Mr Heater Fuel Keg 1lb Tanks

[DTro]

Some Menards have put these new tanks out on the shelf for sale so I picked one up to try.  I assumed my Flame King valve was going to work on these fuel kegs, but I was wrong.
You will need the Mr Heater valve to fill the Mr Heater tanks.
Valve $29.99
Tank $17.99

First video with an overview of the tank and comparison to Flame King and then a follow up using the correct valve.

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[Splattypus]

Thanks for the video!

Ive been looking at picking up some of the refillables, haven't pulled the trigger yet. I don't go through a ton of cans, don't use the heater much, but it's definitely more cost effective in the long run. Plus better for the environment, as you point out. Also, technically the disposables are supposed to be taken to hazardous waste facilities, which is pretty inconvenient for most people. So as I deplete my stock of the coleman ones, I'll probably pick up some refillables.

I presume the Mr Heater kegs are compatible with all products that take 1lb tanks(camp stoves, lanterns, torches, etc) , and not just Mr Heater products? It doesn't technically say on any of the product information anywhere

[hawg]

Best to be sure, Mr Heater has a habit of making their stuff compatible only with their stuff.

[Splattypus]

That's still where I would predominantly use it, so it's still worth having a few to me. That said I have some camping gear that I'd like to put to use that would be nice if they were universally compatible. Proprietary stuff is a pain, and I try to avoid it when at all possible

[sylvain guy]

Here is what confuses me about this. I have been using Flame King bottles for years on Mr. Heater and Coleman products, so the threads must match. So why would the threads for the keg not match? Also all the one time use 1lbers all match. By the way Menards has discontinued the Flame King 1lbers.

[hardwater diehard]

I am pretty invested in the Flame  King line up ..valve/stand and 5 canisters ... but the Fuel Kegs do intrigue me ...if I could use my FK refill adapter I could be tempted to purchase a canister or two . I would imagine that Flame King will be updating their canisters to follow suit with Mr Heater.

[esox_xtm]

That's still where I would predominantly use it, so it's still worth having a few to me. That said I have some camping gear that I'd like to put to use that would be nice if they were universally compatible. Proprietary stuff is a pain, and I try to avoid it when at all possible

Apple products. Any of 'em. 

[HWeber]

Looks too easy to open the valve. I have the kind of luck where I'd end up with propane spewing all over the place in my sled.

[Splattypus]

Looks too easy to open the valve. I have the kind of luck where I'd end up with propane spewing all over the place in my sled.

I may be mistaken, but I would presume that valve only dumps the tank if the primary pressure valve is depressed (ie, when connected)?

The ease at which I could accidentally break that off is a little concerning though. But then again, I can accidentally break anything

[RickWakeman]

Anywhere to buy this that isn't Menards?

[filetandrelease]

 I’m set with my FK , but it’s nice to have options , nothing wrong with some competition

[defish]

The purposely designed incompatibility with Flame King sucks, but I'm sure someone will come up with a work-around. The little spring plunger that blocks the purge valve doesn't necessarily have a function other than to force people to buy their adapter?  Or a pin the right size that would depress that plunger as the FK fitting is tightened? Not saying that I recommend doing any of the above, but you know someone will!

[Splattypus]

Very probable flame king has a patent on their adapter and rank, forcing a different design.

Of course it doesn't look like too sophisticated a design, I've seen people on ice shanty build far more complex stuff themselves in their garage. Just don't know if you could build/modify an adapter yourself as cheaply as a larger company can mass produce one

[hardwater diehard]

DTro...some questions will the Mr Heater Refill valve work on the Flame King canisters ...and have you tried the Mr Heater stand ..is it functional . Thinking about how you have to depress the valve via the Mr Heater refill valve seems to be a safety feature ...no accidental discharges of propane should the release pin gets broken/dislodged ...which is a possibility as it kinda hangs out there and that split ring style pull tab is just waiting to ge hung up on something .

RickWakeman  My understanding is after January they will be in the usual retail outlets every where.

[RickWakeman]

DTro...some questions will the Mr Heater Refill valve work on the Flame King canisters ...and have you tried the Mr Heater stand ..is it functional . Thinking about how you have to depress the valve via the Mr Heater refill valve seems to be a safety feature ...no accidental discharges of propane should the release pin gets broken/dislodged ...which is a possibility as it kinda hangs out there and that split ring style pull tab is just waiting to ge hung up on something .

RickWakeman  My understanding is after January they will be in the usual retail outlets every where.

Good to know, thanks. I'm not anti Menards or anything, just don't have one nearby.

