IceShanty.com's Ice Fishing Community

IceShanty Main => General Ice Fishing Chit Chat => Topic started by: WhiteMTfish on Nov 12, 2016, 08:06 PM

Title: Does anyone use Ethanol Shield 2-cycle oil
Post by: WhiteMTfish on Nov 12, 2016, 08:06 PM
I can't find any ethanol free gas in town, it all has 10% ethanol. Has anyone tried any of this ethanol shield oil with their augers? It says it protects your engine from ethanol.
Title: Re: Does anyone use Ethanol Shield 2-cycle oil
Post by: Curley on Nov 12, 2016, 08:10 PM
Sorry, never heard of it.
Title: Re: Does anyone use Ethanol Shield 2-cycle oil
Post by: Idahogator on Nov 12, 2016, 08:28 PM
Maybe one of these towns is nearby.        ;)2

 

    City    Brand    Octane    Name    Phone    Street Address    Last Updated          
   Bradford    UNBRANDED    94    Lumber Barn    603-938-5161    2460 Hwy 114    2016-09-07    Google Earth    Google Map    details
   Colebrook    VALERO    91    Lemieux Garage    603-237-4377    161 Main St    2015-12-02    Google Earth    Google Map    details
   Freedom    UNBRANDED    91    Freedom Discount Beverages    603-539-2908    117 Porter Rd    2016-08-23    Google Earth    Google Map    details
   Gorham    UNBRANDED    91    P&L       453 Main St    2016-10-11    Google Earth    Google Map    details
   Groveton    VALERO    91    Groveton Valero    603-636-6186    3 Brooklyn St    2015-09-28    Google Earth    Google Map    details
   Hudson    HAFFNERS    110    Haffners    603-595-2410    215 Lowell Rd    2016-08-02    Google Earth    Google Map    details
   Keene    VP RACING    100 103 112    American Trikes & Motorsports    603-354-7740    223 Winchester St    2015-01-29    Google Earth    Google Map    details
   Keene    VP RACING    94    Tuckers Power Equipment    603-352-2245    61 Pinehurst Ave    2014-11-26    Google Earth    Google Map    details
   Lancaster    VALERO    91    Tj's Truckstop    603-788-4600    100 Bridge St    2016-07-09    Google Earth    Google Map    details
   Lyme    UNBRANDED    91    Lyme Country Store    603-795-2213    13 Main St    2016-06-28    Google Earth    Google Map    details
   Milford    VP RACING    94    Chappell Tractor    800-698-2640    454 Hwy 13 S    2015-10-27    Google Earth    Google Map    details
   Milford    UNBRANDED    114    Souhegan Valley Motorsports    603-673-6007    459 South St    2014-07-26    Google Earth    Google Map    details
   No Hampton    UNBRANDED    91 100    Hampton Airfield    603-964-6749    9 Lafayette Rd    2016-10-05    Google Earth    Google Map    details
   Ossipee    UNBRANDED    91    Ossipee Lake Country Store    603-539-2634    1600 Hwy 16    2016-10-13    Google Earth    Google Map    details
   Pittsburg    UNBRANDED    91    B&W Dorman Quick Stop    603-538-9500    2658 N Main St    2015-12-02    Google Earth    Google Map    details
   Wentworth    UNBRANDED    91    Shawnees General Store    603-764-5553    732 Rte 25    2016-09-16    Google Earth    Google Map    details
   Woodsville    UNBRANDED    91    D&P Cnv Store    603-747-2673    61 Smith St    2015-11-03    Google Earth    Google Map    details
Title: Re: Does anyone use Ethanol Shield 2-cycle oil
Post by: esox_xtm on Nov 12, 2016, 08:41 PM
I can't find any ethanol free gas in town, it all has 10% ethanol. Has anyone tried any of this ethanol shield oil with their augers? It says it protects your engine from ethanol.

The  only ethanol free stuff easily available is premium around us. Not always the best choice for every motor. Don't really need to "protect your motor" from ethanol, just your hoses and the fuel itself are more susceptible to "damage". I've used a number of products over the years with relatively equal results. Sea-Foam is awesome, Stabil has worked well and I've used the marine version in my outboards for years, Startron is also a good product.

My bottom line on ethanol, It is NOT evil. Use your fuel regularly, use an additive (really, most work just fine), I always leave my fuel systems full at the end of the season (as opposed to draining them) so seals and diaphragms don't dry out,  I'll usually drain before the new season (into the lawn tractor that burns everything) and start with fresh in augers, weedeaters, chainsaws etc.

