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Title: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jan 12, 2011, 03:07 PM
I picked this beast up about a month ago, I paid $100.00 for it and can't wait to rip it apart.  The plan is to gut it out, insulate the floor and frame her up.  I am planning on using the existing roof cap.  It should give me approximately 10' X 6' 6" of usable space on the inside.
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Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: DoubleBurg on Jan 12, 2011, 04:25 PM
Drill some holes in the floor and it's ready to go haha  ;D

Back in the day my family had a pop up almost identical to that one.  Boy do I miss camping in that thing.  Good luck on the project.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jan 12, 2011, 05:08 PM
I am hoping to be able to fit at least four holes in the floor with covers depending on how the frame is set up.  I am going to try to salvage the dinette in the front along with the heater and sink on the middle wall.  The tentative plan is to put a bunk bed type set up on the rear wall and completely wire it up with lighting and outlets when we get it framed up with windows
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Big Fortin on Jan 12, 2011, 06:42 PM
Will be nice when it is done post lots of pictures  ;)
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: DoubleBurg on Jan 12, 2011, 08:33 PM
It's actually not a bad idea to use one of those as a base.  They don't weigh that much and have a lot of things like a heater, fridge, dinnette/bed already built in. 
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: willie1280 on Jan 12, 2011, 08:46 PM
Looks like a steal for $100 bucks!!  Even if you ripped the thing down to the frame, still worth the $100 bucks.

NICE SCORE!!
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: terry fish on Jan 13, 2011, 04:16 AM
That looks like a fun project. Cant wait to see the photos when your done.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jan 13, 2011, 10:48 AM
I was thinking about doing the pine tongue and groove on the inside, but now I am thinking about going with the cedar. I think I better start picking up a few items here and there each week.  I think this might get a tad bit expensive.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jan 13, 2011, 10:55 AM
I built this for my nephew this summer, I am thinking that I should have just put some runners under this and used it for my ice shack.
(http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g337/Rob_Luke/playhouse2.jpg)
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Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: snowman6902 on Jan 13, 2011, 11:01 AM
That would be awesome to see on the ice. Or like one of those crooked houses playhouses.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jan 13, 2011, 11:03 AM
too bad my big arse doesn't fit through the door very well. LOL
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on May 28, 2011, 04:16 PM
I finally got a start on ripping her apart.
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Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Greg2ha on May 28, 2011, 05:21 PM
Good time to get those ice fishing projects rolling! ;D Looks like it will make a nice unit!
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: sawmillr on Jun 04, 2011, 07:41 AM
Looks like you got a good start,keep us posted.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on May 29, 2012, 02:04 PM
Finally able to get back to my project.  I am no longer going to keep the original base.  What a rotted mess.  It's now going to get ripped apart all the way to the frame.
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Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: surflizard on May 29, 2012, 02:17 PM
Hey rjluke70,
 There is a pop up camper build from the metal frame here in the thread called amazingly enough, the Popup camper build ! Joedirt started in the very same place you are now and it can be frustrating ! Check out the post and it will give you a wealth of tips and tricks that will save you a lot of time and money !
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on May 29, 2012, 03:32 PM
I did see that build, I can't believe how many screws are in these pop up campers.  It really amazes me on how cheaply built these campers are for what they cost new.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on May 31, 2012, 08:34 AM
More of the mess
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Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Bigfish713 on May 31, 2012, 02:18 PM
Take the metal u are tearing of it to the scrap yard u will get some cash back to use for new materials.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Bout-Time on Jun 01, 2012, 07:41 PM
Lookin like a good project. Keep the pics a comin!

Im still looking for a donor pop up to build mine out of....
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jun 05, 2012, 01:20 PM
So after the last couple nights at work, I've been playing with a 3d floor planner web site and thought that I had come up with the "Ultimate Ice Shack"  plan.  A little large on the inside at 12' x 6'.  So today I am back at ripping the old camper apart and have an idea.  What if I shorten the plan and only bring the back wall to the end of the wheel wells and leave the area behind the wheel wells an open floor for hauling the snowmobile and portable?  The benefits less to build, lighter, and I could do the base camp thing and still run and gun with the portable and sled.  On the down side less people can fish out of it/camp.  Any thoughts? 
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Bout-Time on Jun 05, 2012, 02:31 PM
Thats a good idea actually.

Lets you haul stuff without messing up the inside of the shack. (and gives you a porch to sit on during the warmer days)
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: HVFD14 on Jun 05, 2012, 03:43 PM
So after the last couple nights at work, I've been playing with a 3d floor planner web site and thought that I had come up with the "Ultimate Ice Shack"  plan.  A little large on the inside at 12' x 6'.  So today I am back at ripping the old camper apart and have an idea.  What if I shorten the plan and only bring the back wall to the end of the wheel wells and leave the area behind the wheel wells an open floor for hauling the snowmobile and portable?  The benefits less to build, lighter, and I could do the base camp thing and still run and gun with the portable and sled.  On the down side less people can fish out of it/camp.  Any thoughts?

Don't forget about having enough tongue weight if you are planning to have the snowmobile on the very back.  Otherwise, your backside might chew a hole through yer britches if she gets loose on ya!
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jun 05, 2012, 04:48 PM
I'm worried about having too much tongue weight, I am planning on packing the front with deep cycle batteries and the sleeping bunks.  It will be a trial and error type thing, I think I will go with the full frame for the shack.  The fishing group has voted for the room.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jun 05, 2012, 04:54 PM
And the mess continues,  I need to hire some high school kids for this project, what a pain for a fat guy with a bad back.  Hopefully if it doesn't rain tomorrow, I will have it down to the frame.
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Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jun 05, 2012, 05:00 PM
Here is the general idea that I am going for.

http://pl.an/n69stm
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Bout-Time on Jun 05, 2012, 07:09 PM
Looks good Luke, kinda what I was planning but Im having a small bathroom.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jun 05, 2012, 07:50 PM
I was playing with idea of a small bathroom also, but what I think I may do is build a bucket toilet in one of the wheel well boxes with a removable top that will double as a sitting area with the toilet seat hidden under neath.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Guinea on Jun 05, 2012, 08:39 PM
Nice plan! Plenty of room....and a stove to boot!

Sorry, but I couldn't help but notice the crashed out drunk guy in the picture!  :roflmao:

Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: surflizard on Jun 06, 2012, 05:46 AM
Give the frame a real good once over when you get her stripped all the way, a lot of them have rot from being parked on grass and it can open up a whole new can of worms.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jun 06, 2012, 04:59 PM
Day 4 on "Project make my yard look like a bomb went off"  I was thinking that removing the old floor would be the easiest part of this project so far, it wasn't.  My plan was to use the trusty heavy duty spud bar and just pry it off.  That didn't work, low and behold the middle of the floor was pretty solid.  O.K. onto plan B.  Pull off the vinyl flooring and find all the screws, back them out and pull out the press board.  That didn't work either.  The rotten vinyl came off and left the glue and backing on the floor, I couldn't see the screws.  Onto plan C.  Break out the trusty jig saw.  Made some progress, but did not get it all completed today.  The old camper won this round.  Next Tuesday the battle will continue.  On a good note, the frame does look really good, may have to break out the wire wheel and go over it, then repaint or coat it.
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Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Lavman on Jun 07, 2012, 06:54 AM
You're gaining on it. Do you have a sawsall? That would make short work of the floor deck.

If you are going to go after the frame may I suggest POR-15? http://www.por15.com/POR-15-Rust-Preventive-Paint/products/1/

I have used on many projects and it is amazing stuff. You have it this far along, may as well make the frame protected forever.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jun 07, 2012, 09:52 AM
Lavman, how much of the PREP & READY and MARINE-CLEAN would you guestamate I would need for the frame?  The frame is approximately 6'6" X 12' plus the tongue.  Do you think that a gallon of each would do the trick?
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Lavman on Jun 07, 2012, 12:01 PM
A quart of each would be plenty for the marine clean and the prep and ready, a pint of the paint would do it then you should top coat it with something, I use the spray undercoating that POR sells for $18/can, maybe 3 cans of the undercoating would do you for 2 coats on that frame. You'll be sealed and good to go.

A pint may not sound like much but this stuff is thin and covers really well, I bet you can get 2 coats of POR paint on the frame out of the pint. IF you are worried get the quart but I bet the pint would do it. WEAR THE GLOVES. You get the POR paint on you and you have to wear it off  ;D
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jun 08, 2012, 08:24 AM
Sounds good, I'm going to order some right now.  I did notice that the company says to rinse it with hot water, I hope this isn't a dire necessity, I don't think the garden hose is going to get very hot.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Lavman on Jun 08, 2012, 09:10 AM
Sounds good, I'm going to order some right now.  I did notice that the company says to rinse it with hot water, I hope this isn't a dire necessity, I don't think the garden hose is going to get very hot.

