well, i was about to walk out the door, and realized I had no live spikes or waxies and had not yet bought any soft plastics for the year. So I had to run out and get some of those and it was 15 min till dark b4 i got to the pond.......good news, 6 inches of ice.....good news had 5 definate hits in 15 min. Landed 2 both dinks...am going to go tomorrow...hopefully will have pics...thanks boys