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IceShanty Main => General Ice Fishing Chit Chat => Topic started by: diabetik11 on Nov 17, 2009, 09:23 PM
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what do you guys think of people that bring there dogs out fishing with them. i don't care if they do, cause i do, but when i do the people around me seem mad. whats your guys opinion?
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As long as the dog is comfortable, trained, and not peeing on my bucket... Its fine by me!
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one more thing i did have somebodys dog come up and lift is leg and pee right in to my otter sled with my stuff in it, stupid dog, but all i could do is laugh ;D
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I don't mind the dogs one bit, as long as they aren't trained to steal my panfish :'(
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one more thing i did have somebodys dog come up and lift is leg and pee right in to my otter sled with my stuff in it, stupid dog, but all i could do is laugh ;D
Should have returned the favor.
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Dogs are a pain!!!!! Especially the one on the right by the chair!!!! ;D
Everyone has a dog up here!!! Fishing at my friends place there can be a gang of 15 or more dogs running around the place. Good thing is they usually just play together and leave us alone because it would really suck to have 15 dogs running through my setup!!! :woot:
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one more thing i did have somebodys dog come up and lift is leg and pee right in to my otter sled with my stuff in it, stupid dog, but all i could do is laugh ;D
Had the same thing happen to me last season. I was angry for 2 seconds, then i went back to jigging.
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I generally don't mind dogs, I'm a dogless dog man. Just be carfull on slick ice. A friends dog splayed out on the ice and tore tendons in her crotch.
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Hmmm, lets see... dogs, sometimes slippery conditions, hooks, other people, kids...sure sounds like a perfect enviroment for an animal to run loose in. And I'm talking about pets, not working/hunting dogs.
They have leash laws for a reason and most of them are to protect dogs from their owners IMO.
Not a dog hater, but hate to see people subject their animals to conditions and enviroments that they are not use to or animals that are not socialized.
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Mine stay home. One is old and has had knee surgeries, the other is way out of control. She has too much energy and would be bothering me and others on the ice. Both of them are house/hunting dogs, and are not accustomed to being out in the winter conditions. My wife is always after me to take them to get them out of the house and burn some energy. I prefer just to play fetch with them before and after I go fishing, and leave them at home.
Bottom line I don't take my bothersome dogs, so I expect the same. If your dog is good on the ice fine, but it better not be bothering me or I will say something.
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I am a dog owner
Ice conditions, wind and temperatures would be the big factor's, I would hate to see any animal on clear ice without snow covering, they would end up with pulled mussels and tendants, slush on the ice there feet would freeze up....sometimes I think its better to leave them home no matter how hard it is for you thinking they would like to be out running around and getting exercise.
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I am a dog owner
Ice conditions, wind and temperatures would be the big factor's, I would hate to see any animal on clear ice without snow covering, they would end up with pulled mussels and tendants, slush on the ice there feet would freeze up....sometimes I think its better to leave them home no matter how hard it is for you thinking they would like to be out running around and getting exercise.
I`m with Thumbar on this, I have always had dawgs ,parents bred boxers, I own Rotties.
Wouldn`t take em out on the ice. Big dawgs aren`t meant to be on the ice. Chance for hip problems. Dawgs pads are not meant to be on snow long,term,never mind ice. You walk around without yer Stabilicers or creepers,etc. on glare ice. You know how yer muscles take a beating. Dawgs look to thier owners to take care of them,because they aren`t smart enuff. Plus my dawgs are always overfriendly and would visit everyone. Some people freak when a 120# Rott pads over to em demanding to be patted. My dawgs are walked twice a day ,everyday , with few exceptions , so they have always had much needed exercise. Also no one needs a steaming Rottie mountain plopped next to thier set.
BTW Drifter, nice looking animal there, looks intent on that fishing hole.
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some days their great, other days their relieving themselves on your equipment, setting your flags off, trying to steal your food when you go out to your flag and so on. recently i had to put wilbur (yellow lab) down, he was 21 and life was getting really hard for him, wish he was around so he could bug me on the ice this season.