I used the garden hose as well, worked fine. Good luck with it!
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jun 20, 2012, 09:47 AM
Finally got the floor off this beast.  Now to remove the last of the screws and cut off the old gas lines and wiring.  Hopefully in the next day or two I can get the frame treated.  My buddy says I should reinforce the leaf springs.  I may just remove the old axle and springs before treating the frame and replace it with a new set up.  Depending on how hot it is outside in the next couple days, maybe I can get something accomplished.
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Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: surflizard on Jun 20, 2012, 11:59 AM
Nice frame set up, lots of hole location options ! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: P Meyette on Jun 20, 2012, 04:04 PM
you are making progress it will be all worth it when she is done
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jun 20, 2012, 04:50 PM
I would like to be a little further ahead on this project, but I'm playing the wuss card.  It's too hot outside, so I do a little here and there.  I plan on dragging this project out for awhile.  I keep finding more places to dump money into it than I had anticipated.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: OldSailor on Jun 20, 2012, 05:55 PM
Keep up the good work!! Play the wuss card!! It's 90+ degrees here and you've got pleanty of time yet. Wouldn't do any good to get heatstoke, now would it?? Love all the photos and will be following along with the build as you go!! There is alot of information on this site! Just ask the right questions to get help on any problems!! :thumbsup: :clap:
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: mark4493 on Jun 20, 2012, 09:43 PM
Sounds like a nice plan. Can't wait until it is finished so I can see it.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: surflizard on Jun 21, 2012, 05:19 AM
Here are some shots of Joe Dirt's camper wheel house on the ice for inspiration ! Your doing a Great job ! :thumbsup:
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l113/lael19533/Antknees%20Ice%20Fishing%20Mayhem/metal%20roofing/iceshackframe2-1.jpg)
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Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Bout-Time on Jun 21, 2012, 06:58 AM
Slow and steady wins the race Luke, keep on chuggin along.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rugby ice on Jun 21, 2012, 10:10 AM
Looks like a fun summer project!!! Just think of how chilly it will be when using this and that off sets the 90degree temps.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: masoneddie on Jun 21, 2012, 12:49 PM
Good things take time..... :thumbsup: Take all the time you need, it will be worth it for years.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Relheok on Jun 22, 2012, 05:30 PM
Looks good for sure. I am hoping to start my shanty re-hab in the next few weeks.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jun 25, 2012, 08:07 PM
Finally got something accomplished today.  The frame is completely stripped down.  Tomorrow afternoon my buddy is coming by to do some maintenance welds and help me remove the dent in the rear bumper.  Then hopefully we can hang the new axle and heavy duty springs.  Then I can treat the frame and coat it.
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I did learn a valuable lesson today, when you pound out the last bolt to drop your axle, move your foot before it falls!!!
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All hosed down and ready to be treated,  I think I displaced a family of chipmunks!
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My carpenter buddy stopped by after work today and we put together a game plan for the upcoming build, Can't wait, maybe in the next couple weeks we can start putting some wood down.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: surflizard on Jun 26, 2012, 06:01 AM
You got her looking real Good RJ, WellDone ! I see the A frame for your hitch is a tad longer then Joe Dirts was, it makes for a real nice out of the way spot for your heat source !
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l113/lael19533/Antknees%20Ice%20Fishing%20Mayhem/metal%20roofing/window13.jpg)
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jun 26, 2012, 09:17 AM
I was thinking about doing that, but I tossed out the wood stove Idea for now.  I am going to utilize my buddy heaters.  I know that the down fall from previous experience is that I won't have a dry heat source and will have to deal with condensation. It's nothing that can't be changed later on down the road.  I am thinking of building a box in the front with an insert to hold gear and/or minnow buckets in place.  Then I will have a outdoor outlet near the box to plug in the oxygen pump for the minnows.  This should keep oxygen level up for them and keep the water from freezing.  I do like what Joe did on his build, but I want to stay away from doing a copy of his work.  Trying to keep it original, if that is really possible for a ice fishing shack.     
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jun 26, 2012, 12:18 PM
Somebody please remind me why ice fishing is fun.  This project went from a nice simple build that looked good on paper to a night mare.  I keep thinking I'm making progress and getting one foot ahead, then Bam take three back.  Its a good thing that I'm not on any sort of time frame for this project.  My buddy tells me I should beef up my suspension, so I drop the axle and leaf springs.  It was a good idea until I went to the trailer dealership.  I took the old set up in for measurements.  No problem for the axle, but come to find out the leaf springs in a old pop up camper are not a normal size.  My springs are 30"  So after an hour of trying to come up with a solution, I was given a number to call a company that builds custom springs.  Can't wait to hear what the cost of that will be.  :'(  So my plan for the day to hang a new suspension is now null and void.  The new axle won't be here for 3 weeks.  Well on a good note, at least it will give me time to build up the funds again.  I'm thinking that it would have been cheaper to buy a Ice Castle.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jun 26, 2012, 01:59 PM
The trailer shop can stick it, I found the leaf springs I needed on line in five minutes.  The custom shop wanted $150.00 a spring, that's not happening.  I ended up going with a 3500 pound rated axle and 1500 pound springs.  Should do the trick I hope.  If nothing else, it's still a big improvement over the stock axle and springs.  Now I just have to wait for the parts to arrive.  It will give me a couple weeks to get the yard cleaned up.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jun 27, 2012, 07:54 PM
Another brilliant move on my part again today.  My frame is/was being held up by cheap plastic jack stands.  I found them in the camper so I used them, bad idea.  So I spent the whole day prepping the frame for painting.  Using the POR 15 system got to the Prep and Ready stage, rinsed it all off.  Now I'm running out of day light, I only have an hour and half for the frame to dry so that I can start painting.  So I then decide to lift up on the back of the frame to help drain out some of the water in the channels.  That's when physics took over and it all shifted forward and on the ground it goes.  I really need to learn to stop working on things when I get over tired.  So in the mean time the frame is now being held off the ground by two empty propane tanks, I know, not the the safest way to work, but it will do until morning.  Did I mention that lifting up a 12' frame by yourself really bites!! >:(  So new jacks stands are now on the shopping list for tomorrow.  I think I will send my boss a email and see if I can weasel a vacation day for tomorrow night and if that flies I should be able to get the frame painted.
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Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Joedirt34 on Jun 27, 2012, 09:29 PM
Stick with it my freind ! It will all be worth it in the end when your on the ice ! I've been where you are ( more than once )
 Take a step back !
I still have work to do on mine ( bump out roof Surf )
 When it's out there and The first fish comes up its all worth it !
  Best of luck !
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jun 27, 2012, 09:56 PM
Thanks Joe, That's actually good advice, I go back to work tomorrow night and I am thinking that besides getting the frame painted I'm going to leave it be for a couple weeks.  Really can't do much until my axle and springs arrive, besides it will probably take me those two sets of days off to clean up my mess in the yard from the demolition.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: OldSailor on Jun 28, 2012, 06:52 AM
I couldn't help but notice the new fenders you got for your build. Not a big deal in the grand scheme of things, but the old ones looked like dumpster filler!! Are they galvanized, or will you be treating them along with the frame ??? Keep up the good work and don't get in a hurry. You have pleanty of time and it's easier to think things out and do it just once, than to have to re-do something!! Hang in there!! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jun 28, 2012, 07:25 AM
I couldn't help but notice the new fenders you got for your build. Not a big deal in the grand scheme of things, but the old ones looked like dumpster filler!! Are they galvanized, or will you be treating them along with the frame ??? Keep up the good work and don't get in a hurry. You have pleanty of time and it's easier to think things out and do it just once, than to have to re-do something!! Hang in there!! :thumbsup:

I haven't decided on what I'm going to do with the fenders at this point.  It's going to depend on how were work them into the build.  I picked them up at Tractor Supply and did not have any measurements with me that day, so it was pure guestimating on how they would fit.  They ended up being a tad bit longer and the width was a little shorter than I wanted, but overall they will still get used.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Joedirt34 on Jun 28, 2012, 07:40 AM
Oh boy do I know about doing things over ! Put the roof on 4 times !!!
What are your plans for insulation ? I didn't do the floor at first and ended up going back and doing it ! It makes a huge difference ! I have wood heat so a little went along way . Had it up over 90 several times ! Surf will tell he slept out in it on the coldest night last winter ( with wind chill it was well below zero ) and he was in heat heaven !
   
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Lavman on Jun 28, 2012, 08:01 AM
How much POR 15 did you end up ordering? The more I look at that frame and all the surface area the more I think 2 pints may be needed for 2 coats.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: OldSailor on Jun 28, 2012, 09:09 AM
Oh boy do I know about doing things over ! Put the roof on 4 times !!!
What are your plans for insulation ? I didn't do the floor at first and ended up going back and doing it ! It makes a huge difference ! I have wood heat so a little went along way . Had it up over 90 several times ! Surf will tell he slept out in it on the coldest night last winter ( with wind chill it was well below zero ) and he was in heat heaven !
 
There was an old saying my Mom used to tell me when I was a kid: "The hurrieder you go, the behinder you get!" I believe it's PA Dutch!! ;D
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jun 28, 2012, 10:49 AM
How much POR 15 did you end up ordering? The more I look at that frame and all the surface area the more I think 2 pints may be needed for 2 coats.

I ordered a quart of the POR 15.  I did weasel the night off, so the plan is to re jack up the frame and get it painted today.  I did do two applications of the marine clean and one good solid coating of the prep and ready yesterday.  I am hoping it works, it was pretty hot out yesterday and the chemicals pretty much dried in minutes on the frame, but when it came to hosing off the chemicals it looked like hosing off soap suds.  the prep and ready did dull on the frame so I'm thinking it did its job.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jun 28, 2012, 10:58 AM
Oh boy do I know about doing things over ! Put the roof on 4 times !!!
What are your plans for insulation ? I didn't do the floor at first and ended up going back and doing it ! It makes a huge difference ! I have wood heat so a little went along way . Had it up over 90 several times ! Surf will tell he slept out in it on the coldest night last winter ( with wind chill it was well below zero ) and he was in heat heaven !
 

I was going to use the spray on foam under the floor, but my carpenter buddy gave me the stink eye on that idea.  He wants to put down the Styrofoam sheets on the frame then put down the floor boards.  I will probably use the same stuff for the walls, and use the spray foam to go over the seams and gaps. 
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jun 28, 2012, 11:13 AM
Joe, did you do anything to beef up your axle and springs?  I wanted to put bigger tires on mine, but they wouldn't fit with out cutting out parts of the frame.  I wasn't going to mess with that.  Yours looks it has more clearance than mine.  I may have to lift mine a little more so that it doesn't drag going up and down the boat landings.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: da man cave shack on Jun 28, 2012, 11:34 AM
rjluke70 are you beefing up the axel so it weigh more or so you get more clearance? and if it is so it can way more I built one out of an almost identical camper last year and it weighs 2600 lbs and the stock spring and axel work just fine.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jun 28, 2012, 12:23 PM
rjluke70 are you beefing up the axel so it weigh more or so you get more clearance? and if it is so it can way more I built one out of an almost identical camper last year and it weighs 2600 lbs and the stock spring and axel work just fine.

I'm putting on a 3500 pound axle and 1500 pound springs on each side.  The original axle ran on the inside of the leaf springs, with the new set up it will be put on the outside of the springs.  This will give me a couple more inches, and if need be I can get stackable plates to add a few inches.
The reason for the extra suspension is for all the added weight that will be going on the inside. (cabinets, bunks, batteries, tongue and grove, ect.)  I am foreseeing this thing being one heavy pig 
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: da man cave shack on Jun 28, 2012, 12:46 PM
I'm putting on a 3500 pound axle and 1500 pound springs on each side.  The original axle ran on the inside of the leaf springs, with the new set up it will be put on the outside of the springs.  This will give me a couple more inches, and if need be I can get stackable plates to add a few inches.
The reason for the extra suspension is for all the added weight that will be going on the inside. (cabinets, bunks, batteries, tongue and grove, ect.)  I am foreseeing this thing being one heavy pig
Ya they always are bigger or weigh more than pland.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jun 28, 2012, 01:31 PM
Here's a blast from the past.  This is my old ice shack from about 2007.  "The Angry Beavers Fishing Lodge"
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Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Joedirt34 on Jun 28, 2012, 03:34 PM
I added nothing to beef it up ! The ciearance on mine was perfect ( if not on the high side after being jacked up off the ice ) used buckets for sleeves ( had to put 2 together to make the distance to the ice )
Good call on the rigid foam ! I used the thinnest I could find ( the type you would use on a foundation ) works perfect no problem heating it ! I also vapor wrapped it all with thick mill plastic no moisture issues at all ! Of course I'm using wood heat .
 I've never weighed it but it's so well balance I can move it by hand and the wheeler had no issues pulling it .
Was on 12 inches of ice with no issues . When jacked up I had 6 points of contact a jack at each corner and ramps under each tire . Easy on easy off ! All the work was worth it ! I'm already planning my next one ! Lol
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jun 28, 2012, 04:12 PM
I'm hoping this is my last build for a good long time.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jun 28, 2012, 09:04 PM
The frame treated with POR 15
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Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jun 28, 2012, 09:08 PM
The boss man is not going to be happy with me when I go to work tomorrow night.  I got POR 15 all over me and I look like a zebra! It's probably a good thing that I work by myself in a dark little cubby hole.
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Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Joedirt34 on Jun 28, 2012, 09:33 PM
Just looks like you put in a honest days work ! Frame looks great ! I was thinking I should have done that but my frame was in pretty good shape ! Hope I don't regret it ! What's the plan for siding it ?
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jun 28, 2012, 09:45 PM
Just looks like you put in a honest days work ! Frame looks great ! I was thinking I should have done that but my frame was in pretty good shape ! Hope I don't regret it ! What's the plan for siding it ?

