get it. 🤣
LOL! Yup, doesn't that figure. I have searched about every outlet I can think of and all show them unavailable and out of stock. I won't be a bit surprised if I walk into a local hardware store and find a kit sitting on the shelf.
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Was able to fill green bombs without mods. Next time will take a closer look to figure out why and post results.
Again I filled little green bombs with FK refiller without any mods. Checked to see if tab was still there and it was. Help me understand why mods are advised.
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I have been looking all over for the FK refill kit for weeks, the cheapest I saw was $49 for the stand, extended fill valve and a 1 pound bomb but no place has them in stock.
I was doing the same, but ended up just buying a flame king bottle from Menards and this adapter from Amazon:
MENSI Update New Elbow Design QCC... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08SW3P167
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I was doing the same, but ended up just buying a flame king bottle from Menards and this adapter from Amazon:
MENSI Update New Elbow Design QCC... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08SW3P167
Thanks Kayl. I like that one and already have 4 of the FK refillable bottles.
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I had a flame king one pounder leak out of main valve after refill.
its a few years old ,not a recall number. never had a problem in numerous fillings
I contacted FK they are sending out a new sleeve and gasket set ,to install my self.
has anyone out there ever done this? any tricks?
also I asked their customer service about lubing the valve ,like an air rifle.
they had no recommendation has any one ever put a chapstik or silicone or vegatable oil on there and
what are your thoughts
and FK customer service is top notch, good bunch
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Got the refill kit several years ago. Now have 5 bottles. Sadly Ice season here in Nebraska is so short the past 5 or 6 years I only go through maybe two bottles. 😡 Just like the easy process.
Keep it safe! JDL
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I think I burned more propane this season then in the past 10 yrs combined. Since getting the FK refillable tanks I no longer worry about the use of propane. If I get cold crank up the heat in my Portable Buddy in my uninsulated two-man Frabill . One of the best investments I have made .
Just refilled two earlier today..
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I had a flame king one pounder leak out of main valve after refill.
its a few years old ,not a recall number. never had a problem in numerous fillings
I contacted FK they are sending out a new sleeve and gasket set ,to install my self.
has anyone out there ever done this? any tricks?
also I asked their customer service about lubing the valve ,like an air rifle.
they had no recommendation has any one ever put a chapstik or silicone or vegatable oil on there and
what are your thoughts
and FK customer service is top notch, good bunch
I have 4 repair kits sitting at home. I've looked at them several times and not really sure how to tangle with it either. I'm usually pretty good at this kind of thing, but I'm perplexed as well. I'm pretty sure the plastic sleeve pulls out and then the O-ring is seated underneath (similar to how the repair kit is assembled).
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Got the refill kit several years ago. Now have 5 bottles. Sadly Ice season here in Nebraska is so short the past 5 or 6 years I only go through maybe two bottles. 😡 Just like the easy process.
Keep it safe! JDL
Same here, I have 5, 2 for me, 2 for my buddy and a spare
I am now a propane junkie ;)
I run thing my heater ALOT more now that its a lot cheaper for me. Takes me less than a minute to refill.