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I think as long as they are well behaved no problem, but it is a dangerous place for them to be. We had a friend stop out to see us and had his Boxer, a well behaved friendly dog, and she got to running around and a couple kids were throwing her snowballs then she ran into an auger that someone didn't put the blade cover back on. She almost lost a toe 8 stitches and a $500 emergency vet clinic visit on a sunday. Luckily a buddie tore his under shirt and I had electrical tape because we couldn't get the bleeding to stop. A friends German Shorthair had problems with pulled muscles and torn tendons on glare ice before also. I have these guys, 9 month old Gordon Setters and I personally don't think I would expose them to the possability of being hurt like that. My wife and I don't have kids so they are like our children and I hate to see them hurt, just like kids you feel helpless when something is wrong and unlike kids they can't tell you whats wrong to help them.
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I have no problems with a dog on the ice. I like to have a distraction once in while.
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I love dogs and don't mind them at all as long as they are not barking for hours on end or biting people.
If someone has to warn you "careful, my dog bites" then it shouldn't be out on the ice were there are a bunch of people.
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the only dogs i want to see on the ice are coyotes, i fish a huge lake with no houses and nothing but miles of woods around it, so me and a few other guys take rifles and hunt the yotes that run the shore lines, as for a dog wizzing on my stuff, i think it would turn out bad. :tipup:
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I think it is great to get the dogs outside and running arround to burn up some energy..they need that. But I don't want to have someones dog bothering us and knocking over gear or taking a leake on any of my stuff.
Bottom line...If they are going to run lose and bother other fishermen then leave them at home.
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I love dogs and have 2 Labs myself.I don't mind dogs being the ice as long as they stay with thier owners and are'nt running all over the place messing with other fishermen and pissing on tip ups and such...
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If I bring my dog it will be on a weekday with snow on the ice. He has a lot of energy and I don't need the aggravation of chasing him down while he tries to play with other people.
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I`m with Thumbar on this, I have always had dawgs ,parents bred boxers, I own Rotties.
Wouldn`t take em out on the ice. Big dawgs aren`t meant to be on the ice. Chance for hip problems. Dawgs pads are not meant to be on snow long,term,never mind ice. You walk around without yer Stabilicers or creepers,etc. on glare ice. You know how yer muscles take a beating. Dawgs look to thier owners to take care of them,because they aren`t smart enuff. Plus my dawgs are always overfriendly and would visit everyone. Some people freak when a 120# Rott pads over to em demanding to be patted. My dawgs are walked twice a day ,everyday , with few exceptions , so they have always had much needed exercise. Also no one needs a steaming Rottie mountain plopped next to thier set.
BTW Drifter, nice looking animal there, looks intent on that fishing hole.
I sure hope ya don't mind an old Ice Dawg on the ice. I promise not to pee in your minnow bucket or on your tipups. I leave the ice pooch home because there are too many bad things that can happen on ice.
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They're fine as long as you don't force them on the people around you. I had a buddy who had his pole in a rod holder by a hole and some dude's dog ran by, tipped the rod over, got caught in the line and ended up getting snagged and then of course the rod was chasing after the dog. the owner had a hell of a time catching the thing. it was both sad for the dog and really made us angry. I have 2 dogs of my own but in respect for other anglers I make sure I'm fishing all by myself if they're with.
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If I bring my dog it will be on a weekday with snow on the ice. He has a lot of energy and I don't need the aggravation of chasing him down while he tries to play with other people.
when im fishing, I dont want to see your dog. Not everyone thinks that your dog is cool. Thats why they buy their own. If you take your dog........keep it with you, I dont care what kind it is either
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One place i fish the owners have mastiffs and my yellow lab loves to play with them .If the conditions are goood i will take her ... she is a very well trained hunting dog and i put her in the bottom of my pro on my jacket if she gets a little high strung ... kind of a doggy time out.I have seen some obnoxious dogs on the ice ... but come on i have seen way more obnoxious people on the ice .Good thing most places have alot of room to fish ... because to be honest if some arrogant ass b***hed about having to share the ice with a dog .. they had just better keep on trucking .. because I am pretty sure i would have a bigger problem with him.. then he with my dog.