I'm going to use the same type metal sheeting that you used. 
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: da man cave shack on Jun 29, 2012, 12:16 PM
After reading your blog yester day about the springs I did watch a youtube video about ice fishing and they built a shack that ended up weighing too much and it blew both tiers and flatened the leif springs so if you do plan on it being heavy than I think your idea about making the springs beefyer is a good idea. And nice looking frame, I bet that will last forever. cant wait to see more pics of yur build.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Lavman on Jun 29, 2012, 12:37 PM
Oh dude! I told ya to wear the gloves, that chit don't wash off, you have to WEAR it off LOL!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Lavman on Jun 29, 2012, 12:39 PM
BTW, good looking paint job. Are you going to do a top coat on it or leave it as is since it should not see much UV light? Trailer frame looks better than new!!  ;)
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jun 29, 2012, 04:14 PM
Oh dude! I told ya to wear the gloves, that chit don't wash off, you have to WEAR it off LOL!! ;D ;D

I did start the project by wearing gloves, but it was so hot out the gloves drove me nuts.  Besides by the time I tossed the gloves, I already had the stuff all over every other part of my body anyway.  There were a couple times that I ended up painting myself in a corner and had to crawl out, so needless to say its on my legs, shoulders, arms.  The real downfall was that I was only able to get one coat on the frame with the quart.  There are a lot of nicks and crannys  on that frame.  Hopefully that will suffice, I know that it says to put two on, but at this point I think I will just spray it down with rubber undercoat.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Lavman on Jul 02, 2012, 06:32 AM
Well if you burned up a whole quart in one coat I would say you probably have adequate coverage and thickness. The only way to make that paint job easier is to put the frame on a rotisserie so you can get at all the surfaces easier. Looks good!
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jul 02, 2012, 07:59 AM
Well if you burned up a whole quart in one coat I would say you probably have adequate coverage and thickness. The only way to make that paint job easier is to put the frame on a rotisserie so you can get at all the surfaces easier. Looks good!

I took a look at it this morning after work and it looks really good,  I think that a good coating of the rubber undercoating and it should be good to go.  I will go over the tongue and rear bumper with black gloss spray paint.  Those are the only places that will be seen after the build.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jul 02, 2012, 08:06 AM
One of my fishing buddies came into work this morning crying about how his wife spends to much money in cherry master machines every time they go out for cocktails.  So then the little light bulb goes off in my head, I'm going to find me one of those small bar top cherry masters and put it in my new shack.  Then I'm going to invite her to come fishing with us.  I will no longer have to pay for gas, bait, beer and I may even recoup some of the money I am spending on my build.  I'm sure on those slow fishing days my other buddies may even get bored and spend some money. 
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Lavman on Jul 05, 2012, 08:23 AM
One of my fishing buddies came into work this morning crying about how his wife spends to much money in cherry master machines every time they go out for cocktails.  So then the little light bulb goes off in my head, I'm going to find me one of those small bar top cherry masters and put it in my new shack.  Then I'm going to invite her to come fishing with us.  I will no longer have to pay for gas, bait, beer and I may even recoup some of the money I am spending on my build.  I'm sure on those slow fishing days my other buddies may even get bored and spend some money.

LOL!! Love it! Great idea  ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: OldSailor on Jul 12, 2012, 01:11 PM
How's the shack comming along?? We haven't heard anything recently, except for your other post about gas lines. Have you any updates for us ??? You got me hooked on your project!! ;)2
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jul 12, 2012, 01:38 PM
How's the shack comming along?? We haven't heard anything recently, except for your other post about gas lines. Have you any updates for us ??? You got me hooked on your project!! ;)2

Still waiting on my new axle.  I did get it coated with rubberized undercoating, installed new safety chains and tongue jack.  I ended up banging up my right hand working in my wood shop, so needless to say all my fingers are bruised kind of put a kabosh on doing to much.  What a great start to my vacation.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jul 13, 2012, 12:08 PM
The axle has arrived!!!! now hopefully I can get the springs and axle on it and have a rolling chassis.  Then I can at least pull that into my garage and get out of the heat while I work on it.  ;D
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: OldSailor on Jul 13, 2012, 12:20 PM
How's your hand and fingers doing?? Just what did you do to them ??? Snap a couple of pics to post of the axle install!! Thanks!!
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jul 13, 2012, 05:20 PM
How's your hand and fingers doing?? Just what did you do to them ??? Snap a couple of pics to post of the axle install!! Thanks!!

I bought a tongue jack at tractor supply and it didn't fit in the metal hole of the front plate that I had so after two hours of trying to widen the hole in the front plate with a dremel and stone with no luck.  So then I get the bright idea to make a new mount out of 2x4's and cut a hole in the middle.  It was still a tad too small, so instead of taking it apart, I put it over my spindle sander, well it got away from me and nailed my right hand.  Thought for sure I broke all my fingers.  Luckily it just bruised the heck out of them.  One of the those things you know you shouldn't do, but you do it to try to save time.  Well it cost me four days so it wasn't exactly a time saver.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jul 13, 2012, 05:36 PM
Got the new springs and axle on today plus another $200.00 for tires.  At least now I can back it into the garage and get out of the sun.  What a hot beast it has been to be working on this project.  Hard to think of ice fishing in this heat. 
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I'm not sure what I'm going to do with the fenders, I may cut them down an inch or two.  They kind of sit on the frame a little high.  I may just enclose them when the siding gets put on.  I did manage to get a few more inches of lift by putting the axle under the springs, hopefully it will be enough to get up and down the boat landings.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: surflizard on Jul 13, 2012, 05:50 PM
You got her looking real Sharp RJ, Well Done !
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: OldSailor on Jul 13, 2012, 06:27 PM
Glad your hand is on the mend! I was always told that haste makes waste, and you ended up with 4 days of it!! That frame looks great, and with your axles and tires on it, you can wheel it into the garage to work on it. Just my $.02 worth on the fenders, but just leave them and cover them with some siding. You want to be able to get at them if ever the need arises, so you may want to do some sort of radius cut depending how far down the siding goes!!
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: yoslick on Jul 13, 2012, 06:48 PM
You ought to hook on to that thing right now with what ever your going to use to pull it most this winter and find some steep driveways and see how she does going up n down, bet you could put that axle inside the spring instead of under, trust me it'll make a world of difference the closer you are to the ice!!, I'd kill to get my camper 6 inches closer to the ice, banking snow sucks, especially when there ain't any!! They make RV wheelie wheels to mount on the back if she drags a little, not very spendy either..

Slick!
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jul 13, 2012, 07:09 PM
Glad your hand is on the mend! I was always told that haste makes waste, and you ended up with 4 days of it!! That frame looks great, and with your axles and tires on it, you can wheel it into the garage to work on it. Just my $.02 worth on the fenders, but just leave them and cover them with some siding. You want to be able to get at them if ever the need arises, so you may want to do some sort of radius cut depending how far down the siding goes!!

I think that I will cover them with the siding.  Then I will dig out the old fender trim from the camper and use them as a template and make some new ones to dress the area up a little.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jul 13, 2012, 07:18 PM
You ought to hook on to that thing right now with what ever your going to use to pull it most this winter and find some steep driveways and see how she does going up n down, bet you could put that axle inside the spring instead of under, trust me it'll make a world of difference the closer you are to the ice!!, I'd kill to get my camper 6 inches closer to the ice, banking snow sucks, especially when there ain't any!! They make RV wheelie wheels to mount on the back if she drags a little, not very spendy either..

Slick!

The original set up had the axle inside the springs and it really hugged the ground.  Most of the boat landings I go off of in the winter are fairly steep.  My old hard side camper shack always caught on the landings.  So I figured I would give this set up a try.  The floor will be insulated and I'm using hole covers with sleeves so I'm not to worried about a little height.

(http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k559/rjluke70/Ice%20Fishing%20Shack/DSC00018.jpg)
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: da man cave shack on Jul 13, 2012, 10:02 PM
Looking great, and glad to hear that your hand is ok.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jul 13, 2012, 10:23 PM
Looking great, and glad to hear that your hand is ok.

Thanks, it was a stupid move on my part.  My pinky finger is still pretty black and blue, most of the swelling is all but gone on the rest of the fingers.  You would never believe how important that little finger is when your trying to turn wrenches.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: OldSailor on Jul 14, 2012, 07:21 AM
You ought to hook on to that thing right now with what ever your going to use to pull it most this winter and find some steep driveways and see how she does going up n down, bet you could put that axle inside the spring instead of under, trust me it'll make a world of difference the closer you are to the ice!!, I'd kill to get my camper 6 inches closer to the ice, banking snow sucks, especially when there ain't any!! They make RV wheelie wheels to mount on the back if she drags a little, not very spendy either..

Slick!
I had thought of something similar in using heavy duty casters on the rear just in case you do drag at a landing! ;D You could also rig up some sort of skirting so you don't need to bank snow as much! Just my $.02 worth!! ::)
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: surflizard on Jul 14, 2012, 08:00 AM
Skirts made of metal roof panels hold up well, hang them on 2 or 3 inch 3/8 carrage bolts that stick out thru the side of the shack frame and bolt them in place with fender washers and wing nuts.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: OldSailor on Jul 14, 2012, 08:38 AM
Skirts made of metal roof panels hold up well, hang them on 2 or 3 inch 3/8 carrage bolts that stick out thru the side of the shack frame and bolt them in place with fender washers and wing nuts.
I had been thinking of the corrugated green fiberglass panels sold at home centers ;) Light and should last a very long time ;D
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jul 15, 2012, 07:20 AM
A while back I ordered 5 round hole covers from Fish House Supply and now that I have my frame all redone, I have discovered that I can put another one in.  So I ordered another one, while on the site I came across this antenna so I figured I would give it a try.  I didn't want that poor lonely hole cover shipped to WI all by itself.  Has anyone tried these? If so how did you like them?

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Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: ice dawg on Jul 15, 2012, 08:46 AM
They work fine. Just remember that with the digital signals you have to be within about 30 to 35 miles of the transmitter for decent reception.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: yoslick on Jul 15, 2012, 06:40 PM
They work pretty good, just be sure your TV is digital ready or your gonna need one of them converter boxes...  When you ordered that hole cover did they have them glow in the dark tubes??  Anybody tried them yet??
Bet they would be great about 2 am with a rattle wheel set up!!


Slick!
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jul 16, 2012, 07:52 AM
They work pretty good, just be sure your TV is digital ready or your gonna need one of them converter boxes...  When you ordered that hole cover did they have them glow in the dark tubes??  Anybody tried them yet??
Bet they would be great about 2 am with a rattle wheel set up!!


Slick!

