Author Topic: ONEIDA LAKE DIEHARDS THREAD 2013/2014 (Read 827217 times)

315stickbow · « **Reply #3990 on:** Jan 31, 2014, 11:21 AM »

Quote from: CNY Fisherman on Jan 31, 2014, 11:01 AM

315 STICKBOW Any luck locating or recovering your 5 gallon pail and bait bucket? If not I would put up another post if I was you. Lot of great folks on here, maybe you will get lucky and you will have your items returned. Hope your items are returned to you and best of luck to you on the ice the remainder of the season!!!

Thanks! And nothing yet. Hopefully I can go find it. Otherwise I'm going to need a new chair!

CNY Fisherman · « **Reply #3991 on:** Jan 31, 2014, 11:38 AM »

Frabill makes a five gallon bucket/bait bucket with a padded lid. If that is not what you lost maybe that would make a good replacement.

crappiefisher311 · « **Reply #3992 on:** Jan 31, 2014, 12:37 PM »

Quote from: reeleyz on Jan 31, 2014, 09:06 AM

The walleye hatches have actually been very low (per Cornell) over the last several years compared to what it was historically. However, the walleye population is at 500,000 adult walleyes right now and holding steady. Anglers take anywhere from 40,000-60,000 walleyes a year out of the lake. I expect that take to be on the high end this year. But 60,000 out of 500,000 is not a huge impact when you have even these marginal year classes coming up.

We can only speculate on the true impact that catch and release walleye has. Obviously, it can't have a positive effect. All I know is that I rarely see a dead walleye floating in the summer. I am more worried about the people that are actually breaking the law by taking too many fish.

X2 on the barometer, should be fishing today.

Jevanicki6492 · « **Reply #3993 on:** Jan 31, 2014, 01:51 PM »

Anybody have any luck in Big Bay? Went out this morning, only got about a dozen small perch, no keepers.

bigZin315 · « **Reply #3994 on:** Jan 31, 2014, 02:16 PM »

Quote from: bart on Jan 30, 2014, 07:47 PM

Woke up this morning to 9 below zero and wimped out. Fished off Lewis Point from 1:00pm-5:30pm. Caught 4 Walleye, all short! Did managed one decent Perch.

Nice perch bart

bart · « **Reply #3995 on:** Jan 31, 2014, 02:21 PM »

Thanks everyone, getting back to the Walleyes tomorrow!

chummer16 · « **Reply #3996 on:** Jan 31, 2014, 02:24 PM »

Second day in a row of humble pie. 1 perch yesterday 2 today. This brings me back to my beginning days with no electronics. Williams yesterday, chapman today. Yesterday was all dinks, today was all nothing. Moved several times could not find a fish. Good luck to the weekend crowd, I will be back on Tuesday.

bart · « **Reply #3997 on:** Jan 31, 2014, 02:40 PM »

I've had a steady diet of humble pie. Can't pass up on tomorrows weather...

Oldtimer · « **Reply #3998 on:** Jan 31, 2014, 02:45 PM »

Will be interesting to see if all the ice traffic will put them down tomorrow.. Might be a good day to get away by yourself

Oldtimer · « **Reply #3999 on:** Jan 31, 2014, 02:49 PM »

Quote from: FISHFORPIKE on Jan 31, 2014, 10:04 AM

Been there several times - I believe all fry are transported out to the lake. I have some video footage from this past year.

https://plus.google.com/photos/102817719104191180746/albums/5864624790968399441

Thanks for the info. I have not been there in 50 years , back then I think they told me they just hatched in the jars and the water would float them over the top and into the creek.. Feel better about the operation now..

Buckethead · « **Reply #4000 on:** Jan 31, 2014, 04:15 PM »

Fished Taft again today 5 waldos only 1 keeper and 6 perch. First spot I was on the perch but want eyes so I moved and moved for 4 hrs. Don't leave fish to find fish ,how many times have I been told that, slow learner.

Pman · « **Reply #4001 on:** Jan 31, 2014, 04:46 PM »

Second consecutive good day on the big O. Same pattern as yesterday - marked lots of fish 8 to 10 feet off bottom and couldn't get anything to hit.