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i bring mine everytime......however, they are well trained and stick near base camp......its cool when there are other dogs to play with....they will even sit in the back on my polaris ATP (has a dump bed) when we are heading out on the ice or down a trail that leads us to the lake.....i could see how they could be a pain, but overall my experiences have been good......here's a look
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a day with friends......
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chillin.....
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I love dogs too however I agree with Das and Thumber. I had a golden and I believe that's what ruined her. Hours on the ice. Ended up with a bad hip. Had a 200 lbs St. Bernard as well. Great dog to check first ice with. Throw a cookie out there and If she goes through, I'd go home.....kidding of course. Still ended up having problems with her hips too.
There are obviously things you can do to help protect dogs on the ice, booties, packs, blankets, warm bob house etc....but I'd rather use all these things for keeping the wife warm instead....then go home to the dog.
JIGGIN.
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I dont care how well trained your dog is, keep it away just because you like dogs doesn't mean everybody shares your passion. I could care less if their on the ice as long as you clean up after them, just keep your dog away from people......simple enough? Ive had a few bad experiences with dogs and ice fishing
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i would take my dog out more often if i could be sure she wouldn't run, we're her fourth owners, so she has loyalty issues. :-\
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Couldn't agree with you more, H20.shaver. Dogs on the ice are a pain in the butt.
Mine's always riding my sled around, making a lot of noise, scaring the fish away.
And when he finally tires of that, he has to go raise his leg on every trap. He has
no manners either. He poops on the ICE! Can you believe it! He barks at the DNR
officers, even after they have removed their helmets--something about folks
wearing helmets that really tee's him off. He goes around to all the other shacks, don't matter if it's two miles away, he'll go sniffing around, looking for some other dogs to play with, or looking for bits of food that were thrown out with the dishwater, or find frozen bait to chew, or fish guts to roll in. No sir, that dog is trouble on the ice. Just when I catch a fish, he always has to stick his nose in and check it out, as if he's the one who gets to decide whether to let it go. Then if it's cold or windy, he hides all day inside the shack, curled up next to the heater! Lazy, no good, stinking dog! Worse than some of the kids folks bring with them.
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Maine= obviously this is a soft spot for you. Im not alone in the fact that I don't want a "loose" dog running up on me while Im fishing, or watching the dog take a dump on the lake. Im not saying that your dog runs wild as you have suggested. All Im saying is that some people come to the lake and just turn their dogs loose like its doggy park, well its not. Some people just cant believe that other people dont want their dogs by them. Why is this hard to understand? why does it hurt peoples feelings?
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Not hard to understand at all H2.OShaver. Just having fun with you.
I feel the same way about some of the kids folks bring with them.
They just turn them loose and they ride their ATVs and snowsleds
in and around the tip-ups/shacks, pulling each other around in the jet sleds, etc.
Their folks come to socialize, and party, and the kids come to ride on the ice.
I go to the lake to enjoy being out there and hopefully catch a few fish.
Some people just don't like dogs. Some folks just want peace and quiet,
and maybe to catch a fish or two. Thank goodness it's a large lake.
In all honesty, I leave my retard at home when I want to fish, or if it's too cold,
or if it's glare ice. He is worse than a little kid (that will never grow up).
I guess I am feeling ornery and just trying to stir things up. We need to start the
no 10" auger debate, or the no peeing on the ice, or the gas vs electric auger debate,
or .....
MD
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I'm with you h2. If your dog comes to visit me while I'm in the middle of reting ods are he'll step in my open jig box. The next thing you know he'll have a foot full of trebles and jigs and I'm at fault for being there trying to retie a line. I have a dog myself bu would never let him loose to bother other people or mess around there equipment. Leave em at home and let em wander the yard.
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Not hard to understand at all H2.OShaver. Just having fun with you.
I feel the same way about some of the kids folks bring with them.
They just turn them loose and they ride their ATVs and snowsleds
in and around the tip-ups/shacks, pulling each other around in the jet sleds, etc.