Down the road I will be getting new flat screen for the shack, I believe all the newer tv's are all digital ready.  I didn't see any glow in the dark tubes on fish house supply, but I do like that idea.  I will do a google search and see if I can find some.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rickl1968 on Jul 16, 2012, 08:50 AM
I have the glow in the dark tubes, they look cool when you shut the lights off to go to bed.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jul 21, 2012, 08:09 AM
The only glow in the dark tubes that I have been able to find so far are the short ones.  Anyone know where I could find the longer ones?  I think my nephew would get a kick out them when we get the shack up and running.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jul 24, 2012, 11:57 AM
I picked up my rigid foam and plywood for my floor yesterday, but the project was delayed due to rain.  Oh well, I'm not going to complain.  We need what ever rain we can get after that long dry spell, and besides that it made it cooler outside.  :)  Maybe I can get something done tomorrow.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: pipeboy98 on Aug 04, 2012, 02:03 PM
Hey rjluke...just got back on here after a bit of a summer break.  I like the build and was just wondering what part of Wisconsin you're in?  I'm in somerset, wi and have leftover 3 in. Thick styrofoam insulation from when I built my pop up conversion.  It's used off a reroofing job...but the price is right.  I also have a wood stove I welded up and never used.  I also have some wire left over from all of the short pieces (about 15' long) that I collected off some jobs from the electricians.  If you're close enough I might even be able to lend a hand if you need it!
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 05, 2012, 02:35 AM
Hey rjluke...just got back on here after a bit of a summer break.  I like the build and was just wondering what part of Wisconsin you're in?  I'm in somerset, wi and have leftover 3 in. Thick styrofoam insulation from when I built my pop up conversion.  It's used off a reroofing job...but the price is right.  I also have a wood stove I welded up and never used.  I also have some wire left over from all of the short pieces (about 15' long) that I collected off some jobs from the electricians.  If you're close enough I might even be able to lend a hand if you need it!

I'm in Columbia county.  I think that you and I sent some post back and forth last year in regards to the wood stove, I appreciate the offer, but I opted to stay with the big buddy heater instead of the wood stove.  I might change my mind back after a season or two, but for now I decided the wood stove would take up to much inside room. 
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: da man cave shack on Aug 05, 2012, 01:28 PM
Hay rjluke just wondering if you have any mor pics of your shack comeing along.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 05, 2012, 01:49 PM
Hay rjluke just wondering if you have any mor pics of your shack comeing along.

Hopefully this week I will get something done to it.  I am hoping to get the floor put on, cut out the holes, and maybe carpet it.  I go on vacation starting on the 13 hopefully I can get it framed by then. 
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 08, 2012, 02:45 PM
I got a little bit accomplished today, I had to rip apart yesterdays work.  I tried to put 1 inch rigid foam down first, but I couldn't get a good bite out of the self drilling screws.  So I will probably have to cut the foam and fit it underneath later.  I go on vacation on the 13th.  Hopefully I can get the floor finished, the carpet put down and start framing.

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Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: surflizard on Aug 08, 2012, 04:10 PM
Catch hole covers look great RJ, she coming together !
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: da man cave shack on Aug 08, 2012, 08:12 PM
Looks good and instead of cutting the foam to fit underneath you could spray foam the underside might be easyer.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: pipeboy98 on Aug 08, 2012, 08:13 PM
You won't regret the catch covers.  I put them in mine and am really glad I put the money into it. 
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Lavman on Aug 09, 2012, 06:17 AM
Looking good old boy! With dirty work out of the way you can work like a gentleman now and on pavement, no less!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 09, 2012, 08:53 AM
Looks good and instead of cutting the foam to fit underneath you could spray foam the underside might be easyer.

That was my original idea, but I'm thinking that may take allot of spray foam.  I think that if I cut and place the rigid foam underneath it, I could use the spray foam to hold it in place and cover any gaps.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 09, 2012, 09:01 AM
Catch hole covers look great RJ, she coming together !

Thanks Surf,  The only down fall of the catch covers is that I had to modify my hole placement a little bit.  I didn't figure in the width of the plywood.  I didn't want my first set of holes on a seam where the two panels came together.  It may be a little tight when I get to the point of putting the bunks in the front.  That's half the fun of this project, overcoming the little road blocks that come up.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Raquettedacker on Aug 09, 2012, 09:02 AM
Dont use the paint can size expanding foam...   They sell spray foam in, I think its a two part 2 pound can...  Once on it will last a real long time.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Raquettedacker on Aug 09, 2012, 09:03 AM
Oh and it looks great.... ;D
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 09, 2012, 09:07 AM
You won't regret the catch covers.  I put them in mine and am really glad I put the money into it.

I want this shack to look nice inside and out.  I figure seeing that I have dumped so much cash in it now, I wasn't going to get cheap on the covers.  Besides with where the door is going to be placed its pretty much the first thing one would have to walk over, so it is also a safety issue to have the covers.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 09, 2012, 09:09 AM
Dont use the paint can size expanding foam...   They sell spray foam in, I think its a two part 2 pound can...  Once on it will last a real long time.

I will definitely look into that and check it out.  Thanks
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 09, 2012, 09:16 AM
Looking good old boy! With dirty work out of the way you can work like a gentleman now and on pavement, no less!! ;D ;D

I don't know if the dirty work is done yet, I was one sweaty stinky lad yesterday when I packed up and stopped working.  But on another note, the project is definitely getting more enjoyable and less messy.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: P Meyette on Aug 09, 2012, 12:30 PM
looking good keep it going
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Joedirt34 on Aug 09, 2012, 08:57 PM
Looking good my Friend ! Makes me wish I was building mine all over again (NOT )
  Now I'm just thinking about upgrades !
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 10, 2012, 02:18 AM
Looking good my Friend ! Makes me wish I was building mine all over again (NOT )
  Now I'm just thinking about upgrades !

Thanks Joe, this is definitely going to be the last one I build.  What a pain in the arse.  This one has been fighting me every step.  It should be smooth sailing now.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Joedirt34 on Aug 10, 2012, 05:28 AM
Everything was pretty smooth for me ( didn't paint my frame ) thinking maybe now I should have but some undercoating and I'll be good to go . The roof is where I had my problems put that thing on 4 times !
  Good call on insulating the floor you won't regret it ! 10 below wind howling and you have to crack a window in mine ( wood stove )
   But when your done you will have something that will be built to last !
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 10, 2012, 07:54 AM
Everything was pretty smooth for me ( didn't paint my frame ) thinking maybe now I should have but some undercoating and I'll be good to go . The roof is where I had my problems put that thing on 4 times !
  Good call on insulating the floor you won't regret it ! 10 below wind howling and you have to crack a window in mine ( wood stove )
   But when your done you will have something that will be built to last !

The roof is what I'm worrying about, I'm going to leave that one up to my carpenter buddy.  That is if we can ever get our days off to line up.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: mark4493 on Aug 10, 2012, 12:32 PM
lookin really good. while you are at it, make two. I could use one. jk
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 10, 2012, 04:15 PM
lookin really good. while you are at it, make two. I could use one. jk

One money pit is enough for me ;D
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 15, 2012, 03:58 PM
Got the deck finished today, got it carpeted and installed the hole covers. 
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Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: masoneddie on Aug 15, 2012, 04:17 PM
She's starting to come together rj! Carpet and hole covers look real nice, can't wait to see the walls go up!  :clap: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 15, 2012, 07:15 PM
She's starting to come together rj! Carpet and hole covers look real nice, can't wait to see the walls go up!  :clap: :thumbsup:

Hopefully I can start getting her framed up tomorrow if it doesn't rain.  I still need to attach some 2x4's to the side of the frame so that I have more of a anchor point for the framing. 
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: surflizard on Aug 15, 2012, 07:34 PM
Just a thought RJ, It is lighter and stronger to thru bolt your bottom wall plate directly to the frame, a bolt w/washer every 36" is more then enough to lock down your walls and will not pull out like nails or screws can !

The picture is opposite of what your doing, but the operation is the same.
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l113/lael19533/Antknees%20Ice%20Fishing%20Mayhem/metal%20roofing/wallbolt.jpg)
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 15, 2012, 09:51 PM
Just a thought RJ, It is lighter and stronger to thru bolt your bottom wall plate directly to the frame, a bolt w/washer every 36" is more then enough to lock down your walls and will not pull out like nails or screws can !

The picture is opposite of what your doing, but the operation is the same.
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l113/lael19533/Antknees%20Ice%20Fishing%20Mayhem/metal%20roofing/wallbolt.jpg)

Thats what I wanted to do originally, but I don't know if I have enough of a lip to run bolts threw.  I will have to crawl under it in the morning and see if I have enough.  I will definitively have to get a longer drill bit to get threw both lips.   
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: surflizard on Aug 16, 2012, 08:08 AM
Because you used 3/4" for your floor you don't have to go thru the whole metal frame, if you bolt thru the top flange of the frame and use fender washers, it will be more then strong enough to lock the walls down to the frame ! :thumbsup: If you also run whatever your using for siding down even with the bottom of the metal frame and screw it into the frame, it seals the wall and floor and it Will Not move, plus it helps to prevent the walls from racking during transport !
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 16, 2012, 10:44 AM
Because you used 3/4" for your floor you don't have to go thru the whole metal frame, if you bolt thru the top flange of the frame and use fender washers, it will be more then strong enough to lock the walls down to the frame ! :thumbsup: If you also run whatever your using for siding down even with the bottom of the metal frame and screw it into the frame, it seals the wall and floor and it Will Not move, plus it helps to prevent the walls from racking during transport !

That makes sense, I will add the bolts and washers to my Menards list for tomorrows shopping.  One question, why not do both?  Besides adding to the weight, wouldn't attaching the runners to the outside frame give a more positive grip and make for a stronger platform for the framing?  I'm thinking that the more bite I can get in securing the framing to the base the better, especially with it bouncing around up and down the landings.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: surflizard on Aug 16, 2012, 10:59 AM
What are you using for siding ? I don't believe the added runner will increase the wall anchoring capability enough to justify the added labor of installing it, but if added weight and additional labor are not a factor then by all mean install the runner, it is Your build.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 16, 2012, 11:15 AM
What are you using for siding ? I don't believe the added runner will increase the wall anchoring capability enough to justify the added labor of installing it, but if added weight and additional labor are not a factor then by all mean install the runner, it is Your build.

I'm going to use the same type metal siding that joe used on his build.  I'm leaning toward runner because my plywood is overhanging by 2" and if I go with just the bolts that will only give me a 1 1/2" hold point on the 2x4 framing.  I'm going to have my carpenter buddy stop by after work and see what he thinks, he is the one that put the runner idea in my head.  I know that if we frame it with 2X 4's its going to get heavy real fast.  I'm just worried about everything shaking loose bouncing around on the ice and landings.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: surflizard on Aug 16, 2012, 11:41 AM
My bad, I thought you ran your plywood flush like we did on Joes floor.That was also Joes biggest concern too. But once the 2x2 walls were tied together and the metal roof panel siding was installed and screwed to the frame with self tapping screws, it does not move Period ! Full 2x4 walls are really not needed because once the metal siding is screwed off to the frame and as in Joes build, the 1/4 luan plywood was installed inside to cover the insulation, it is Extremely Rugged and Lightweight ! With it fully loaded with all of the supplies, wood stove and over 100 lbs of firewood, Joe can wheel his house around easily by himself !
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Lavman on Aug 16, 2012, 01:08 PM
I would advocate making the connection of the walls to the framework as solid as possible. If you frame with KD lumber instead of PT the weight is not going to be a real issue and the benefit of a rock solid connection will outweigh (get it?) any weight concerns.
EDIT: I just looked at your pictures again, looks like you are framing with PT. Are you using this for the wall studs too?