Got tired of that game and did some major hoofing. After 4 or 5 unproductive holes finally hit pay dirt. Iced 11 eyes, 5 good ones and 6 shorts and, of course, managed to dump 4 good ones on the way up. Buddy stayed in the same place we first stopped and also got a limit. On the ice by 6:30 but my fish did not come until 10:00 - 10:30.

bitts · « **Reply #4002 on:** Jan 31, 2014, 04:54 PM »

Hi guys. I was wondering if anybody can tell me how big the parking lot is at Chapman park ?Can I park a snowmobile trailer there with no problem?I've never been there before. I'm planning on going ice fishing tomorrow morning.

chummer16 · « **Reply #4003 on:** Jan 31, 2014, 04:56 PM »

Quote from: bitts on Jan 31, 2014, 04:54 PM

Hi guys. I was wondering if anybody can tell me how big the parking lot is at Chapman park ?Can I park a snowmobile trailer there with no problem?I've never been there before. I'm planning on going ice fishing tomorrow morning.

It is a big lot but fills up fast

icecutter2 · « **Reply #4004 on:** Jan 31, 2014, 04:58 PM »

Quote from: Oldtimer on Jan 31, 2014, 08:19 AM

Years ago... the size was 12 inches, limit 15, way back 25.. Like now, some knew how/where to fish and caught a lot of walleyes. They would catch their limit and leave. Now the "can catch" guys catch and release 40. 50 or more when on a bite. Everyone thinks they all live when they swim away. If they knew how many went to the bottom and died they might back off. Expect it is a wash between that and taking 15 or 25 off the ice.. There were a lot of fishermen years ago but they were sitters.. Put a shack out and go to it everyday and maybe moving it 2 or 3 times a year.. Even then some would get their limits, some a few and some none... There were crowds on the weekends but weekdays were very slim.. On the average, fishermen are much better now , all due to maps and electronics..
Oneida lake Eyes, and fishermen, have been blessed with several years in a row of great hatches and a continuous supply with no gaps.. 2 bad years will change that in a hurry.... It is a fragile system and getting more so as each invasive species arrives.. A bad year for either Eyes or perch and it gets tilted in a hurry.. Enjoy it while it is good... Be considerate and safe.....

Very well said Sir and very believable from back in the day. I've read somewhere that walleye taken in over 24' I think will have a hard time recovering if they do at all. I'll enjoy the good times while they are here because I'm not so naïve as to think it'll stay.

bitts · « **Reply #4005 on:** Jan 31, 2014, 04:59 PM »

wow thanks for fast response I'm hoping to get there around six in the morning thanks

rgizmo2001 · « **Reply #4006 on:** Jan 31, 2014, 05:02 PM »

Quote from: bitts on Jan 31, 2014, 04:59 PM

wow thanks for fast response I'm hoping to get there around six in the morning thanks

Hope you don't run into any issues. The derby going on tomorrow is gonna have that place packed by 630. I was there quite a bit the last couple of weeks and didn't have a problem but add a derby and the good weather and you would be amazed as to how fast it fills up

bitts · « **Reply #4007 on:** Jan 31, 2014, 05:08 PM »

thanks for the info I'll try to get there a little bit earlier

arcticicejigger · « **Reply #4008 on:** Jan 31, 2014, 05:11 PM »

out at shack. 2 guys 4 walleyes! 1 small perch lost a few! threw the whole box at em! all tight lipped! tuff tuff day!

kingfisher22 · « **Reply #4009 on:** Jan 31, 2014, 05:25 PM »

Quote from: Oldtimer on Jan 31, 2014, 08:19 AM

Years ago... the size was 12 inches, limit 15, way back 25.. Like now, some knew how/where to fish and caught a lot of walleyes. They would catch their limit and leave. Now the "can catch" guys catch and release 40. 50 or more when on a bite. Everyone thinks they all live when they swim away. If they knew how many went to the bottom and died they might back off. Expect it is a wash between that and taking 15 or 25 off the ice.. There were a lot of fishermen years ago but they were sitters.. Put a shack out and go to it everyday and maybe moving it 2 or 3 times a year.. Even then some would get their limits, some a few and some none... There were crowds on the weekends but weekdays were very slim.. On the average, fishermen are much better now , all due to maps and electronics..
Oneida lake Eyes, and fishermen, have been blessed with several years in a row of great hatches and a continuous supply with no gaps.. 2 bad years will change that in a hurry.... It is a fragile system and getting more so as each invasive species arrives.. A bad year for either Eyes or perch and it gets tilted in a hurry.. Enjoy it while it is good... Be considerate and safe.....