There will be differing opinions here (lots of 'em). That's fine. I've got at least 30 years of burning ethanol in virtually everything I own with nary an issue. Ask yourself this: If ethanol ruins your engines, why can you drive a vehicle out to well past 200K on it? Hmmmmm. A little common sense goes a long way. That and understanding what ethanol does and (maybe more importantly) doesn't do.

So, to your question. your product is probably OK but certainly not "magic". For me, Sea-Foam is as close to magic as it gets. That and maybe Marvel......  @)
Title: Re: Does anyone use Ethanol Shield 2-cycle oil
Post by: hardwater diehard on Nov 12, 2016, 08:48 PM
esox_xtm  agree on the SeaFoam as a additive

http://blog.iceforce.com/news/strikemaster-pre-season-pro-tip-dont-add-extra-oil-to-your-fuel/
 
 from above link

In most areas in the Ice Belt, winter-grade gasoline is available November 1 through April 1. Premium fuel will ensure peak performance for your auger.
Title: Re: Does anyone use Ethanol Shield 2-cycle oil
Post by: El Matador on Nov 12, 2016, 09:34 PM
I've never had a problem running ethanol in any of my small engines.  The biggest reason I know of to avoid ethanol is the condensation that occurs when you have a vented fuel system like in a boat.  The ethanol evaporates easily and cools the air inside the gas tank causing moisture to condense.  You'd be amazed at how much water can accumulate in there...literally quarts.  Anything with a sealed gas tank won't have that problem though.
Title: Re: Does anyone use Ethanol Shield 2-cycle oil
Post by: Agronomist_at_IA on Nov 12, 2016, 09:48 PM
I can't find any ethanol free gas in town, it all has 10% ethanol. Has anyone tried any of this ethanol shield oil with their augers? It says it protects your engine from ethanol.

You mean this?

(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q1/agronomist_at_IA/A1D609E5-0BB8-4143-80E9-FB2B88F7887B_zpsjuz3c9ll.jpg)

I use it in my 2000 watt champion inverter generator since it sits for months at a time sometimes. Seems to be fine.

I either add some of this or seafoam into fuel if it is going to sit for long periods. If it is not going to sit a long time I just run 10% plain with no addatives....no problems.
Title: Re: Does anyone use Ethanol Shield 2-cycle oil
Post by: Agronomist_at_IA on Nov 12, 2016, 09:57 PM
esox_xtm  agree on the SeaFoam as a additive

http://blog.iceforce.com/news/strikemaster-pre-season-pro-tip-dont-add-extra-oil-to-your-fuel/
 
 from above link

In most areas in the Ice Belt, winter-grade gasoline is available November 1 through April 1. Premium fuel will ensure peak performance for your auger.

I found Premium in our area to be about the worst fuel possible. It is so much more expensive that nobody buys it in our area.

When I bought it and put it in my pickup and boat it was a nightmare. The fuel sat so long in the tanks at the gas station that it had water and other issues with it. Maybe in other areas premium moves faster, but I found the 10% ethanol works fine. If your going to have it sitting in a tank for long periods just add the stability products like seafoam or ethanol shield then you know what you have and it prya doesn't cost anymore then premium.
Title: Re: Does anyone use Ethanol Shield 2-cycle oil
Post by: tbulhead on Nov 13, 2016, 07:07 AM
I know it is probably overpriced, but don't they sell ethanol free fuel in small amounts at Home Depot for small 2 cycle motors?  If I recall correctly it was somewhere over by the grass trimmers.
Title: Re: Does anyone use Ethanol Shield 2-cycle oil
Post by: iowapackfan on Nov 13, 2016, 07:15 AM
 ;D ;D ditto with the seafoam. use it in everything I own. @) @)
Title: Re: Does anyone use Ethanol Shield 2-cycle oil
Post by: ICE WANDERER on Nov 13, 2016, 07:32 AM


            I've used all of the above mentioned  products, and I had problems with all my small engines. since I started using
           ethanol free gas, about 3.5 years ago, I haven't had an issue with any of my small engines. The ethanol gas eats up seals
           and wears on the jets in the carburetor!   :%$#!:

           IW
Title: Re: Does anyone use Ethanol Shield 2-cycle oil
Post by: Wavfire06 on Nov 13, 2016, 07:47 AM
Switch to trufuel or a premix longer shelf life and better for your auger
Title: Re: Does anyone use Ethanol Shield 2-cycle oil
Post by: OldSailor on Nov 13, 2016, 07:49 AM
I know it is probably overpriced, but don't they sell ethanol free fuel in small amounts at Home Depot for small 2 cycle motors?  If I recall correctly it was somewhere over by the grass trimmers.
It's called Trufuel and you can get it for both 2 and 4 cycle engines. The 2 cycle comes in several mix ratios!! It's sold in many places. The auto parts store I work for carries it! It's good stuff!!!
Title: Re: Does anyone use Ethanol Shield 2-cycle oil
Post by: WhiteMTfish on Nov 13, 2016, 08:02 AM
This is the stuff I found.

(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr143/mini-yak_photo/Mobile%20Uploads/20161113_085736-1_zpst391lzji.jpg) (http://s478.photobucket.com/user/mini-yak_photo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20161113_085736-1_zpst391lzji.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Does anyone use Ethanol Shield 2-cycle oil
Post by: missoulafish on Nov 13, 2016, 11:36 AM
What Bulhead and Oldsailor said....
Title: Re: Does anyone use Ethanol Shield 2-cycle oil
Post by: illinoisicer on Nov 13, 2016, 01:17 PM
Switch to trufuel or a premix longer shelf life and better for your auger



Yup, a bit speedy but have yet to have a problem w/crappy fuel. Also convenient to transport.

http://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/trufuel-50%3A1-engineered-fuel-and-oil-mix-32-oz?cm_mmc%3DSEM-_-Google-_-DynamicAdGroups-_-AllSiteTSCFreeShipStore&gclid=COuywta4ptACFQMpaQodRdsERQ
Title: Re: Does anyone use Ethanol Shield 2-cycle oil
Post by: Wavfire06 on Nov 13, 2016, 01:38 PM
It is kinda speedy but totally worth it
Title: Re: Does anyone use Ethanol Shield 2-cycle oil
Post by: OldSailor on Nov 13, 2016, 03:10 PM
Speedy?? I believe you guys meant SPENDY!! And it is, but you don't use a ton of it, and it's an investment in the life of your auger!!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Does anyone use Ethanol Shield 2-cycle oil
Post by: Curley on Nov 13, 2016, 04:10 PM
Agreed. I love the pre mix. I don't use a lot of it, so it is always fresh. Had to many issues with ethanol gas going bad before I could use it all. Non E gas I could mix a gallon and have it all season. no issues.Just keep a quart can in the sled. Less smoke and no issues.



Title: Re: Does anyone use Ethanol Shield 2-cycle oil
Post by: Idahogator on Nov 13, 2016, 04:28 PM
To answer the topic question ~ No.

Here is     WHY . (http://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=334392.msg3543618#msg3543618)
Title: Re: Does anyone use Ethanol Shield 2-cycle oil
Post by: Royalwapiti on Nov 13, 2016, 09:07 PM
Ethanol is nothing but trouble for me.   I never use it, will pay more for premium if needed.   I usually buy the mid-grade no-lead.  All my mowers (3), chainsaws and small engines use no-lead.  Ethanol messes with hoses, diaphrams in pumps, some gasket material and other components.  Don't use it unless you drain your system after each use.
Title: Re: Does anyone use Ethanol Shield 2-cycle oil
Post by: nd.walleye on Nov 14, 2016, 09:28 AM
I agree with the TruFuel comments - I've been using it now for 2 years on all my 2 cycle stuff. Not only do I not have to worry about stabilizers and all that crap but my auger (and other equipment) love it - run better than they have in the past.
Title: Re: Does anyone use Ethanol Shield 2-cycle oil
Post by: illinoisicer on Nov 15, 2016, 07:21 AM
Agreed. I love the pre mix. I don't use a lot of it, so it is always fresh. Had to many issues with ethanol gas going bad before I could use it all. Non E gas I could mix a gallon and have it all season. no issues.Just keep a quart can in the sled. Less smoke and no issues.


Ya stupid spell check. I use a can just before I shut everything before seasons end and make sure you wet store everything. I head out and crank my mower, tiller, sled etc... a cpl times during storage to make sure bowls stay wet.  I used to use stabil but had to keep tearing down my carbs and clean them because the bowl would dry out and leaves a red flake in the bowl.

We started using trufuel in all our Fire equipment at work for pumps/saws because we were having same issues.