I am a little concerned about the carpet being pinched under the sill plate of the walls. This is not a good detail since it will allow water to wick out under the sill plate and lead to rot. A better detail would be to cut the carpet back to the sill plate after the sill is installed, using clear silicone caulk the sill plate to the plywood to keep water out.

What did you use for plywood deck? Advantech perhaps? Advantech will not delaminate when exposed to water like regular plywood will.

Another concern about the carpet over regular CDX or AC or similar plywoods is that these types of plywood will delaminate when wetted unless they are sealed up really well with something like Thompsons Water Seal or a good exterior grade oil based paint.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 16, 2012, 06:52 PM
My bad, I thought you ran your plywood flush like we did on Joes floor.That was also Joes biggest concern too. But once the 2x2 walls were tied together and the metal roof panel siding was installed and screwed to the frame with self tapping screws, it does not move Period ! Full 2x4 walls are really not needed because once the metal siding is screwed off to the frame and as in Joes build, the 1/4 luan plywood was installed inside to cover the insulation, it is Extremely Rugged and Lightweight ! With it fully loaded with all of the supplies, wood stove and over 100 lbs of firewood, Joe can wheel his house around easily by himself !

I looked at again this morning, I do have 1 1/2" of lip to tie into.  I am going to the hardware store in the morning and get the bolts and washers.  I want to make sure this thing is not coming apart.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 16, 2012, 07:01 PM
I would advocate making the connection of the walls to the framework as solid as possible. If you frame with KD lumber instead of PT the weight is not going to be a real issue and the benefit of a rock solid connection will outweigh (get it?) any weight concerns.
EDIT: I just looked at your pictures again, looks like you are framing with PT. Are you using this for the wall studs too?

I am a little con"erned about the carpet being pinched under the sill plate of the walls. This is not a good detail since it will allow water to wick out under the sill plate and lead to rot. A better detail would be to cut the carpet back to the sill plate after the sill is installed, using clear silicone caulk the sill plate to the plywood to keep water out.

What did you use for plywood deck? Advantech perhaps? Advantech will not delaminate when exposed to water like regular plywood will.

Another concern about the carpet over regular CDX or AC or similar plywoods is that these types of plywood will delaminate when wetted unless they are sealed up really well with something like Thompsons Water Seal or a good exterior grade oil based paint.

The deck is 3/4" pressure treated plywood rated for submerged fresh water use and I am using the pressure treated 2x4's in the framing.  The carpet is indoor/outdoor carpet, the cheap stuff from Menards.  After the siding gets put on it will have the bottom trimmed.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 16, 2012, 07:13 PM
Didn't get much done today due to rain.  I did manage to enclose one wheel well and started to mark out my framing and windows on one of the long walls.

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Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 17, 2012, 04:40 PM
One wall framed.  Ran out of wood, need to hit the lumber yard tomorrow morning.
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Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: surflizard on Aug 17, 2012, 06:15 PM
Wow !!  Is that an 8' wall ?
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: OldSailor on Aug 17, 2012, 06:20 PM
Wow !!  Is that an 8' wall ?
Looks like he plans on ice fishing wearing a 10 gallon hat!!! ::)
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 17, 2012, 07:45 PM
Wow !!  Is that an 8' wall ?

Good guess, its 7' 6"  had to go a little bit on the high side to fit the 80" door in.  I hope it fits under the over pass.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: surflizard on Aug 17, 2012, 07:53 PM
Just curious, what style roof are you going with ?
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 17, 2012, 07:55 PM
Looks like he plans on ice fishing wearing a 10 gallon hat!!! ::)

I wont be wearing a 10 gallon hat, but I will be wearing this one
(http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k559/rjluke70/Facebook/Wall%20Photos/523975_277202455702453_964879071_n.jpg)
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 17, 2012, 07:58 PM
Just curious, what style roof are you going with ?

not sure of the technical carpenter lingo as far as pitch, but it will be just a slight pitch, just enough for the rain and snow to slid off.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: mark4493 on Aug 17, 2012, 09:23 PM
lookin good
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: surflizard on Aug 18, 2012, 07:20 AM
Maybe a shed roof like Joes ?
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: HIMO on Aug 18, 2012, 08:22 AM
Maybe a shed roof like Joes ?

sounds to me he wants his to be different than anyone else's shack.also a slant roof will be alot easier to do.

                                                                                    HIMO
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 18, 2012, 10:29 AM
This is more or less what I am going for on the roof.  This picture was posted by garland on another post.  Just enough of a peak and slope for the snow to slide off from.
(http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k559/rjluke70/Ice%20Fishing%20Shack/garland.jpg)
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: surflizard on Aug 18, 2012, 10:42 AM
Oh okay, a gable roof ! She's gonna be a big one, maybe call it Hotel California ! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 18, 2012, 01:12 PM
Oh okay, a gable roof ! She's gonna be a big one, maybe call it Hotel California ! :thumbsup:

yeah, yeah a gable roof that the term I was looking for,  remember folks not a carpenter, but if you want a solid oak rocking horse, that I can do.  As for as the name, I'm thinking more along the lines of "Valhalla"
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Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: surflizard on Aug 18, 2012, 03:17 PM
Hall of the Gods will work ! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 18, 2012, 03:26 PM
Hall of the Gods will work ! :thumbsup:

I just figured with all the blood, sweat and tears and the long battle this thing has become that the name was fitting.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: surflizard on Aug 18, 2012, 03:47 PM
It can seem overwhelming at times, but trust me, the first time you pull a fish up outta the hole, you will kick yourself for not doing it sooner ! ;)2 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 18, 2012, 09:04 PM
The front wall is framed.
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Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Joedirt34 on Aug 18, 2012, 09:13 PM
Looking good ! But heavy ! What will you be using to haul it out with ?
Don't get me wrong I like it bigger is always better in my book !
Also foot note nice pellet stove ! Put one in a few years back and love it !
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 18, 2012, 09:23 PM
Looking good ! But heavy ! What will you be using to haul it out with ?
Don't get me wrong I like it bigger is always better in my book !
Also foot note nice pellet stove ! Put one in a few years back and love it !

Going to use my trusty Jeep Grand Cherokee
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: masoneddie on Aug 19, 2012, 04:48 AM
Looking good RJ, can't wait to see the framing complete. Thanks for sharing your build with us!
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 19, 2012, 03:15 PM
My carpenter buddy came over and knocked out this wall for me.  He makes this stuff look easy, it would have taken me a day and a half to do this.  Ran out of lumber again, will have to wait till next week to frame the last wall.  Until then I will get the walls that are done bolted to the frame and crawl under it and fit and glue the foam insulation to the bottom of the floor.  Overall I am happy with the outcome.  My framing matched up perfectly to the framed walls of the professional.  Might have to trade off my jeep and get a 3/4 truck to haul this out.

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Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: yoslick on Aug 19, 2012, 09:03 PM
Those windows seem awful high for watching tip ups, sure them wall arn't upside down??

Slick!
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 19, 2012, 10:36 PM
Those windows seem awful high for watching tip ups, sure them wall arn't upside down??

Slick!

Exactly where I wanted them
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: MEMAGGIENCOMET on Aug 19, 2012, 10:52 PM
Are you using pressure treated wood for you frame? I think it is going to weigh a lot but built like a tank.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 20, 2012, 12:50 PM
Nice framing rjluke!
It looks great!


Just speaking from experience, most of the time your gonna be sitting down. So looking throught the windows at lines outside will mean that you would be standing up or getting up and down alot.
I went with alot of windows and big ones too.....the best thing I did was to put two long windows in the corners just above the floor.
(http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx214/rickl1968/Ice%20Hut%20Pictures/105_9323.jpg)
It makes a huge difference when watching lines outside and letting in light.

I like those long windows.  I was playing with the idea of the windows being lower.  Right now with the current set up they are 4' from the floor.  I didn't want it to be too easy for someone to be looking in.  By the time I put the seating in a person my height may have to stretch a little to look out from a seated position.  I have another high tech redneck item going in that will help with the observation of the tips ups.  Last year I installed a 4 camera dvr system on my jeep when we were having issues of a co-working slashing tires where I work.  I have that set up to run on a deep cycle battery.  I'm going to pull that out and mount it on the shack when the siding gets put on.  Nice little infrared system that will also be nice to see who is approaching the shack at night.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 20, 2012, 01:01 PM
Are you using pressure treated wood for you frame? I think it is going to weigh a lot but built like a tank.

Yes I used pressure treated,  I was thinking that it would hold up better in the damp and wet conditions, but my carpenter buddy re-educated me on that,  He told me it was good for keeping termites out and that was about it.  Like I said before, I'm not a carpenter and yes it appears that I need adult supervision when shopping for lumber  ;D.  So needless to say, I did pay the extra amount for the pressure treated when I didn't have to.  Live and learn, the way I look at it, it's only money and I will make more next week.  I was actually pretty surprised that with all the weight on it so far, my suspension has barely moved, so it was probably a good thing that I replaced the original axle and springs with a more heavy duty set up.   
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Lavman on Aug 20, 2012, 01:39 PM
Coming along real nice RJ!
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: da man cave shack on Aug 20, 2012, 02:52 PM
lookin good
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Snopro on Aug 20, 2012, 04:31 PM
I have built 2 on pop up camper frames and framed and closed them in in aluminum. The same kind of skin that all the major fish house builders use. The cost was reasonable.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 21, 2012, 12:40 AM
I have built 2 on pop up camper frames and framed and closed them in in aluminum. The same kind of skin that all the major fish house builders use. The cost was reasonable.

If you have pictures of your pop up camper frame builds, I would love to see them.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: da man cave shack on Aug 26, 2012, 06:18 PM
Any new pics?
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 27, 2012, 09:24 AM
Any new pics?

I work week ends, just got done for the week and hauled home another load of lumber from Menards.  Hopefully I can con my carpenter buddy to come over after work in the next couple days while I'm off.  If so, then we can get the last wall and roof framed.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: bart on Aug 27, 2012, 10:12 AM
Nice framing rjluke!
It looks great!


Just speaking from experience, most of the time your gonna be sitting down. So looking throught the windows at lines outside will mean that you would be standing up or getting up and down alot.
I went with alot of windows and big ones too.....the best thing I did was to put two long windows in the corners just above the floor.
(http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx214/rickl1968/Ice%20Hut%20Pictures/105_9323.jpg)
It makes a huge difference when watching lines outside and letting in light.



Fishing and Football on the tube, I'd never leave the ice! Wait whats the kitchen look like... ;D


rickl1968 does have a point, standing up or getting up and down alot.


Pressure treated wood, I thought not recommended for interior, toxic? Not knocking the shanty, looks top rate workmanship all the way and an awesome job. Just wondering on the pressure treated wood?

Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 27, 2012, 11:41 AM


Fishing and Football on the tube, I'd never leave the ice! Wait whats the kitchen look like... ;D


rickl1968 does have a point, standing up or getting up and down alot.


Pressure treated wood, I thought not recommended for interior, toxic? Not knocking the shanty, looks top rate workmanship all the way and an awesome job. Just wondering on the pressure treated wood?

