here is a quote from TJC on the slammer issue and an e-mail he recieved from robert lucas. i will post the thred at the bottom
Here is the write up on slammertipup.com
maybe this will help they are makers of slammer tipups
Q: Are Slammer Tip-Ups classified as "tip-ups" or "fishing rods" by the State of New York??
A: Attached Message
From: Robert Lucas
To:
[email protected]Subject: "Slammer" question
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 18:03:33 -0400
Hi Fisherman,
We have had numerous questions similar to yours over the years as different
tip-up types and modifications have appeared. Here's my take on this subject,
and I acknowledge up front that I am biased in favor of the fisherman, both
because I fish and because I think the sportsman should be given every
opportunity and every consideration when we can allow a new technique, tool or
method. My take on the Slammer: it is clearly designed to be used without
constant tending or handling by the angler. It is designed to operate in the
same fashion as a tip-up, in that it just sits there until a fish takes the bait
and trips the device to signal the angler that there has been fish activity.
After the device has been tripped the fisherman comes over and pulls the fish
out through the ice. We must remember that there is no definition of tip-up or
fishing rod. The law ( 11-0103-12(b) ) states that each fisherman is allowed to
use two lines, with or without rod. Regulations (NYCRR 10.4) allow a fisherman,
when fishing through the ice to use five tip-ups in addition to two hand lines.
However neither the law or rules and regs provide a definition of what a tip-up
is or is not. As you know, tip-ups now come in all kinds of different shapes,
configurations, styles and operational methods. There are even "tip-downs" that
we have allowed fisherman to use over the years. Because there is such a wide
range of types I think that we would have a very difficult time in court trying
to articulate what a tip-up is or that the "Slammer" is not. And the bottom line
is why do we want to restrict what fisherman can classify as a tip-up? What
benefit do we or the resource gain? In this instance I think we can hang our hat
on the fact that this is a device that is set up and then activated by the fish
biting the bait and causing the device to signal such bite to the fisherman -
just like every other tip-up out there on the ice. The "Slammer" is not designed
to be held in the hand or used like a traditional fishing or jigging rod.
Therefore it is a tip-up.
If you have any further questions please let me know.
--Director Bob Lucas
Director Robert T. Lucas
NYSDEC Division of Law Enforcement
625 Broadway
Albany, NY 12233-2500
Office (518) 402-8829
Fax (518) 402-8830
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