Their folks come to socialize, and party, and the kids come to ride on the ice.
I go to the lake to enjoy being out there and hopefully catch a few fish.
Some people just don't like dogs. Some folks just want peace and quiet,
and maybe to catch a fish or two. Thank goodness it's a large lake.
In all honesty, I leave my retard at home when I want to fish, or if it's too cold,
or if it's glare ice. He is worse than a little kid (that will never grow up).
I guess I am feeling ornery and just trying to stir things up. We need to start the
no 10" auger debate, or the no peeing on the ice, or the gas vs electric auger debate,
or .....
MD
LMAO! If my kids even get near anoter fisherman without permision the might loose there birthday. I teach respect!
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Maine= I like it ;D
BTW, Ive got the best dog (German Sheppard) in the world
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What about cat's guys? I've seriously thought about bringing one of my girlfriends cats out with me but I'd feel horrible if something were to happen to one of them.
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What about cat's guys? I've seriously thought about bringing one of my girlfriends cats out with me but I'd feel horrible if something were to happen to one of them.
Like getting eaten by a herd of rampaging dogs!!!!! ;D
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Like getting eaten by a herd of rampaging dogs!!!!! ;D
Yes that would definitely suck. But a bald eagle coming in from 2 miles up... ;)
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two's a crowd for me!!!!!!!!!!!!(i have two !!!)
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Two years ago some folks (and I use this term loosely) took their less than 3 month old puppy on the lake. Well, several hours later there was a frantic search, and it was never found. Tracks were found leading up to a hole. Folks theorized about an eagle. The owner's kids were crying, the Mrs. was crying. The Mr. was very red faced. It was not a happy situation. I and others were mad as hell at those folks. It wasn't the dog's fault the owner's were too stupid think twice, or more responsible to not let that puppy off lease or even let it out of their truck. Needless to say, my wife and I were saddened, and angry, but it's a small community, and we have to watch what we say and how we act.
So, I must agree with the the general thread, dogs really don't belong out on the ice, at least not my shorthaired wiener. That poor little black lab puppy didn't belong on the ice.
He deserved better.
Have you read the thread about the black lab diving down a hole, swimming after fish? Eventually it too met it's end doing this activity. I don't know if this is urban legend, or not but my first reaction is, why did the owner allow this activity to take place? Did he dive in afterward when his dog didn't surface?
We need 12" augers!
MD
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What about cat's guys? I've seriously thought about bringing one of my girlfriends cats out with me but I'd feel horrible if something were to happen to one of them.
By all means bring the cats.......they make great bait.
I'd rather see families with kids and dogs than the drunk adults I run into all too often.
RG
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I say bring the pups! BUT if they're unruly, keep them under wraps. My boy used to steal others fish and bring them back to me... BAD DOG! Now he's too old to mess around with other folks fish.
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Maine= I like it ;D
BTW, Ive got the best dog (German Sheppard) in the world
Yea...I love those Shepard's myself. I grew up with one, I was 8 yrs. old when we got her and was 20 yrs. old when we had to have her put down ( She had hip displaisia and got so she couldn't even stand anymore)...had to carry her out to go potty and carry her back inside. Kept her food and water right close by her on her remaining months. The most loyal and loving dog I ever knew....Wish she was still here.....KELLY...I miss you still.... :(...WK
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I think if people just used there better judgement this wouldn't be an issue. Don't bring them out on glare ice. Don't bring them out if they don't mind you. Don't bring them out if they are a threat to others. Be aware of your equipment and what may hurt your pup. I think some of the users actually learned a lil something reading this thread, I know I did. The problem is. It seems like some using there better judgement is easier said than done.
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In the photos shown in this thread, I see people who deserve to own dogs. I see the blanket, the booties, the vest, etc................... .These are the people who take care of their dogs. Too bad everyone who takes a dog out doesn't do this. It's nice to see tho, these type of owners aren't the problem.
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i bring my beagle sometimes she minds well so im ok with her going the only problem i have is when she gets cold and she kicks me out of my shanty so she can lay down(http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv295/jasoncombs61/005.jpg)
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wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i didn't think the pic was going to be that big ???