You can use pressure treated for anything, the only exception is it cant be or shouldn't be used for anything that has to do with food or food prep.   I only used the pressure treated because I thought it would be good for the damp/wet conditions, but my carpenter buddy informed me it was over kill and not needed.  They were paid for, so we used them.  Just another example on why I should have adult supervision when shopping at Menards.  As for the windows, they are 4' from the floor.  By the time I put the seating or benches in they should be close to being right on.  Someone shorter than me may have to stretch a bit to look out of them from a seated position.  I didn't want the windows too low, I want to keep the less than honest folks from being able to look in.(or I may feel the need to fish in my underwear if it gets too warm in there) But then again, tough titty, I'm building it for my comfort.  If my fishing buddies don't like it, they can sit on their buckets on the ice.  From the ground to the floor of the shack is 22" so the windows appear to be higher than they really are.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 27, 2012, 11:54 AM
The updated 3d plan
http://pl.an/zblba4
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: OldSailor on Aug 27, 2012, 01:00 PM
The updated 3d plan
http://pl.an/zblba4
Whoever is sitting by the head of the guy in the bunk better not have been eating any of my bean soup recipe, nor the chili!! :sick: :woot: :thumbsup: :clap: ;)2 :bow: :whistle: :nono: :callcops: :icefish:  But I love the build, and yes you could use some adult supervision at times!!  ;)
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: da man cave shack on Aug 27, 2012, 05:40 PM
That floor planer is really cool. especialy in 3D mode. and nice plan.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: bart on Aug 27, 2012, 05:57 PM
rjluke70, cool! Thanks for posting your progress, it's great to follow. Thanks again!
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Post by: Joedirt34 on Aug 27, 2012, 08:26 PM
Looking great !
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Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 29, 2012, 08:18 PM
An the last wall is framed and the window is in.  Back to work tomorrow night, next week insulate the floor and run the bolts into the frame.  Hopefully I can get the roof framed.
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Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: da man cave shack on Aug 29, 2012, 10:16 PM
Awsome, looks so well built I have a name suggestion "THE TANK".
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Post by: icyveins on Aug 29, 2012, 10:41 PM
hope you dont plan on using that "sit and fish" bucket.... :roflmao:  you might have a sore a$$!
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Post by: BackCountry Kyle on Aug 30, 2012, 12:07 AM
went with the cheap stuff on the last wall ehh  ;) Good work man! It looks great. Thanks for the step-by-step too. Hope I can do this someday!!!!  :tipup:
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Post by: shake on Aug 30, 2012, 08:37 AM
looks great, really coming together now...hard work will pay off when you get it on the ice....
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Post by: Lavman on Aug 30, 2012, 09:03 AM
Looking good! Thanks for the updates, really nice build. I think you did the right thing switching to the kiln dried 2x4's.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 30, 2012, 10:23 AM
hope you dont plan on using that "sit and fish" bucket.... :roflmao:  you might have a sore a$$!

That poor bucket didn't fare to well with this build, it took its share of abuse.  As for sitting on any bucket, they all make my a$$ sore.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 30, 2012, 10:26 AM
Awsome, looks so well built I have a name suggestion "THE TANK".

Got the name all covered.  I'm calling her "Valhalla"
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 30, 2012, 10:31 AM
Looking good! Thanks for the updates, really nice build. I think you did the right thing switching to the kiln dried 2x4's.

Live and learn, I should have used them from the start.  The whole process has been a learning experience, but the way I look at it, if you don't learn something new everyday, you might as well stay in bed.
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Post by: rjluke70 on Aug 30, 2012, 10:47 AM
went with the cheap stuff on the last wall ehh  ;) Good work man! It looks great. Thanks for the step-by-step too. Hope I can do this someday!!!!  :tipup:

Thanks Kirkwood, I would say a little cheaper than the pressure treated, but still didn't make it out of Menards with out spending $150.00 this week.  Those folks are staring to know me by my first name.  If you ever do build one, don't bother trying to come up with a budget for the build.  I blew my planned budget in the first three weeks.  Originally I was just going to build up on the campers base and use the old roof.  The further I got into the more it got ripped apart due to water rot, bugs and decay.  I have found out that around every corner is a new and unplanned area to dump cash.  But then again I went allot more heavy duty then most folks would have done or needed.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: icyveins on Aug 30, 2012, 05:57 PM
That poor bucket didn't fare to well with this build, it took its share of abuse.  As for sitting on any bucket, they all make my a$$ sore.

maybe that one could be form fitted to your backside! might site a little better than a flat one!  :thumbsup:    :laugh:
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Post by: wileyc3 on Sep 05, 2012, 07:51 AM
Nice build so far, keep the pics comin, cant wait to see the finnished product.
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Post by: rjluke70 on Sep 05, 2012, 06:56 PM
I got a good start on framing the roof on my days off.  Hopefully next week I can get more accomplished.
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Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: shake on Sep 05, 2012, 07:49 PM
I got a good start on framing the roof on my days off.  Hopefully next week I can get more accomplished.

Looking good rjluke, really coming along. Cool to see the progress.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: blackmer826 on Sep 06, 2012, 10:14 AM
man that looks nice, but I would be worried about weight issues. Very well built but I feel you will have issues with the weight and hauling it off/on the ice. maybe you wont.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Lavman on Sep 07, 2012, 06:37 AM
2x6 rafters are more than adequate for the span. Based on the overhang you have at the eaves and since the roof may see some high speeds while trailering to the lake you may want to consider these Simpson H1 Hurricane Clips. They are not expensive ($0.66 each) and would be cheap insurance to make sure the roof stays well connected to the walls. I am sure Menards will have these:

http://www.dhcsupplies.com/store/p/2571-Simpson-Strong-Tie-H1-Hurricane-Clip.html

http://www.dhcsupplies.com/images/simpson/simpson_h1.jpg

Looking good RJ!! Thanks for sharing the progress photos.
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Post by: BojiHawk on Sep 07, 2012, 07:47 AM
Nice rig man...doing it very sturdy.  I would probably gusset the tongue-side rafters to the top plates due to winds that could excede 100 mph (puling @ 60 mph with a 40 mph head wind).  I would call it "The Chalet"...looks like it's snow-load rated my good man!!  Nice framing work.  If you need someone to test if for 3-4 weeks in Dec....I'm your man!  :-)
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Sep 07, 2012, 08:05 AM
2x6 rafters are more than adequate for the span. Based on the overhang you have at the eaves and since the roof may see some high speeds while trailering to the lake you may want to consider these Simpson H1 Hurricane Clips. They are not expensive ($0.66 each) and would be cheap insurance to make sure the roof stays well connected to the walls. I am sure Menards will have these:

http://www.dhcsupplies.com/store/p/2571-Simpson-Strong-Tie-H1-Hurricane-Clip.html

http://www.dhcsupplies.com/images/simpson/simpson_h1.jpg

Looking good RJ!! Thanks for sharing the progress photos.


I got them on, they are on the inside, but I was thinking about putting another set on the outside just for good measure.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Sep 07, 2012, 08:08 AM
man that looks nice, but I would be worried about weight issues. Very well built but I feel you will have issues with the weight and hauling it off/on the ice. maybe you wont.

Worst case, I may have to towing company with a flat bed to get it to the lake and back.  I'm just hoping I don't blow up my jeep.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Sep 07, 2012, 08:12 AM
I am thinking it's time to retire the frabril bucket that is supporting the back end.  Going to order 4 scissor jacks to level her and keep it stabilized.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Lavman on Sep 07, 2012, 02:31 PM

I got them on, they are on the inside, but I was thinking about putting another set on the outside just for good measure.

One set will do. The uplift load rating is pretty high for these. I assume you used the joist hanger nails and filled all the holes. You should be good to go.
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Post by: bart on Sep 07, 2012, 02:37 PM
Looking good! Quality all the way!
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Post by: BackCountry Kyle on Sep 08, 2012, 12:22 AM
How far do you have to go to get to the lake(s) you fish? And how will you insulate it?

Looks good man keep on pluggin away! :icefish:
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Sep 08, 2012, 08:05 AM
How far do you have to go to get to the lake(s) you fish? And how will you insulate it?

Looks good man keep on pluggin away! :icefish:

I have a lake as close as 5 miles, and I have been known to go to lakes 100 miles away.  Will I drag this thing 100 miles away, NO.  Where ever I do take it, I do plan on using a buddy or two with radios as spotters driving in front of me and behind me.  As for insulation, I am planning on 2" rigid foam through out the entire shack, except for the floor.  I am putting 1" under the floor for starters and if I need more I will add to it later.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: da man cave shack on Sep 08, 2012, 10:10 AM
rjluke I woldnt be to worried about the wait on the jeep I haul My shack that weighs 2600 lbs with a 99 Jeep grand cherokee and it pulls just fine It just doesnt like to help my mpg (usually between 7 to 9 when hauling the shack). So I agree with you on not want to pull it 100 miles. And you are right on most of the landings around us are very shanty freindly and if you need help just about any one on the lake will be more than willing to help. Good luck and Any more pics?
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Post by: rjluke70 on Sep 08, 2012, 07:10 PM
rjluke I woldnt be to worried about the wait on the jeep I haul My shack that weighs 2600 lbs with a 99 Jeep grand cherokee and it pulls just fine It just doesnt like to help my mpg (usually between 7 to 9 when hauling the shack). So I agree with you on not want to pull it 100 miles. And you are right on most of the landings around us are very shanty freindly and if you need help just about any one on the lake will be more than willing to help. Good luck and Any more pics?

I work weekends, and do most of my shanty work on my days off.  Mon, tue & wed.  Depending in the weather, I should have more done this week with pictures to follow.  Ordered my scissor jacks so when they arrive they will get installed.  Other than that not much planned for it on the next set of days off except to put some cross members on the roofing and other places on the shack to get it ready for the metal siding.  I still need to get under it and install the insulation and run the bolts into the frame.
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Post by: da man cave shack on Sep 12, 2012, 09:52 PM
Any progress pics?
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Post by: rjluke70 on Sep 13, 2012, 12:22 AM
Any progress pics?
No new pictures.  I got the bolts ran into the frame and did some work on the cross members on the trusses.  My scissor jacks showed up too late in the day to install.  I will get them put on next week.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: OldSailor on Sep 24, 2012, 12:50 PM
No new pictures.  I got the bolts ran into the frame and did some work on the cross members on the trusses.  My scissor jacks showed up too late in the day to install.  I will get them put on next week.
How's the shack comming along?? We haven't seen an update in awhile!! Run into problems, or just taking a break?? ;) ;D
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: da man cave shack on Sep 24, 2012, 01:48 PM
How's the shack comming along?? We haven't seen an update in awhile!! Run into problems, or just taking a break?? ;) ;D
X2
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: mark4493 on Sep 24, 2012, 03:14 PM
we are all soooooo anxious
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Post by: rjluke70 on Sep 24, 2012, 10:44 PM
Work, Weather, Bow Hunting, not enough hours in the week.  Hopefully more pictures tomorrow night. ;D
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Post by: rjluke70 on Sep 25, 2012, 05:51 PM
Made a little head way this week.  The roof is mostly framed, a little more to go and hopefully next Monday if I can stay up long enough after work I will go and get the metal sheeting for the roof and walls.  Can't wait to start getting her enclosed.  Then I can start trying to figure out where to place my electrical.
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Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Bout-Time on Sep 25, 2012, 06:35 PM
Holy overweight load Batman!

