nope, i wasnt complaining, more just stating a fact, also not picking on anyone specifically. regardless, credit owed to dipsy for his jigging tips to haightdaddy. i threw on a brand new chartruse bucktail, topped w smelt and sent it dwn the hole. lurked my way onto IS on my phone cuz i remembered reading the "new gear" thread and tried to watch the vid but wasnt supported for mobile phone. so looked back at thread and read bounce,bounce,bouce then dead stick 3-4min. WHAT THE HELL AM I GONNA DO FOR 3-4MIN i thought to myself. wel after my last bounce, BAM hooked up. the second one hit on the hole next to it 30min later after the first bounce as soon as i dropped it down. aside from that, the only thing ive ever jugged up was a white n yellow perch last year.