In Fisherman did an article on delayed mortality of released walleyes a few years back. It was based on research data and not simply their speculation. If I recall correctly they put delayed mortality at 18%. That's considerable! However, it was based on tournament caught and released fish. I would suspect fish caught through the ice, minimally handled and quickly released would be subject to a much lower mortality rate. Don't hold me exactly to the results as I am going from memory, but the point is delayed mortality is at least something to consider.

I hear people frequently complain about the NYDEC and how they don't know what their doing (obviously not everyone has that opinion), but I believe the state and Cornell have a very good handle on the fishery and do an excellent job managing it. I think the proof is in the quality of the fishery we have here...but like the Old Timer says, a few variables change and new ones are thrown into the mix and it can all change pretty quickly.

Appreciate it and RESPECT it!

Oldtimer · « **Reply #4010 on:** Jan 31, 2014, 05:56 PM »

The best thing the DEC ever did was stop the sale of Walleyes. I can recall them once saying there were over a million legal walleyes in the lake. But that might have been when the size was 12 inches..

drowndin dots · « **Reply #4011 on:** Jan 31, 2014, 06:03 PM »

Quote from: Murph20 on Jan 31, 2014, 08:26 AM

Well said... The guys that catch 20, 30, 40 and release,, are a joke... it does more harm than good....( this will get em goin)..

What is your deal? Every time you post it seems to be a shot at someone on here, are you jealous or just getting pathetic kicks from stirring the pot

Would you suggest that when a limit of eyes is obtained one should leave the ice rather than keep fishing .........

Murph20 · « **Reply #4012 on:** Jan 31, 2014, 06:24 PM »

Quote from: drowndin dots on Jan 31, 2014, 06:03 PM

What is your deal? Every time you post it seems to be a shot at someone on here, are you jealous or just getting pathetic kicks from stirring the pot Would you suggest that when a limit of eyes is obtained one should leave the ice rather than keep fishing .........

that's exactly what I'm sayin, hope your hooks are as sharp as you..

pooch2543 · « **Reply #4013 on:** Jan 31, 2014, 06:26 PM »

kingfisher22 · « **Reply #4014 on:** Jan 31, 2014, 06:28 PM »

Here we go...

315stickbow · « **Reply #4015 on:** Jan 31, 2014, 06:30 PM »

I have boxing gloves...

kingfisher22 · « **Reply #4016 on:** Jan 31, 2014, 06:31 PM »

Oh, and for the record if I get on a hot bite and get my limit quickly I'm staying and going to keep fishing. That's what I look forward to. I will carefully handle and release the fish.

Drewski121 · « **Reply #4017 on:** Jan 31, 2014, 06:36 PM »

...DD......

iceman1603 · « **Reply #4018 on:** Jan 31, 2014, 06:38 PM »

Quote from: ShaneO19 on Jan 30, 2014, 06:06 PM

I have ice fished quite a bit on Oneida now but have never caught a white perch. Just wondering what part of the lake and depth people catch them in. I know a lot of people consider them a nuisance and not great to eat but I think they are about as good as a yellow perch and wouldn't mind catching them.

Just follow me around for the weekend. I cant get away fom them. Ive only been out 3 times this yr but I have pobly caught 30 of em' Cant seem to shake them. Jiggin and tip ups they keep findin me!!!!

chummer16 · « **Reply #4019 on:** Jan 31, 2014, 06:39 PM »

I don't care that guys do it but seems like a waste of time to me. There are so many giant perch in the lake, that is what I would be after. Of coarse any walleye I catch are by accident. Those perch are so tasty, but I digress.

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