Lookin good and sturdy Luke!
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Joedirt34 on Sep 25, 2012, 07:39 PM
I like it !! Hope you have the ice for it ! What are you figuring for weight when it's all done with gear and a finished inside ? Don't forget people ! Not trying to be negative just want to know what your figuring  . I hope with all your hard work we are all off base !
  I know weight adds up fast !
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: DBK81 on Sep 25, 2012, 08:30 PM
I like it !! Hope you have the ice for it ! What are you figuring for weight when it's all done with gear and a finished inside ? Don't forget people ! Not trying to be negative just want to know what your figuring  . I hope with all your hard work we are all off base !
  I know weight adds up fast !

Why are people making such a stink about weight? I mean it's never going to weigh more even loaded up with people than the truck that needs to pull it out on the ice. 15+ inches of ice and who really cares, shack looks good, the bigger the better I say!



Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: da man cave shack on Sep 25, 2012, 08:42 PM
Oh yay I LIKE PICTURES! And dont worry about the weight to much. My shack weighs 2600lb and with a fully loaded jeep pulling it I got it out on just a little over 9" inches last year. It was scetchy but I made it on and off. But I like the progress you have got.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: mark4493 on Sep 25, 2012, 08:51 PM
looks awesome
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Joedirt34 on Sep 25, 2012, 08:56 PM
Why are people making such a stink about weight? I mean it's never going to weigh more even loaded up with people than the truck that needs to pull it out on the ice. 15+ inches of ice and who really cares, shack looks good, the bigger the better I say!
 I'm no expert ! I just know when I was building mine all I heard was watch the weight ! I'm at about 850-900 with mine and that's big for around here ! I'm not trying to be negative or a know it all ! I'm just amazed by it more than anything ! I want it to go smooth for him ! Just gives me hope of going bigger ! It's a great build and I love watching them come together !
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Sep 25, 2012, 09:05 PM
Not sure of the weight, buts she will be a heavy pig.  I have seen the big ice castle fish houses and 20 plus foot RV's on lakes by me, so I'm thinking that even with my 2x4 construction and everything thats going in it I doubt it will weigh as much as those.  I wouldn't try to put it on anything less than 12 inches of solid ice.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Joedirt34 on Sep 25, 2012, 09:09 PM
Rjluke,
  How are you planning to finish off the inside ? I know it never goes as planned ! But when is the goal to be ready ! Because your never done !!
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Sep 25, 2012, 09:24 PM
Rjluke,
  How are you planning to finish off the inside ? I know it never goes as planned ! But when is the goal to be ready ! Because your never done !!
I'm going for the rustic look.  Going to use either tongue and grove cedar or knotty pine.  Bunks in the front, kitchen in the back.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: da man cave shack on Sep 25, 2012, 09:27 PM
rjluke maybe we will have to hook up some time this winter for some fishing fun and so i can see this beast you are building sound AWSOME!
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Joedirt34 on Sep 25, 2012, 09:34 PM
Sounds nice like a cabin on the lake ! Do you get to spend a fair amount of time out ? Will it be like a winter home ?
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Sep 25, 2012, 09:35 PM
rjluke maybe we will have to hook up some time this winter for some fishing fun and so i can see this beast you are building sound AWSOME!
It will be sided by winter, I don't think it will be close to being 100% complete by this season.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Sep 25, 2012, 09:37 PM
Sounds nice like a cabin on the lake ! Do you get to spend a fair amount of time out ? Will it be like a winter home ?

I'm have 3 days off each week and I usually toss in a vacation day in here and there for extended stays.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: mark4493 on Sep 26, 2012, 08:31 PM
I like the interior choice
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Post by: rjluke70 on Oct 02, 2012, 05:53 PM
Finally finished framing the roof and got the first couple sheet on.  My carpenter buddy is stopping over tomorrow to give me a hand.  Perfect timing, I hate ladders and climbing on the roof.  He's like a monkey.  I'll stay on the ground and cut the sheets while he's up there.  ;D
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Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: da man cave shack on Oct 02, 2012, 07:29 PM
Man that looks good. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: hickgtx600f4 on Oct 02, 2012, 07:35 PM
Wow.. i don't think the wind will flop that :o may need an extra axle to keep the frame off the ground.  ;D
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: BackCountry Kyle on Oct 02, 2012, 10:20 PM
sweet :tipup:... I think your ladder is set up backwards though. May make it easier to climb the other way. Safety is no accident my dad says!
I like the windows on the sides with the channel formed in... that should make it a bit quicker to side. I know everyone keeps bringing up wieght... I think it will be fine after the new axle and springs you put in! May be the best move you made. :) What part of Wisco you located? I have some fam out there. Stepdad has a home exterior business, might be able to hook you up with some discount siding, soffit, and facia if color doesn't matter.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Joedirt34 on Oct 03, 2012, 06:36 AM
Looks great ! I get you about the roof ! Ladders and me don't mix !
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Post by: rjluke70 on Oct 03, 2012, 10:08 AM
Looks great ! I get you about the roof ! Ladders and me don't mix !
My carpenter buddy thinks it's funny, that guy is like a monkey and he has no fear of heights like I do.  He keeps bringing up that I use a climbing tree stand for bow hunting.  That still makes my butt hole pucker.  I might go up a tree 25 or so feet, but my knees are still shaking, but at least there I'm wearing a safety vest and tied to the tree.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: maineduckhunter on Oct 03, 2012, 10:11 AM
How are you going to get that thing on the lake!! :o  Looks REALLY heavy!!!  :blink:
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Oct 03, 2012, 04:54 PM
Roof is on and we got a door on her.  Another trip to Menard's next Monday for trim pieces and hopefully I can get the siding on her next week.
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Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: da man cave shack on Oct 03, 2012, 05:00 PM
Wow thats really comeing along.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: maineduckhunter on Oct 04, 2012, 09:11 AM
AHHH I see now.....nice trailer!! Must not get much snow on the lake you fish ???
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Oct 04, 2012, 10:16 AM
AHHH I see now.....nice trailer!! Must not get much snow on the lake you fish ???
It. depends on the year, I didn't even have much ice last year.  I plan on either making or buying a drive on type ski for it down the line. 
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Lavman on Oct 04, 2012, 03:06 PM
Does the door swing in or out? I can tell for sure in the picture.

Swinging in would be best in case it goes through the ice with you in it, the door would be forced open and you can escape easier.

Looking good!! :tipup:
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Oct 04, 2012, 03:43 PM
Does the door swing in or out? I can tell for sure in the picture.

Swinging in would be best in case it goes through the ice with you in it, the door would be forced open and you can escape easier.

Looking good!! :tipup:

It swings out, if I had it swing in it would have swung over a couple of the whole covers.  I would hate to have to beat someone for whipping he door open and braking a jig pole or making me loose that monster fish.  Besides with all the work and cash I have stuck into this thing, If it goes, I'm going down with the ship.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: da man cave shack on Oct 09, 2012, 04:56 PM
Any progress? I am so anctious to see. ;D
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: bpiatt on Oct 10, 2012, 04:35 PM
You are doing an outstanding job my friend. I wish I had the time and finances to take on a project like this. I love that your building it like a tank, your worries end once its on the ice. Some of the lighter shelters ive seen have issues fending off mother nature, yours most certainly wont. Here I am struggling to deck out my flip over like I want, I couldnt imagine gutting and entire pop up and rebuilding on its frame. Youve got my respect.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Oct 10, 2012, 07:28 PM
Not much new to report, I did manage to put the cross members on most of the framing.  Trying to get it ready so that we can put on the metal siding.  Was hoping to get some of the siding on today, but lost a day of work yesterday due to rain.
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Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Oct 10, 2012, 07:40 PM
You are doing an outstanding job my friend. I wish I had the time and finances to take on a project like this. I love that your building it like a tank, your worries end once its on the ice. Some of the lighter shelters ive seen have issues fending off mother nature, yours most certainly wont. Here I am struggling to deck out my flip over like I want, I couldnt imagine gutting and entire pop up and rebuilding on its frame. Youve got my respect.

Thanks bpiatt,  It is definitely very time consuming, and expensive.  I'm a single guy, so when the bills get paid anything left over goes to the building fund.  This project has definitely taken on a life of its own, originally it was going to be a quick build off the old campers base.  I don't foresee this being complete until next season. 
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: mark4493 on Oct 16, 2012, 09:54 AM
very nice
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: vexvision on Oct 17, 2012, 06:41 AM
Wowza. Very nice shack my man. That will be the "ICE BEAST" in my book. At the rate your going, it might out weigh the Jeep ;D ;D ;D. Good work! I copyrighted the name "ICE BEAST"! I will lease the name to you if you want ;)
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Bout-Time on Oct 19, 2012, 05:24 PM
Why are people making such a stink about weight? I mean it's never going to weigh more even loaded up with people than the truck that needs to pull it out on the ice. 15+ inches of ice and who really cares, shack looks good, the bigger the better I say!





What do you do with it till theres 15" of ice though?

The reason to keep track of the weight (and keep the weight down) is so you can get it out on the lake sooner. Longer season of fishing in comfort is always a plus to me.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Oct 20, 2012, 03:21 PM
What do you do with it till theres 15" of ice though?

The reason to keep track of the weight (and keep the weight down) is so you can get it out on the lake sooner. Longer season of fishing in comfort is always a plus to me.

Until there is enough ice I will use my Otter portable.  Either way, I'm icefishing.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Oct 20, 2012, 03:27 PM
Finally got a second set of hands to help start putting some siding on.  My screw line is a little off, but after working 10 hours and coming home and working a few more hours I could hardly see straight.  At least I have one wall partially sided for now.
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Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Bout-Time on Oct 20, 2012, 04:37 PM
For future ease on the other walls, snap a chalk line where you need your screws.

Boom, straight line of screws that all hit home.

Lookin good though Luke.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Bout-Time on Oct 20, 2012, 04:39 PM
Until there is enough ice I will use my Otter portable.  Either way, I'm icefishing.

Ahhh, well there you go!
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Oct 20, 2012, 10:40 PM
For future ease on the other walls, snap a chalk line where you need your screws.

Boom, straight line of screws that all hit home.

Lookin good though Luke.

Yeah, that was an after thought.  I was a little over tired and rushed for time.  I only had a second par of hands for brief moment of time.  I'm not really happy with my rush job, but it will work.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: disturbed229 on Nov 03, 2012, 08:45 AM
Rjluke70 where from in Wisconsin ?im in Antigo wi which is north central ...
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Nov 03, 2012, 11:57 AM
Rjluke70 where from in Wisconsin ?im in Antigo wi which is north central ...

I'm in Columbia County
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Quantumn on Nov 03, 2012, 12:09 PM
Hard to see a crooked line of screws from the inside, lol. Nothing a good brewhaha wouldn't fix as well. :)
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: da man cave shack on Nov 14, 2012, 03:30 PM
Any Progress?
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Nov 15, 2012, 09:27 AM
Any Progress?