[DTro]

Here is what confuses me about this. I have been using Flame King bottles for years on Mr. Heater and Coleman products, so the threads must match. So why would the threads for the keg not match? Also all the one time use 1lbers all match. By the way Menards has discontinued the Flame King 1lbers.

The threads match fine.  If you watch the second video I explain exactly why they aren't compatible with valve system.   They both will however work will all propane burning devices (those threads are pretty much universal)

[hardwater diehard]

The threads match fine.  If you watch the second video I explain exactly why they aren't compatible with valve system.   They both will however work will all propane burning devices (those threads are pretty much universal)

Thanks ...is the Mr Heater stand functional in any way ? It looks kinda cheesy .

[defish]

The Mr. Heater management no doubt thinks that they are geniuses for making these tanks compatible ONLY with their refill valve to sell more refill kits, but doing so cuts both ways. I would have bought some of their tanks locally if they were compatible with other fill valves, but ordered a couple more Flame King tanks today instead.

[ice dawg]

My thoughts are, if you are using FK tanks, keep using them. If looking to start refilling tanks, you now have a choice. Eventually it may come down to which is easiest to find in your area . Here Runnings has FK tanks and refill kits and Menards carries Fuel Kegs. Six months from now that could change.

[hardwater diehard]

My thoughts are, if you are using FK tanks, keep using them. If looking to start refilling tanks, you now have a choice. Eventually it may come down to which is easiest to find in your area . Here Runnings has FK tanks and refill kits and Menards carries Fuel Kegs. Six months from now that could change.

I agree ..but that lil allen wrench ...seems to just walk away ...down to one from 5 . .. I more then likely squirreled them in my secret never to be found safe hiding place ...with my duncan yo yo and some silly putty .

[filetandrelease]

 I’m curious if the Mr heater fill nozzle would work on FK as it has a brass nipple that might fit the FK

[ice dawg]

I agree ..but that lil allen wrench ...seems to just walk away ...down to one from 5 . .. I more then likely squirreled them in my secret never to be found safe hiding place ...with my duncan yo yo and some silly putty .

I have a very similar safe hiding place. I wish I could remember where it is. 

[hardwater diehard]

I’m curious if the Mr heater fill nozzle would work on FK as it has a brass nipple that might fit the FK

That metal stem on the MH valve...looks to be quite long ..the notch on the FK canisters if I recall is not deep at all . I have filled the FK canisters with an actual MH valve ...the old style w/o any problem..the new valve looks to present some problems with all canisters ie the green bombs . DTro may be able to clear the air on this though... as he has both .

[filetandrelease]

 Thanks HWD , maybe he will clear that up , I’ve had no issues with the FK

[DTro]

Here's another update.  I did a quick comparison burn with 3 tanks.

This was the first time I actually used the Fuel Keg in my heater and I really wasn't happy with how much it leaked while I was screwing it in. 

[fisherbob]

Here is what confuses me about this. I have been using Flame King bottles for years on Mr. Heater and Coleman products, so the threads must match. So why would the threads for the keg not match? Also all the one time use 1lbers all match. By the way Menards has discontinued the Flame King 1lbers.

Looks like they have millions of the Coleman units in stores

[kasilofchrisn]

I agree ..but that lil allen wrench ...seems to just walk away ...down to one from 5 . .. I more then likely squirreled them in my secret never to be found safe hiding place ...with my duncan yo yo and some silly putty .

I purchased an Allen wrench with a screwdriver type handle.
I keep it in the drawer of my tool box with the other screwdrivers.
One could easily paint the handle or use colored tape making it more visible I suppose.
Anyway the new wrench is easier to keep track of and easier to use.
Just a thought.

[4Buck]

I purchased an Allen wrench with a screwdriver type handle.
I keep it in the drawer of my tool box with the other screwdrivers.
One could easily paint the handle or use colored tape making it more visible I suppose.
Anyway the new wrench is easier to keep track of and easier to use.
Just a thought.

Did you buy this on-line by chance?

[RStock521]

I agree ..but that lil allen wrench ...seems to just walk away ...down to one from 5 . .. I more then likely squirreled them in my secret never to be found safe hiding place ...with my duncan yo yo and some silly putty .

I use one of those little rubber twist gear tie's to keep my allen wrench secured to the adapter.  Works pretty well.  One of these:  https://www.amazon.com/Nite-Ize-Original-Reusable-Rubber/dp/B004MMEHKQ/ref=sr_1_7?crid=W2IPIB8G39C8&keywords=gear%2Btie&qid=1704288324&sprefix=gear%2Bti%2Caps%2C275&sr=8-7&th=1

[beerduck]

i tied and taped my allen wrench right to the flame king filler with spiderwire