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So you are making the claim that is was ethanol.....what was wrong any why do you think it was ethanol? I've ran ethanol 10% in all my stuff and have never had a problem. The only problem I have ever had with fuel was with premium fuel having a bunch of water in it, due to not selling since it was some much higher in cost.
I actually don't know if ethanol was the cause of my problems. What I do know is that I never new how to do a carb job. Now in the past few years I do them regularly. The problem is always after the engine, (usually smaller),sits over the winter. When I open up the carb, the bottom end is full of fuel that smells like varnish, with water in it. I used to burn regular fuel in everything, and never had a problem. Now regular fuel burns fine in everything I own, but after things sit, I do carb jobs. The only thing I know of that has changed is the addition of ethanol . This is by no means a scientific test,but I would be interested to know what else it could be
I'm not saying it isn't or is ethanol. It just seems everyone who has had a problem with fuel blames it on ethanol, and I never hear what the reasoning is. The only actual problem that I've really ever experienced with fuel was with premium from a gas station having water in it.
Agro, the problem is that Ethanol attracts water. That's why there was water in your higher octane fuel that had the ethanol in it. The water will get into the fuel system and cause oxidation in the tank and in the engine. If enough water gets into the fuel system the engine will run poorly as well. Another problem is that the ethanol will remove old gunk out of an older motor and clog up the fuel system. Another problem is that when water is left in the fuel for too long the gasoline itself will oxidize. That's where the varnish and gum comes from. This too will clog up the fuel system pretty quickly. There really is documented problems with ethanol in small engine fuel systems. With some maintenance they should be minimal but using ethanol free gasoline is better.
Most stations selling ethanol fuel have it in all three grades!! It will say it right on the pump. If the station you bought your gas that had water in it doesn't sell ethanol blended gas, then you just plain got gas with water in it! The in ground tank was low and the pump picked it up! It been a problem since before ethanol fuel!!
Agronomist could you be a farmer or ethanol producer? The facts are starting to come out on ethanol, such as there is little proof that there is any savings in pollutants one study says it takes a gallon of petrol to produce each gallon of ethanol, It plugs catalytic converters. It also drys out rubber and removes plasticizers from plastic. We have had problems with gasoline since they took lead out and started adding all kinds of chemicals like mt be.Having been a mechanic for more than 42 years I have seen the damage this garbage does to fuel systems and engines. Always follow the money and you will see why this is in our fuel, IE farm lobby buying their into our fuel instead of our food, taught the other countries how to raise their own grain now have to figure out somewhere to use it. We will get 15% jammed in our tanks because we use less fuel to day than before. Very few small enginescan use it without ill effects including outboards and motorcycles.
just one little disagreement. If you dump a bunch of ethanol in a river, the fish don't get drink. They die. It's not like they are hangin at the corner pub or something, they are breathing the stuff not drinking it. A spill like that doesn't have a zero or even near zero environmental impact. Just saying.Now, I have absolutely nothing against alternative fuels. I just won't bury my head in the sand and pretend there won't be problems along the way to a better fuel. Personally, I don't see ethanol fuels as a good choice though. It really doesn't do anything to solve the problem and only causes more problems.
Best fuel for the most mileage I found was E-30. Actually got better mileage then the regular non ethanol.
However, the world runs on the combustible engine & will need fuel for quite some time. While the ethanol market won't last forever, other markets will replace it.
Ethanol is an alcohol, if fish absorb it into the blood stream it could intoxicate them. By breathing it through gills in could get into the blood stream. The little impact that would be a possible for a fish kill would be from the concentration smothering fish, other then that the breakdown of the alcohol makes for a pretty non toxic fuel. A couple of ethanol plants even make liquor instead of fuel, that you might have drank yourself. Sounds like pretty toxic stuff.......I'm not in disagreement that other alternative fuels won't come along, and that there won't be problems. However, the world runs on the combustible engine & will need fuel for quite some time. While the ethanol market won't last forever, other markets will replace it.
There won't be any drunk fish. Any industrial made ethanol is "denatured" meaning it is not fit to consume. Thus no spirits/provisions alcohol taxes have been paid on it. So that could cause the fish toxicity, not sure. The Wiki definition is; "Denatured alcohol, also called methylated spirits or denatured rectified spirit, is ethanol that has additives to make it poisonous, bad tasting, foul smelling or nauseating, to discourage recreational consumption. In some cases it is also dyed"Regardless, I avoid it in my small engines. My perception is letting it sit around causes the problem. I think it would be fine if you were going to use all the fuel in a short time like we typically do our automobiles.
Yup just need to get rid of the mandates and subsidies and let ethanol support itself if its such a viable solution. I have never had any luck with ethanol in any of my small engines. I immediately notice my riding lawn mower runs terrible. Noticeable less power etc. with e10. Put any fuel with no ethanol it and it just purrs and runs fantastic.
to help sluggishly running motors run butter.