Still wrestling with hanging the outside pannels.  Hopefully my buddy can stop by this week end and give me a hand.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: cstolp on Nov 15, 2012, 12:32 PM
Still wrestling with hanging the outside pannels.  Hopefully my buddy can stop by this week end and give me a hand.

No helpy no fishy!
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Lavman on Nov 16, 2012, 01:11 PM
You could screw on a ledger board and pre-drill all the siding panels then set siding panel up on ledger, screw in place. Move to next panel and so on. Remove ledger when done? I hate being at the mercy of other people's schedules. Good luck, it is getting there!
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: TrackerG on Nov 16, 2012, 02:03 PM
Hehe If I waited for help on most of my projects Id never get anything done. a couple tricks to help ....precut ur sheeting....measure and predrill a couple holes at about chest height  or where its easiest to reach). put a thin strip of metal or something between the 2x4 and trailer to set bottom of siding sheet on. The way that siding overlaps..once you get one screw in it should free your hands up.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Nov 18, 2012, 08:50 AM
This is where I am at now, not as far as I would like, but just not enough hours in the week. Did manage to get the roof cap on and a little more siding up.  Hopefully more after this week.
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Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: fishslayerjay on Nov 20, 2012, 02:57 PM
looks great.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: OldSailor on Nov 24, 2012, 11:06 AM
My computer is down, so I'm at the library checking my email and keeping up on IS!! Hope you had a great Thanksgiving!! Now get back to work on the shack!!! :woot: ;)2 :whistle: :icefish:
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Quantumn on Nov 24, 2012, 12:43 PM
Looking real good and should be solid as a sherman tank. Keep up the great work and pics coming.  :icefish:
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Dec 05, 2012, 05:54 PM
Finally had some time to work on the shack.  One more sheet to cut and hang then I can caulk her up and hang all the trim pieces.
(http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k559/rjluke70/Ice%20Fishing%20Shack/DSC00349.jpg)
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Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Lavman on Dec 06, 2012, 06:54 AM
Hey rjluke!! Nice to see the progress pics, you may get to fish out of it this season, looks like it is coming along. Great build! :tipup:
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: da man cave shack on Dec 06, 2012, 01:41 PM
That looks great,  :thumbsup: If we get some ice this year we will definatly have to meet up out on the hard water with our shacks.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Dec 06, 2012, 03:46 PM
That looks great,  :thumbsup: If we get some ice this year we will definatly have to meet up out on the hard water with our shacks.
It's not looking very promising right now, the last two days I was working on my shack wearing a t-shirt.  I don't see my shack being completely done till next season.  :'(  I did pick up a bunch of insulation today, so as soon as I get the outside trimmed out, I can start on the inside.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Dec 06, 2012, 04:18 PM
Got the last piece of siding put on today.  Made a trip to Menard's and picked up some trim pieces and drip edge and some two inch foam insulation.  Got a start on putting on the trim.  Hopefully by next Tuesday I can get the outside buttoned up and start insulating the inside.
(http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k559/rjluke70/Ice%20Fishing%20Shack/DSC00357.jpg)
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Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: da man cave shack on Dec 06, 2012, 05:38 PM
If we get enough ice it will atl least be a nice shelter even if it is not finished.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Dec 07, 2012, 02:31 PM
If we get enough ice it will atl least be a nice shelter even if it is not finished.

The plan for now is save up some more cash and replenish the build fund.  I want to get some solar panels on the roof to recharge the battery bank before I get to far with the interior.  I still have to figure out where I'm going to put the outlets and switches for everything.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Dec 07, 2012, 02:32 PM
Looking real good and should be solid as a sherman tank. Keep up the great work and pics coming.  :icefish:

Might need a sherman tank to pull it.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Quantumn on Dec 07, 2012, 03:08 PM
Might need a sherman tank to pull it.

Surely you jest Rjuke70, you will be fine, where there is a will, there is a way. Incredible build for sure.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: OldSailor on Dec 07, 2012, 07:22 PM
Coming along great!! If it's not done for this season, what are you going to fish out of?? :icefish:
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Dec 08, 2012, 08:14 AM
Coming along great!! If it's not done for this season, what are you going to fish out of?? :icefish:

If and when I get ice, I will use my trusty Otter two man portable.  Hoping for some cold spells soon.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: OldSailor on Dec 08, 2012, 11:11 AM
If and when I get ice, I will use my trusty Otter two man portable.  Hoping for some cold spells soon.
Hope you get them!! Looks like a repeat of last year down my way!! :whistle:
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: blackmer826 on Dec 15, 2012, 03:22 PM
definite nice shanty. looks heavy to haul, have to have some perfect conditions. A+ build!!
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: mark4493 on Dec 16, 2012, 10:51 AM
awesome
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: P Meyette on Dec 16, 2012, 11:13 AM
nice finished product
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: ryanmolnar55 on Dec 20, 2012, 08:39 PM
Great Job! How about some interior Pic's.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Dec 20, 2012, 11:31 PM
Great Job! How about some interior Pic's.

still trying to get the outside buttoned up, I ended up pulling one of the panels on the outside and redoing it.  I wanted to get the trim finished, but the snow hit.  I decided that when the ladder got slippery is was time to pack up the tools.  Probably won't get to the interior till spring.  I still have to figure out the wiring and where I want to put the switches and outlets.  So as it stands it is storage for the insulation and other supplies.  At this rate it may be done by next season.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: da man cave shack on Dec 21, 2012, 10:22 AM
It also works well if you get it out on the ice befor the interior is all done that way you can figure out how you like it set up and were the best placment will be for the swiches and outlets. and where the seats will work the best.  :)
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Dec 21, 2012, 11:24 AM
It also works well if you get it out on the ice befor the interior is all done that way you can figure out how you like it set up and were the best placment will be for the swiches and outlets. and where the seats will work the best.  :)

Seating, bunks, and kitchen area is all figured out.  The plan is to mock it up and use blue masking tape to mark the areas.  Just need to build up the funds again for the solar panels, wiring, outlets, switches, lighting and all the other fun stuff.  I don't want to get to far ahead of myself and start finishing the inside then have to pull things apart to run more wiring for the solar panels.  Never planned on having it finished for this season, that's part of the fun of the project.  Work on it when I have the time, and changes thing and add things as I go.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: OldSailor on Dec 21, 2012, 02:09 PM
Seating, bunks, and kitchen area is all figured out.  The plan is to mock it up and use blue masking tape to mark the areas.  Just need to build up the funds again for the solar panels, wiring, outlets, switches, lighting and all the other fun stuff.  I don't want to get to far ahead of myself and start finishing the inside then have to pull things apart to run more wiring for the solar panels.  Never planned on having it finished for this season, that's part of the fun of the project.  Work on it when I have the time, and changes thing and add things as I go.
I've been following your build from the beginning!! Take your time!! Do it right!! Just an update now and then is great!! Also let us know how you do out on the ice with your Otter!! Tight lines and Happy Holidays to all!!! :icefish:
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Dec 21, 2012, 06:11 PM
I've been following your build from the beginning!! Take your time!! Do it right!! Just an update now and then is great!! Also let us know how you do out on the ice with your Otter!! Tight lines and Happy Holidays to all!!! :icefish:

I'm in no hurry, I knew it would be a long 2 year project when I started.  It is very rarely that I get a second set of hands to help and when I do it's only for a couple hours here and there.  It all boils down to three factors: Time, Funds & Weather.  Trying to get those three factors to line up on any set of days off are hit or miss on most weeks.  It will be worth it when it's done, the only down fall is that I may have to move into it and live in it full time with the amount of money that's being dumped into it.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: prospector on Dec 22, 2012, 08:33 AM
Nice build! Good quality build. Hope it smells like fish soon! Thanks for taking the time to make one of the best threads ever to hit the shanty. :clap: :thumbsup: :bow:
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Dec 22, 2012, 04:07 PM
Nice build! Good quality build. Hope it smells like fish soon! Thanks for taking the time to make one of the best threads ever to hit the shanty. :clap: :thumbsup: :bow:

Thank you very much,  I have been keeping an eye on the number of view for my project, wow 15,852 or so.  I should have done a bloopers thread on what not to do and show all the problems and mishaps along the way  :o ;D
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: OldSailor on Jan 03, 2013, 05:59 PM
So you're done working on the shack until warm weather?? I'll miss your updates, but there's always ice fishing now!!! :icefish:
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jan 03, 2013, 07:21 PM
So you're done working on the shack until warm weather?? I'll miss your updates, but there's always ice fishing now!!! :icefish:

Everything is on hold till spring.  I will get the outside all trimmed up and start on the electrical and inside insulation.  I hoping to get on the ice next week.  :)
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: da man cave shack on Jan 03, 2013, 07:24 PM
Does this meen that your hopeing to have it on the ice next week or are you just hopeing to be on the ice next week?
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: OldSailor on Jan 04, 2013, 07:34 AM
I think he said at one time that he would be fishing out of the Otter this season. Or did I misread something??
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jan 04, 2013, 08:19 AM
Does this meen that your hopeing to have it on the ice next week or are you just hopeing to be on the ice next week?

No, I think it would take a lot more than 6 inches of ice for the beast.  It won't be out till next season, I don't even have the brake lights installed yet.  The plan is to dig out all the gear, gas up the sled and auger and pull out the trusty Otter.  I'm thinking maybe Devils Lake for trout or Castle Rock for crappies.  :)
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Jan 04, 2013, 08:30 AM
I just ordered three new Clam bait buckets.  Can't wait to try them out, seems like a neat design.  Spill proof and sealed and enclosed in a insulated cover with carry straps built in.  Hopefully no more spilled minnows in the jeep or otter sled.  May have too make a slight modification in them to get a air hose in to the top.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: matthewwood25 on Jan 29, 2013, 11:25 AM
nice looks good
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Riffle on Jan 29, 2013, 07:54 PM
I just went through this hole thread!

Man I would live in that palace year round!
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: da man cave shack on Apr 23, 2013, 01:19 PM
Have you started working on the shack again yet?
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Whopper Stopper on Apr 23, 2013, 03:51 PM
Have you started working on the shack again yet?

That's funny, I was just thinking about asking the same question.

              WS
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: fishfeind on Apr 23, 2013, 09:43 PM
what do you do for a day job build tanks? looks like its going good.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: BackCountry Kyle on Nov 12, 2013, 10:38 PM
"BUMP!" Any new news? Getting ready for some hard water was wondering how its going...
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: Lavman on Dec 03, 2013, 06:33 AM
HEY RJ! Any news on the build?  ;D
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Dec 12, 2013, 12:38 PM
Sorry guys, nothing new to report.  I have been so busy this last spring and summer with projects for other people that I didn't even touch my build.  I plan on hitting it hard this spring and getting it done for the next season. (I hope)  I will be starting a new job in the next week so I will have a 4 day week end off every other week end.  That should give me plenty of time to work on her.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: da man cave shack on Dec 12, 2013, 01:20 PM
NEXT SEASON? this one is just starting. Hope you can get it finished up and use it.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: rjluke70 on Dec 12, 2013, 02:51 PM
It's turning into a three year plan.  Looks like we are going to have great ice this year.
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: gooner on Dec 12, 2013, 03:09 PM
Cool build
Title: Re: New Ice Shack spring project
Post by: IceFishingNate on Jan 23, 2014, 07:05 PM
Really impressive build