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I'll say this about "DOGS ON ICE" they are fun to watch and a great companion
but when fishing in shallow water (5'-10') they do have an effect on fishing
(and not catching) I've seen it first hand numerous times, the fish will be bitting
and as soon as MUTTLY comes tromping around the holes, the fish get lock-jawl
as with anytime there becomes to much activity "TOP SIDE" (including us).
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Combsey,
My last and best family pet/hunting dog was a beagle. They're just the best dogs there are. Who can resist that face. Miss Beasley was a good hunter as well. Birds and bunnies.
Man that pic makes me miss her :-\
RG
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i bring my beagle sometimes she minds well so im ok with her going the only problem i have is when she gets cold and she kicks me out of my shanty so she can lay down(http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv295/jasoncombs61/005.jpg)
Those beagles should be chasing bunnies!!! Good looking hounds you got there!! I am a beagler also..John
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Those beagles should be chasing bunnies!!! Good looking hounds you got there!! I am a beagler also..John
Combsey, Those beauty's could fish with me anyday.......... Zoo.
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dogs are a lot like people some people belong on the ice some dont.
same with dogs. i think its up to the owners to know thier pets.
i love dogs. a well behaved and enthusiastic dog is welcome near me.
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dog owner..choc lab and golden..
I have no problems with dogs on ice!!
i have problems with OWNERS who want to parade thier dog all around and when you hollar "hey, you wanna call muttley back" and they respond " she's okay ...real friendly"...
Obviously it is not okay and i am NOT real friendly!! If you do take your dogs please keep in mind there are some of us that dont want them by us! i have found muttly running around with my tip ups, tipping minnow buckets and had food swiped from my sled...NICE
Yet they yell at me as i drill poochie with a football to get my tip up back and to keep the pup from munching a treble.
well mannered ..no prob!
but if you can't keep him away from me i'll make sure its an unpleasant visit so he won't want to return. no harm ..just real stinky!!
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If I wanted canine companionship on the ice, I would bring my own dog. I guess what I mean is that it is just fine as long as the dog stays with his owner and doesn't bother anyone else.
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I agree with most everything said. I do have a dog but she is leashed always. I love other dogs too but I'll come to you to see your dog if I want to.
For those that are adamant about "no dogs" I put this to you.
I would hazard a guess that you've had more bad experiences on the ice with humans than you ever have or will with dogs.
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I have a dog and love dogs but I guess I have to agree with a lot other people here. If a dog is well kept and under control I don't mind. Raising his leg and peeing on my tipups or Fishtrap. Jumping up and scratching my truck is over the edge and has all happened. And I'm sorry that's where I draw the line. Fin
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one more thing i did have somebodys dog come up and lift is leg and pee right in to my otter sled with my stuff in it, stupid dog, but all i could do is laugh ;D
I had the same thing to me except he got it right in an open bag of chips :sick:
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I have no problem with people that bring their dog with them as long as they stay away from my area. It does get me a bit fired up when one comes over and lifts his leg on my Fish Trap or jig pole or auger or such..
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i dont mind em, most people that have them are way more concerned about there dogs bothering me than i am.
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dog owner..choc lab and golden..
I have no problems with dogs on ice!!
i have problems with OWNERS who want to parade thier dog all around and when you hollar "hey, you wanna call muttley back" and they respond " she's okay ...real friendly"...
Obviously it is not okay and i am NOT real friendly!! If you do take your dogs please keep in mind there are some of us that dont want them by us! i have found muttly running around with my tip ups, tipping minnow buckets and had food swiped from my sled...NICE
Yet they yell at me as i drill poochie with a football to get my tip up back and to keep the pup from munching a treble.
well mannered ..no prob!
but if you can't keep him away from me i'll make sure its an unpleasant visit so he won't want to return. no harm ..just real stinky!!
Well said, I 2nd...and if someones dog came over to me and decided to do his duty in,on or around my stuff it would be more than a snowball upside his head 'cause to me it's not cute and I'd bet I was'nt his first victim...keep them with you. Not to mention I had a terrifying and costly encounter with a dog a number of years back , so to me,none of them are nice and friendly
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i bring my beagle sometimes she minds well so im ok with her going the only problem i have is when she gets cold and she kicks me out of my shanty so she can lay down
Those are some fine looking dogs you have there. This is my Beagle/Chihuahua mix... yea... I know, its a weird combination.
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You can blame my wife for the cloths. ::)
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If I saw that on the ice I would probably crap myself laughing. Don't feel bad my mom dresses her cats up for holiday pictures and the look on thier faces say "I am not happy about this!". I keep telling her it's animal cruelty to do that.
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Yep. Bring yer b***h and leave the hound-dogs (males) home. They don`t have to lift their leg and they ain`t about markin` their scent either. They keep out of your gear better too.
I have a bunch of stuff in my yard and I`m a tenant so I can`t say much. Another tenant has a tiny, male dog. That SOB marks everything in sight that`s a few inches off the ground! %$#!: :%$#!: :%$#!:
I would stuff that mutt down a 3 inch hole if it came anywhere near me on the ice! SS&S!!!! ;D I think it wizzed on my leg while I was talking to the dude!!! All he did was laugh! :roflmao:
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i brought my akita for 10 years and he never went more than 50 feet from me because he was trained . if your dog dont mind- you leave it home. i had a dog run at least 300 yards to come see my dog who stood by my side off leash because i took time with him, while the other owner had to run the full distance to retrive his dog .so i see both sides of the coin. he was one of my best fishing partners he weighed 150lbs and rode in my canoe without any problems so a dog can be fun as long as the owner has a brain in their head.
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I think dogs are great on the ice....if they're cooked right. ;D
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Man's best friend. Why wouldent you bring them. They can fetch beer from the sled ;D.
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i have an alaskan malamute and she loves the cold. these dogs were meant to live in the harsh conditions and i think that it would be a real treat for her to get out and pull my shanty onto the ice for me. she is still a pup so i have a year to wait but i think it will be alot of fun. when i was younger we had a malamute that would pull us around on a sled for hours, he just loved to do that.
i have already looked into a harness, and i am thinking of using ice anchors to tie her up while on the ice.
has anyone else used their dog this way?
you do have to be careful when you encounter a dog for the first time. you can never tell whats going to happen, i dont let my dogs run around unless there isn't anyone else around.
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... i think that it would be a real treat for her to get out and pull my shanty onto the ice for me. she is still a pup so i have a year to wait but i think it will be alot of fun. when i was younger we had a malamute that would pull us around on a sled for hours, he just loved to do that.
i have already looked into a harness, and i am thinking of using ice anchors to tie her up while on the ice.
has anyone else used their dog this way?
Glad I found this thread and TeamTwoStick, I was also thinking your question.
1. Do I bring my well trained, well socialized, well behaved 50 lb wedge-head beast out ice fishing?
2. Do I harness her to pull the sled?
She is 1/2 Pittbull and a very good puller (1/2 Boxer, so sometimes pretty silly). She does not have any fat, and has very thin fur. She does like the cold, however, when too cold, she won't go outside. She does have a jacket she likes to wear and have not purchased booties yet for her.
I was going to buy a harness and have her pull one of the kids around in the snow.
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Space Savings Mode - curl up in tiny ball and sleep in the cat bed
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Has anyone taught thier dogs tricks for ice fishing?
- I was thinking I could teach her to come get me or bark when tip-up flag pop's up. After all, she is smart enough to play Red Light / Green Light w/ the kids and get the newspaper on command, then she should be capable of this.
Just not sure how others would like to hear a barking dog.
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I have taken my GSP out there in the past, and he gets too figgidty to bring along. He is trained,but when I am runnin' and gunnin' looking for fish, it would be a hassle to drag him all over. He is 11 years old, so I don't know if he would like the long time exposure to the ice/cold. My Fishtrap is not really made for a dog. Dog had a good time dinging around the ice, when I used to take him.